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Karachi is Asia's largest slum, not Dharavi: UNDP​

MUMBAI: Dharavi, which is in the heart of India's financial capital Mumbai, is not the largest slum in Asia as many believe, according to a report by the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP). "Dharavi is not Asia's largest slum, but Karachi's Orangi Township has surpassed Dharavi," the Human Development Report for Mumbai, compiled with the help of UNDP and released by the Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation (BMC), said. Mexico City's Neza-Chalco-Itza barrio has four times as many people as Dharavi, it said. Dharavi, a congested slum area that houses nearly 57,000 families, is being used as workplaces adds to several risks including fire and health, the report said.

Dharavi, often associated with crime, ***** and environmental degradation mainly due to congestion, bad constructions, unauthorised trades and overpopulation, covers parts of suburban Sion, Bandra, Kurla and Kalina and is spread across 175 hectares. It has grabbed global attention after Danny Boyle's film, 'Slumdog Millionaire.' "Chemicals including acid are known to flow through Dharavi's open drains because of tanning activity that flourishes there," the report said.

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not convincing please specify how u define slums?
 
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"Dharavi is not Asia's largest slum, but Karachi's Orangi Township has surpassed Dharavi,"

But Times of India being the rag it is used the flwg headline:

Karachi is Asia's largest slum

I always wonder what kind of psychosis would afflict editors a paper that calls itself "Times of India" that it must compare whose slums are ......
 
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The 'Indians', their Think-Tanks, and their media are desperate to remove their great shame of housing the World's largest slum in Mumbai. This is why they are engaging in such propaganda-media to remove the stigma that burns them and the World views them in.


Truth is, Mumbai still houses the world's largest, most ******, most poorest, most population-dense, and most sickening slum in the World.



You may fabricate as much propaganda and false reports as you like, but you are doing a tremendous 'disservice' to your slum-population by ignoring them and diverting your attention for malevolent reasons onto other nation's 'slums'...
 
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The 'Indians', their Think-Tanks, and their media are desperate to remove their great shame of housing the World's largest slum in Mumbai. This is why they are engaging in such propaganda-media to remove the stigma that burns them and the World views them in.


Truth is, Mumbai still houses the world's largest, most ******, most poorest, most population-dense, and most sickening slum in the World.



You may fabricate as much propaganda and false reports as you like, but you are doing a tremendous 'disservice' to your slum-population by ignoring them and diverting your attention for malevolent reasons onto other nation's 'slums'...

do you even know GoI has already sanctioned Rs.10000 crore for "Dharavi Redevelopment Project"? and the work has started, more then 45+ towers have already come up; and people have shifted... project is set to complete by 2012.
 
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Its very important information. You see, India-haters usually use Dharavi to beat us over the head. This should set the record straight I think.

Great - Indian character and self worth reduced to this -- tsk, tsk. tsk
 
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The Orangi Welfare Project (Trust)


Orangi Township, on the outskirts of Pakistan's metropolis, Karachi, is the largest informal settlement in all of Asia, with a population close to 1.8 million.

To most people in Karachi, Orangi conjures up images of economic deprivation and lawlessness. In reality, Orangi is home to some of the most successful grassroots development schemes in Pakistan, from the world renowned Orangi Pilot Project to dozens of local initiatives. Boasting a literacy rate of nearly 80%, Orangi is one of the most vibrant and socially active communities in South Asia.

Tucked away within Orangi's teeming agglomeration of bazaars and labyrinthine alleys, is one of the great success stories not only in Pakistan but in the entire developing world: The Orangi Welfare Project (Trust) of Alinagar.

Alinagar, a community located in Orangi’s Sector 11 ½, was, from its inception in the 70s to well into the 90’s, a hotbed of bitter ethnic strife. There was no electricity, no sanitation, no drinkable water, no registered jobs, and an ineffective law enforcement agency. In this state of desperation, the community had become fragmented and all sense of communal responsibility had faded away.

Then, in 1996, the residents of Alinagar decided to take matters into their own hands and initiated the Orangi Welfare Project. Within three years, the people had transformed the district into an exemplary, democratic Model Town, or "Misali Ilaqa," as it is now known. With minimal reliance on outside sources, they laid out their own electricity lines, sanitary facilities, and water systems, and each citizen became a taxpaying member of the community. Schools were set up and led by ambitious young women, including the Orangi Pilot Grammar School where more than 250 students are currently enrolled. Women’s participation in the workforce has become almost universal. A strong sense of community and public responsibility has developed, as both women and men democratically participate in the decision making process. Further, the people of Alinagar have been able to involve government authorities and utility companies in their work, sharing the responsibilities and dividing the labor. The Model Town has expanded exponentially, as neighboring communities, impressed by this success, have joined in. Now a population of 12,000 residents of Sector 11 ½ are benefiting from the OWP.

"Changes don’t occur overnight. They are the result of years of directed struggle, failure upon failure, and the true activist must not be deterred by any failures." Mohammad Allauddin, director OWP

Philosophy

The OWP’s success is based in its philosophy, adopted from the late Dr. Akhtar Hamid Khan’s Orangi Pilot Project, and can be summed up in three words: Apni madad aap, or self help and self reliance. In seeking solutions to problems afflicting the area, citizens must collectively decide which steps to take. Citizens must have a sense of community, and stay clear of political affiliations.

The real work of the Orangi Welfare Project began with an auspicious event which is still recounted by the Alinagaris in passionate tones. One evening a groups of activists, armed with brooms, began to sweep the street. Upon witnessing such respectable members of the community performing a menial task, neighbors immediately offered the services of their children. The activists refused and instructed their neighbors to wield their own brooms and sweep alongside of them. Within an hour, the entire community had taken to the streets, and like an army they covered the entire sector. “The most important thing is to lead by example, and realize that work can never be demeaning.”

In conditions of extreme desperation and poverty, in a community which has never been able to assert itself and demand its basic rights, often people give up hope entirely. They begin to believe that progress and change is impossible. This invariably leads to a fatalistic and stagnant mindset contrary to progress. “They just need to be shown that if you try hard enough, things can and will happen.” The electricity program, which will be discussed later, was initiated by one OWP activist, who promised the community that he could set up a much needed street light in a period of one week. Naturally, he wasn’t taken seriously and often jeered at, but throughout that week he appealed to the government utility and brought together workmen in the community. Lo and behold, he was successful. Upon witnessing this single success, the entire community rallied behind the OWP in working towards sector wide electricity connections. This single event triggered a community wide chain reaction.

The Organization

The Orangi Welfare Project is basically a people’s NGO which allows residents to aid each other in improving the society. The most important forums are the democratic town-wide meetings, in which all families, both male and female members, participate. Directors are elected, and lane managers are appointed by residents in every main road and smaller streets to manage problems and needs in their particular areas. Any active individuals are encouraged to participate in the decision making process. The lane managers meet regularly to discuss issues and progress.

In 1998 the OWP established a Working Committee which would meet on a bi-monthly basis to discuss and review developments in OWP projects, ranging from waste management to the building of gas pipelines. Committee members also deal with educational issues and serve as the liaisons between the community and government organizations such as the KESC (Karachi Electric Supply Corporation), with whom OWP has collaborated in many of its projects. Every member is given an identification card, which he or she must carry when performing regular inspections of Alinagar. During the meetings, income and expenditure statements are reviewed and the budget for the next period is outlined. All households in Alinagar, which number well above 200, pay a membership fee of Rs. 15 (about 30 US cents) a month allocated for public works. Savings are placed in an emergency revolving fund in order to assist any community members who have suffered exceptional hardships. Respected elders in the community are expected to perform regular rounds of the Model Town, ensuring that there is no garbage or other waste on the streets or outside houses. On a weekly basis Working Committee members and other citizens collectively sweep the neighborhood to set an example for the rest of the community.

Much of OWP’s success rests on the fact that it works within existing societal bonds. Neighbors persuade each other to work towards the betterment of the community, to follow basic guidelines of environmental protection, and to promote education. Community activities, such as celebrations and holidays, double up as forums to increase public awareness and activism.

http://www.geocities.com/orangiwelfare/
 
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I have been searching through the official UNDP website, browsed through their publications, news reports, speeches, search category, human development report, poverty reduction, and more. There has been absolutely no word mentioned about this recent Indian propaganda report which claims the UNDP officially reported that Dharavi, Mumbai, India is no longer the World's largest slum.


Failure to provide us the official UNDP publication that made this 'alleged report', should result in the closing of this thread...


"Time to put up or shut up."
 
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What ??Are there no slums in Pakistan or what ?Why do you have to act childlike?India and Pakistan are third world countries.Get a grip.India is doing a lot better than Pakistan in economy.It is just that the trickle down effect is taking some time considering the large population India has.

The 'puerile attitude' is that of the Times of India, which earlier reported the statement of PM Gillani referring to the information provided to him by Sri Lanka's president, about a possible LTTE link to the cricket team attack, as some sort of 'u-turn'. And now referred to Orangi Township as Karachi, even while making the distinction between Mumbai and Dharavi.
 
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Why do you have to act childlike?



Should you be directing this comment to the Times of India?? Do Indians really feel so small that so called news papers have to resort to this??
 
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Karachi is Asia's largest slum, not Dharavi: UNDP​


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Also to suggest "Karachi" but not specifically the "Orangi town" which is the impoverish area of Karachi is "Asian's largest slum" but not "Dharavi" is very misleading and quite ridiculous.


The Indian article makes a distinction between "Dharvari" and Mumbai, but makes no distinction between "Orangi town" and Karachi, it simply states "Karachi" as Asia's largest slum, which is absolutely wrong, bad journalism, and low quality.
 
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i think one cant compare orangi to mumbai slum orangi is a complete town with population of 1.8 million which i dnt think is correct because karachi's population is 16 million and it have 18 towns which are approximatly equally districbuted most populated is gulshan town with population of more den 2 million and i have seen orangi it is not a slum area at all many middle class ppls live there
 
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