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Should Pakistan Army get PLL05 120mm Self-Propelled Mortar-Howitzer?

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The PLL05 (or Type 05) is the self-propelled mortar-howitzer system based on a WZ551 6X6 wheeled chassis. The system combines features of the conventional mortar and the howitzer, firing projectiles at both short-range, high-arcing ballistic trajectories and longer-range, less steep ballistic trajectories for indirect fire. The PLL05 has been equipped by the 127th Light Mechanised Infantry Division of the 54th Group Army since 2008. A track-based version of the system is currently in development.

Programme

The concept of mortar-howitzer was first developed by Russia on the 2S9 NONA-S 120mm tracked SP artillery system, which entered service with the Russian Army in 1981. The same artillery system was later adopted by the 8X8 wheel-based 2S23 NONA-SVK. Although neither system has been exported, China may have managed to obtained an example from a third country in the 1980s and developed its own mortar-howitzer system based on the Russian design. The PLL05 was said to be superior to the 2S9/2S23 in range.



PLL05 in service with PLA mechanised infantry troops (Chinese Internet)
The Chinese-designed mortar-howitzer system was first revealed by the NORINCO for the export market in 2001, but the system did not receive any order. An improved variant with a redesigned turret was adopted by the PLA under the designation PLL05. The artillery system can be found in the artillery regiment organic to a light (wheel-based) mechanised infantry division, with 18 vehicles organised into a mortar-howitzer battalion.

Design

The PLL05 uses a 6X6 wheeled chassis derived from the ZSL92/WZ551 armoured personnel carrier (APC) with steeled hull. The combat weight is 16.5 tonnes, enabling the vehicle to be airlifted by a Y-8-sized transport aircraft. A crew of four (commander, driver, gunner, and loader) are protected inside the hull with collective NBC protection system.

Armaments

The main armament is a 120mm rifled gun, with no muzzle break or fume extractor. The gun has an elevation range of -4°~+80°, and an azimuth range of 360° (in contrast to the +/-35° azimuth range of the 2S23). The maximum range is 9.5km when firing the howitzer projectile, 8.5km when firing the mortar projectile, and 1.2km when firing the HEAT projectile. The artillery could also fire the rocket-assisted mortar projectile, which has a maximum range of 12.8km. The artillery is capable of both in-direct and direct firing. Fire accuracy is attained by a fire-control system, which allows three aiming methods: automatic, semi-automatic, and manual.



PLL05 in the high-elevation firing position (Chinese Internet)
While the 2S9/2S23 is manually loaded, the PLL05 is equipped with a semi-automatic loader, which gives a rate of fire of 6~8 rounds/minute (howitzer projectile), 10 rounds/minute (mortar projectile), and 4~6 rounds/minute (HE-AT projectile). The turret is fitted with a cylinder-shape electro-optical device, which may allows the use of smart ammunitions like the Russian KBP Gran laser-guided mortar round. 36 rounds are carried inside the turret and hull.

Secondary weapon includes a Type 85 12.7mm anti-aircraft machine gun mounted on the commander copula. There are two sets of smoke grenade launchers in group of three, with one fitted on each side of the turret.

Propulsion

The vehicle is powered by a BF8L413F 4-stroke, 8-cylinder, turbo-charged, air-cooled diesel engine, which produces a standard power of 235kW (320hp) at 2,500rpm. The vehicle is capable of a maximum speed of 85km/h on paved road and 8km/h when afloat. Two propellers are fitted at the rear of the vehicle for swimming.

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I think that we should buy the best of the howitzers like Pzh 2000 , K 9 Thunder, AS 90 or G6 Howitzer which are far better than the one u mentioned.

The current self propelled artillery inventory of Pak Army is quite weak which only has M110 howitzer, M109A2 , M109A4 , M109A5 , NORINCO SH1 and the most outdated M7 Priest.
 
I think that we should buy the best of the howitzers like Pzh 2000 , K 9 Thunder, AS 90 or G6 Howitzer which are far better than the one u mentioned.

The current self propelled artillery inventory of Pak Army is quite weak which only has M110 howitzer, M109A2 , M109A4 , M109A5 , NORINCO SH1 and the most outdated M7 Priest.
Yes Pakistan needs to get some more Artillery by the way what do you think @Aeronaut ?
 
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Anything that can serve Pakistan Army well, Pakistan should go for it.
 
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Specifications
Weight 47 tonnes (K9)
56 tonnes (T-155 'Firtina')
Length 12 m
Width 3.4 m
Height 2.73 m
Crew 5 (Commander, Driver, Gunner, 2 Loaders)
Maximum range 30,000 m (HE)
38,000 m (DP-ICM base bleed)
41,600 m (Extended range full-bore-base)
52-56,000 m (BB+RAP extended range)
Main
armament 52 cal (155mm howitzer)
Secondary
armament 12.7 mm (.50 caliber) K6 HMG
Engine MTU MT 881 Ka-500 8-cylinder water-cooled diesel
1000 hp
Power/weight 21 hp/ton
Transmission S&T Dynamics X1100-5A3
Suspension hydropneumatic
Operational
range 480 km
Speed 67 km/h
Unit cost $3.1 million

AS - 90
Specifications
Weight 45.0 tons (100,800 lb)
Length 9.07 m (29 ft 9 in)
Width 3.5 m (11 ft 6 in)
Height 2.49 m (8 ft 2 in)
Armour max. 17 mm (0.66 in) steel
Main
armament 155 mm L31 39 calibre gun
48 rounds
Secondary
armament 7.62 mm NATO L7 GPMG
Engine Cummins VTA903T V8 diesel
660 hp (493 kW)
Power/weight 14.66 hp/t
Suspension hydropneumatic (Hydrogas)
Operational
range 420 km (261 mi)
on road
Speed 53 km/h (33 mph)
Unit Cost : N/A

PzH 2000
Specifications
Weight Combat: 55.8 t (61.5 short tons)
Length 11.7 m (38 ft 5 in)
Width 3.6 m (11 ft 10 in)
Height 3.1 m (10 ft 2 in)
Crew 3 (commander, driver and gunner)
Armor welded steel, 14.5 mm resistant
additional bomblet protection
Main
armament Rheinmetall 155 mm L52 Artillery Gun
(60 rounds)
3 rounds in 9.0 seconds (Burst)
10 round/min
Secondary
armament Rheinmetall MG3 7.62 mm machine gun
Engine MTU 881 Ka-500
1,000 PS (986 hp, 736 kW)
Power/weight 17.92 PS/t
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Speed Road: 67 km/h (41 mph)
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Unit Cost : US$4.5 million

G6 Howitzer
Specifications
Weight 46,500 kg (46.5 t)
Length 10.4 m (34 ft 1 in)
Width 3.5 m (11 ft 6 in)
Height 3.4 m (11 ft 2 in)
Crew 6
3–5 (G6-52 Extended Range)
Caliber 155 mm[2]
Rate of fire G6-52: 8 rpm
G6 M1A3: 6 rpm
Sustained: 2 rpm
Effective range Standard: 30 km (19 mi)
Base bleed: 39 km (24 mi)
V-LAP: 52.5 km (32.6 mi)
M9703A1: 67 km (42 mi)
Main
armament 1 x 155mm T6 L/52 (Caliber: 155mm - Scope estimated 33Km to 42Km)
Engine air-cooled diesel
525 hp (391.49 kW)
Suspension 6×6
Operational
range Road: 700 km (430 mi)
Off-road: 350 km (220 mi)
Speed Road: 85 km/h (53 mph)
Off-road: 30 km/h (19 mph)
Unit Cost : $ 2.1 million
 
what happened with the T-155 'Firtina' evaluated earlier by Pakistan ???? or why not more NORINCO SH-1 as we already have them in our stock.
 
Iran is also manufacturing self-propelled artillery Raad-2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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COAS ko uniform selection se fursaat milay tou woh artillery par khareday......he has been taking his time with uniform selection, let him decide that and then we will talk about hositzer

I don't kniw much about howitzer, so can't comment on that but hope that we get the best......we get the so best that when we turn it towards our enemy, they beg for mercy
 

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