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When Lee Kuan Yew was still alive and ruling his city-state with an iron fist, the late statesman was not shy about courting controversy. One of his most amusing beliefs was in eugenics, a much-tainted ideology associated with racism. He strongly believed in the idea that intelligence is inherited and loved the book The Bell Curve.

In his 1983 National Day Speech, he made a highly controversial remark about the stupidity of graduate men who wanted to marry women with less education. His speech sparked the so-called Great Marriage debate and his ruling party’s poll dropped 12 per cent in the next election.

Lee’s belief had coloured Singapore’s population policy for years. His government introduced the “stop at two” policy in the 1960s to curb the country’s booming population growth. Singapore’s fertility rate dropped from three in 1970 to 1.61 in 1985, below the replacement level.

Lee was alarmed at the rapidly declining fertility rate -- especially at a time when the country was getting ever more prosperous. He reversed the government’s population policy and started to encourage women to bear more children. He was also forced to drop a contentious policy that favoured university graduate mothers.





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Lee confessed in his memoir “From Third World to First” that his government overlooked the fact that more educated women tend to have fewer children. “Western writers on family planning had not drawn attention to this already familiar though less stark outcome in their own mature countries because it was not politically correct to do so,” he wrote.

Though the complete reversal in policy led to a temporary surge in births, the fertility rate increased to 1.92 in 1988. However, the fertility rate has declined steadily since then; and is now hovering at around 1.1 and 1.3. The city-state has to rely on immigration to power its economy.

The Singaporean experience is a stark warning for China’s misguided population policy. Singapore’s population control policy lasted less than two decades while China’s draconian one child policy has been in place for 44 years. It is much easier for Singapore, a small city-state to reverse its course than for China, a nation of 1.3 billion.

Despite Singapore’s complete policy U-turn on population control and the introduction of a host of generous incentives to encourage women to have more babies, the country is in the midst of a demographic crisis.

According to the country’s Population White Paper, it needs to take in between 15,000 and 25,000 new citizens every year plus another 30,000 new permanent residents to keep the population from shrinking. This policy is possible given Singapore’s size. No conceivable migration program can help China reverse its looming population crisis.

China has one of worst fertility rates amongst emerging economies. At 1.4 babies per every women of child-bearing age, China will have the world’s largest pensioner population and lesser and lesser productive workers to support them.

Modelling shows that if the current birth trend continues. China’s population could shrink by as much as 29 per cent between 2030 and 2070 and the number of women of child-bearing age could be halved. If this prediction is accurate, China will have a demographic crisis worse than Russia, which is a basket case of declining demographic misfortune.

There is a real possibility that China will become old before it becomes a rich country. And yet, despite the looming demographic crisis, the country’s powerful vested interests are still debating whether it should completely abolish the one child policy. At the moment, adults who were once single children themselves are allowed to have a second child.

But guess what? China’s young people are reluctant to take up the new change in policy. The inertia has proven to be quite hard. One of China’s leading business people and population economist Liang Jianzhang has been waging a war of opinion against Beijing’s misguided policy.

Dr Liang is saying it is already too late for Beijing to change its policy. “Despite strong incentives from the Singaporean government to encourage more child births, its fertility rate stays flat. It is hard to imagine what kind of policy the Chinese government needs to introduce to encourage people to have more kids.”

“It is my prediction that China will need a much more generous incentive scheme than Singapore to encourage people to have more kids to stop the population decline, let alone increase the fertility rate,” he writes in an opinion piece on Caixin.

Chinese leaders have publicly professed their admiration for Lee and the Singaporean model he championed. They should now have the political courage to admit that they have completely botched the country’s population policy. The early success of the one child policy might have helped to address the problem of employment but its continuation despite a dramatic decline in fertility rates is suicidal.

By 2040, the world’s second largest population after India will be 400 million Chinese pensioners. Now that’s a scary thought. Beijing needs to address this problem right here and right now before it goes down the path of Japan. And no immigration program will ever be large enough to solve China’s problem, it has to take this problem on its own.


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@Yizhi @AndrewJin @Shotgunner51 @Hu Songshan

I agree almost completely with this article.

It is relatively easy to stop people from having kids than it is to force people to have kids.
Whatever incentives you may give to people who are educated, it will be very hard because:
1. People are already rich, the absolute amount of incentives will have to be high
2. When people are rich, the marginal utility for incentives is less, since people want higher quality of life
3. A child is a very significant investment not only of money, but most of all, of time. A woman who is ambitious and educated will find it really hard to have 2 kids, because it will take almost a year of her life just to give birth.

Also, if some members think that Robotics is gonna help--

Well, Japan has been relying on that hope for close to 2 decades now.

After all the progress of robotics, it is still now enough to replace humans in any way.
Why?

1. Robots are no way near equal humans in capability. And it will take another 2 centuries at the minimum to even imagine them coming close.
2. Humans are also the fundamental units of both consumption and production. Just see the power that China gets by leveraging its huge market.
3. In the current globalized world, the equillibrium state is every human producing almost equal. Hence, any human producing less than its capability will find it easy to grow. Capital in today's world is very mobile, and flows in seconds from one place to other.
 
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When Lee Kuan Yew was still alive and ruling his city-state with an iron fist, the late statesman was not shy about courting controversy. One of his most amusing beliefs was in eugenics, a much-tainted ideology associated with racism. He strongly believed in the idea that intelligence is inherited and loved the book The Bell Curve.
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The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life is a 1994 book by American psychologist Richard J. Herrnstein (who died before the book was released) and American political scientist Charles Murray. Herrnstein and Murray's central argument is that human intelligence is substantially influenced by both inherited and environmental factors and is a better predictor of many personal dynamics, including financial income, job performance, birth out of wedlock, and involvement in crime than are an individual's parental socioeconomic status, or education level. They also argue that those with high intelligence, the "cognitive elite", are becoming separated from those of average and below-average intelligence.

The book was controversial, especially where the authors wrote about racial differences in intelligence and discussed the implications of those differences. The authors were reported throughout the popular press as arguing that these IQ differences are genetic. They wrote in chapter 13: "It seems highly likely to us that both genes and the environment have something to do with racial differences." The introduction to the chapter more cautiously states, "The debate about whether and how much genes and environment have to do with ethnic differences remains unresolved."

The book's title comes from the bell-shaped normal distribution of intelligence quotient (IQ) scores in a population.

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Also, what China desperately needs is to populate its western provinces. Xinjiang, Tibet, Qinghai comprise almost half of China with less than 5% of the population. While no doubt, some areas there are inhospitable, effort can be done to make some hospitable.

What is the problem with 300 million more people, but all of who reside in the above 3 provinces?
 
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The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life is a 1994 book by American psychologist Richard J. Herrnstein (who died before the book was released) and American political scientist Charles Murray. Herrnstein and Murray's central argument is that human intelligence is substantially influenced by both inherited and environmental factors and is a better predictor of many personal dynamics, including financial income, job performance, birth out of wedlock, and involvement in crime than are an individual's parental socioeconomic status, or education level. They also argue that those with high intelligence, the "cognitive elite", are becoming separated from those of average and below-average intelligence.

The book was controversial, especially where the authors wrote about racial differences in intelligence and discussed the implications of those differences. The authors were reported throughout the popular press as arguing that these IQ differences are genetic. They wrote in chapter 13: "It seems highly likely to us that both genes and the environment have something to do with racial differences." The introduction to the chapter more cautiously states, "The debate about whether and how much genes and environment have to do with ethnic differences remains unresolved."

The book's title comes from the bell-shaped normal distribution of intelligence quotient (IQ) scores in a population.

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This distribution is of United States. What is most important to note here is that these samples are biased.

Blacks who ended up in US were slaves. Helpless, brought against their force, and at the bottom of pyramid.

Asians were usually immigrants. Especially the ones in the 20th century. They were already at the top of pyramid. And hence, there is a selection bias.

Do you think that whites are more intelligent than blacks?
 
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The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life is a 1994 book by American psychologist Richard J. Herrnstein (who died before the book was released) and American political scientist Charles Murray. Herrnstein and Murray's central argument is that human intelligence is substantially influenced by both inherited and environmental factors and is a better predictor of many personal dynamics, including financial income, job performance, birth out of wedlock, and involvement in crime than are an individual's parental socioeconomic status, or education level. They also argue that those with high intelligence, the "cognitive elite", are becoming separated from those of average and below-average intelligence.

The book was controversial, especially where the authors wrote about racial differences in intelligence and discussed the implications of those differences. The authors were reported throughout the popular press as arguing that these IQ differences are genetic. They wrote in chapter 13: "It seems highly likely to us that both genes and the environment have something to do with racial differences." The introduction to the chapter more cautiously states, "The debate about whether and how much genes and environment have to do with ethnic differences remains unresolved."

The book's title comes from the bell-shaped normal distribution of intelligence quotient (IQ) scores in a population.

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It's not an coincidence that East Asian as a whole is quite successful or on the route to success. IQ is a fact, why do most people connect IQ with racism? No doubt this sample is biased to some extent, however, there are too many other scientific facts to support similar arguments. I won't feel offended when Africans say Chinese are bad at running or have low sport-IQ...

1.Genes.
No one change that until now. I believe in evolution.
2.Environmental factors.
They are changeable. Basically what China has done in the last three decades is to create a better stage for Chinese, providing education, sanitation, electricity, etc. The first generation who immigrated to US was mostly illiterate peasants, so was the first generation Chinese immigration in Southeast Asia. But just have a look at what their offspring has achieved and their success even caused some brutal anti-Chinese riots. @powastick

I'm now in a county of Anhui Province, Central China. What the locals have done is remarkable.
Can you believe these photos are about villages?
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Road lamp, not electricity shortage
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Village road connects villages and county town.
There is public bus(1-2yuan) to the county town, 15km away, 20minutes.
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Country road connects different groups of a village. (A village is comprised of several groups)
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Also, what China desperately needs is to populate its western provinces. Xinjiang, Tibet, Qinghai comprise almost half of China with less than 5% of the population. While no doubt, some areas there are inhospitable, effort can be done to make some hospitable.

What is the problem with 300 million more people, but all of who reside in the above 3 provinces?
Impossible. I've been to all these three provinces. Not some areas, it's most areas.
 
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There was a man-made mouse utopia called Universe 25. It started with 4 males and 4 females. The colony peaked at 2200 and from there declined to extinction. Once a tipping point was reached, the mice lost instinctual behaviors. Scientists extrapolate this model to humans on earth.

CABINET // The Behavioral Sink
 
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There was a man-made mouse utopia called Universe 25. It started with 4 males and 4 females. The colony peaked at 2200 and from there declined to extinction. Once a tipping point was reached, the mice lost instinctual behaviors. Scientists extrapolate this model to humans on earth.

CABINET // The Behavioral Sink
What's do you think the future of Malaysian Chinese?
 
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Singaporean facing extinction: PAP's genocide explain
How to wipe out a tribe


The honest Singapore has always been the backbone of our society. Despite this fact, our PAP government has been extremely effective and utterly relentless in destroying Singaporean. Year 2010 the TFR (total fertility rate) is another record low of 1.16 (each woman give birth to 1.16 baby). Lets pick 1000 people of equal proportion of men and women, and look at the math.

1st generation: 1000 people.
2nd generation: 580 people.
3rd generation: 336 people.
4th generation: 195 people.
5th generation: 113 people.

For every 1000 Singaporean, he will see just 113 great-great-grandson. Within a little more than a century, that 1000 Singaporean will only see their 5th generation reduced by an eye-popping 89%. PAP must have does Hitler proud.

Not true that every developed society will have low TFR
While its true that as a country prosper, fertility will drop, but experiences from other developed society has demonstrated that low fertility could be reversed. This includes countries like USA, New Zealand, Ireland, France, UK, Iceland...etc, which have fertility rate more or close to 2. In particular France and Iceland accomplish reasonable fertility rate through policies that providing adequate social service and support, as well as regulations to reduce social tensions.

How the genocide works
Our disappointing fertility rate has a lot to do with our stressful lifestyle, high indebtedness due to property and job insecurity. Instead, of improving the above social ills, PAP mass import foreigners, making the matter worse. Meanwhile PAP justify their immigration policies giving reasons that Singaporean are not producing. The relentless influx of foreigners acerbates the exact social ills that sterilize Singaporean.

And when Singapore's fertility rate drops further, PAP import even more foreigners. The vicious cycle goes on and on and it seems that PAP is targeting a fertility rate of zero for Singaporean. When Singaporean has zero baby, PAP can proudly give reasons why they need to import the whole world.

Singapore's demographic time bomb and hell in making

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The World Factbook

East Asian fertility abysmally low.

According to CIA factbook, Singapore latest fertility is 0.8 babies per woman.

East Asian landlordism is a big parasite. The East Asian landlord trick is to first own a lot of land, then make sure that land price rise faster than wages. The evil plan make sure that all gains from labor and workers are transferred to the landlord, even though landlord sit at home do nothing.

There is no reason why Japan must have high land price while similarly developed place like Germany have low property price.

老毛杀地主, 够狠。 现在地主卷土重来, 老百姓被榨得精光。



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Singaporean facing extinction: PAP's genocide explain
How to wipe out a tribe


The honest Singapore has always been the backbone of our society. Despite this fact, our PAP government has been extremely effective and utterly relentless in destroying Singaporean. Year 2010 the TFR (total fertility rate) is another record low of 1.16 (each woman give birth to 1.16 baby). Lets pick 1000 people of equal proportion of men and women, and look at the math.

1st generation: 1000 people.
2nd generation: 580 people.
3rd generation: 336 people.
4th generation: 195 people.
5th generation: 113 people.

For every 1000 Singaporean, he will see just 113 great-great-grandson. Within a little more than a century, that 1000 Singaporean will only see their 5th generation reduced by an eye-popping 89%. PAP must have does Hitler proud.

Not true that every developed society will have low TFR
While its true that as a country prosper, fertility will drop, but experiences from other developed society has demonstrated that low fertility could be reversed. This includes countries like USA, New Zealand, Ireland, France, UK, Iceland...etc, which have fertility rate more or close to 2. In particular France and Iceland accomplish reasonable fertility rate through policies that providing adequate social service and support, as well as regulations to reduce social tensions.

How the genocide works
Our disappointing fertility rate has a lot to do with our stressful lifestyle, high indebtedness due to property and job insecurity. Instead, of improving the above social ills, PAP mass import foreigners, making the matter worse. Meanwhile PAP justify their immigration policies giving reasons that Singaporean are not producing. The relentless influx of foreigners acerbates the exact social ills that sterilize Singaporean.

And when Singapore's fertility rate drops further, PAP import even more foreigners. The vicious cycle goes on and on and it seems that PAP is targeting a fertility rate of zero for Singaporean. When Singaporean has zero baby, PAP can proudly give reasons why they need to import the whole world.

Singapore's demographic time bomb and hell in making

U54.png


The World Factbook

East Asian fertility abysmally low.

According to CIA factbook, Singapore latest fertility is 0.8 babies per woman.

East Asian landlordism is a big parasite. The East Asian landlord trick is to first own a lot of land, then make sure that land price rise faster than wages. The evil plan make sure that all gains from labor and workers are transferred to the landlord, even though landlord sit at home do nothing.

There is no reason why Japan must have high land price while similarly developed place like Germany have low property price.

老毛杀地主, 够狠。 现在地主卷土重来, 老百姓被榨得精光。



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Then allow Chinese immigrant from around the world.
 
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Then allow Chinese immigrant from around the world.

Kuan Yew and gang do demographics engineering. But now PRC seems not coming as Beijing Shanghai offered the future, so they import Hindus.

Their sworn aim is citizen never allow to have pie of wealth. All wealth are transferred to elites through population ponzi.

His death is a good news for Singaporeans.

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