Six countries support India in rejecting OHCHR report on Kashmir

[Hamza913]

Repacecommaswith dot and you can visit the links.

Anyways this Dawn report to firms India still terminate vast territory captured in Turtuk:


As per Simla agreement only territory captured along international border was to be returned but not ones along LoC, which is why India retained turtuk and Pakistan chamber.

Lol.
Your denial won't change the fact Naxim zehra book got critically acclaimed.

Again, that link doesn't prove Hindustan kept all that land taken. I recognise some of it was kept, but the fact is after Simla most of it was returned, same goes for any land Pakistan took.

If you want to believe Kargil was in Pakistani hands on the 14th of August 1947, go ahead, meanwhile, we will just laugh at you.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

@Indus Priest King has a great thread on the subject.



The link doesn't work, and I want proof Hindustan retained all that land post 1971.

Again, I don't care what some journalist says especially when that's just not true. You're probably just misinterpreting what she said.

Endorsement means very little, everyone has an agenda.



Then why did he try to create a demographic shift by cleansing Kashmir of Muslims?

No, because even if we wanted to take all of it, we still took 40% of it, so we still gained land where as you lost it. You got 40% less than you would have had we not invaded Kashmir.

We did get small parts of Kutch.

Anyway, as you said, this is irrelevant. Let's stick to the subject at hand.

I still don't get what you are saying. India had no control over what the Maharaj did. The fact is when he acceded to India after running out of options, that 40% was under Pak control, and it was never controlled by the Republic of India. Pakistan attempted to capture the entirety of Kashmir that it claimed, but failed, so it lost 60%. As for Kutch, we control the majority of it. We also control Hyderabad, Janagadh, and other states initially claimed by Pakistan.
As for the thread's topic, I have already made my point several times. The fact that you turned this into a Kargil and 1971 thread shows you have no argument against the initial topic of the thread.

 

[Hamza913]

I still don't get what you are saying.

You can't be that stupid.

The fact that you turned this into a Kargil and 1971 thread

You brought the topics up, not me.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

@Cobra Arbok I thought you were done posting here.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

As for whether Kargil was part of India on August 15 47, the City was, but large areas of the district was not. It was not until 1971 that India captured large parts of modern day Kargil district, and the boundary between Ladakh and GB was finalized only after Kargil. Part of the reason Kargil happened was India captured more land in 1971 than it knew what to do with, and had failed to effectively secure the peaks it gained through Shimla. A mistake it definitely will not make again.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

As for whether Kargil was part of India on August 15 47, the City was, but large areas of the district was not. It was not until 1971 that India captured large parts of modern day Kargil district, and the boundary between Ladakh and GB was finalized only after Kargil. Part of the reason Kargil happened was India captured more land in 1971 than it knew what to do with, and had failed to effectively secure the peaks it gained through Shimla. A mistake it definitely will not make again.

Pakistan outsmarted India in 1999 in the same Kargil. Read @Indus Priest King thread on the subject and the hills captured. He goes into detail on it. He is actually one of the few posters here who is from that specific area.

I am originally from the South Kashmir/NE Punjab border area which used to be Muslim majority before your army ethnically cleansed the area. Believe me, no love has been lost for us. We owe you several more defeats than 1947, 1965, 1971, 1999.

Keep clamoring about your hollow victories. We have been gaining land in Kashmir in every conflict. Unlike India, Pakistan has support of the locals of the region who understand typography better than anyone.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

Six countries have joined India in rejecting the report prepared by the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR).


They are: Two from Asia (Bhutan, Afghanistan), one from Africa (Mauritius), one from Eurasia (Belarus), and two from Latin America (Cuba, Venezuela).

i am surprise how come these countries are not involve alont with others yet indian can make a huge list.
Antigua and Barbuda
Belize
Burkina Faso
Central African Republic
Djibouti
Gabon
Honduras
chad
Liechtenstein
Macedonia
Madagascar
Green Land << "most important for indian cause"
Mexico

but india will remain occupied force in Kashmir.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Pakistan outsmarted India in 1999 in the same Kargil. Read @Indus Priest King thread on the subject and the hills captured. He goes into detail on it. He is actually one of the few posters here who is from that specific area.

I am originally from the South Kashmir/NE Punjab border area which used to be Muslim majority before your army ethnically cleansed the area. Believe me, no love has been lost for us. We owe you several more defeats than 1947, 1965, 1971, 1999.

Keep clamoring about your hollow victories. We have been gaining land in Kashmir in every conflict. Unlike India, Pakistan has support of the locals of the region who understand typography better than anyone.

You can believe all you want you won those wars, it doesn't change the ground realities that India still controls most of Kashmir, and India still has the most strategic peaks in Kargil. As has already been mentioned in this thread, India captured more unoccupied hills than Pakistan.

 

[Hamza913]

As per Simla agreement only areas captured along international birder to be returned and not ones captured along loc which is why India and Pak never returned turtuk or chhamb.

In 1947 we had only kargil lower lands, we captured kargil heights in 1971.

You can keep saying the same nonsense, it doesn't make your claims any more credible.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

You can keep saying the same nonsense, it doesn't make your claims any more credible.

The fact remains none of the post occupied by India or Pakistan in Kargil were controlled by either of them. All those peaks were unoccupied. The war itself was about Tiger Hill, which is under Indian control. Since India has Tiger Hill, it controls the Siachen Highway, which means its positions in Sachen are safe.

 

[Areesh]

Not even China / KSA / Turkey supported PAK
Count is zero for PAK

There support is more practical than mere words.

Your own government has whined dozens of times because of that. Go check it.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Pakistan outsmarted India in 1999 in the same Kargil. Read @Indus Priest King thread on the subject and the hills captured. He goes into detail on it. He is actually one of the few posters here who is from that specific area.

I am originally from the South Kashmir/NE Punjab border area which used to be Muslim majority before your army ethnically cleansed the area. Believe me, no love has been lost for us. We owe you several more defeats than 1947, 1965, 1971, 1999.

Keep clamoring about your hollow victories. We have been gaining land in Kashmir in every conflict. Unlike India, Pakistan has support of the locals of the region who understand typography better than anyone.

Which District?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

You can believe all you want you won those wars, it doesn't change the ground realities that India still controls most of Kashmir, and India still has the most strategic peaks in Kargil. As has already been mentioned in this thread, India captured more unoccupied hills than Pakistan.

Opinions only.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

There support is more practical than mere words.

Your own government has whined dozens of times because of that. Go check it.

As I have already said, China has clarified its investment in GB is not an endorsement of Pakistan's stance.

 

[Areesh]

As I have already said, China has clarified its investment in GB is not an endorsement of Pakistan's stance.

But it is a clear negation of India's stance and all of its claims on GB

Also as per Indians PLA is also helping PA along LOC in building defense structure. That is far more practical help than anything you can get from any country in the world.