Should female genital mutilation be banned in your country?

[Kailash Kumar]

Where FGM Is Banned By Law

Jan 28, 2020

https://www.statista.com/chart/4952/which-countries-ban-fgm-by-law/

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Its neither banned nor practiced.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Where FGM Is Banned By Law

Jan 28, 2020

https://www.statista.com/chart/4952/which-countries-ban-fgm-by-law/

In Pakistan we don't have any law for that, neither anybody knows this.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

In Pakistan we don't have any law for that, neither anybody knows this.

I came to know about it through an Islamophobic channel terming it as an Islamic practice. I asked my teacher who taught us Islamiat. He said there is no such practice. I searched the Internet. It turned out to be an African practice and was cultural and had no relation with Islam.

 

[fitpOsitive]

I came to know about it through an Islamophobic channel terming it as an Islamic practice. I asked my teacher who taught us Islamiat. He said there is no such practice. I searched the Internet. It turned out to be an African practice and was cultural and had no relation with Islam.

Extremely crazy to do, tbh.

 

[Kailash Kumar]

Its neither banned nor practiced.

In Pakistan we don't have any law for that, neither anybody knows this.

@Haris Ali2140 @fitpOsitive

What about the Bohra's and the Sheedi's?

See this article:

The practice of FGM in Pakistan is – similar as in India – strongly connected to the Bohra community. The Boras, a sect of Shia descend, consist of about 100,000 adherents in Pakistan living mainly in the southern province of Sindh and two million worldwide. Traditionally, the cutting was performed at a very young age by midwifes using a nail clip or a razor. It is believed that even today 50-60% of Bohra girls and women undergo FGM.

The most common explanation for the Dawoodi practicing FGM refers to the waves of migration of members of the sect through Africa. Bohra religious leaders regard FGM as a religious duty. A fact, that led in 2011 to a widely debated online protest by Indian Bohra activists.

Another trace regarding FGM in Pakistan points to the ethnic community of the Sheedi, who just like the Bohra settle in India and in Sindh in Pakistan, but also in Southern Baluchistan. Being descendents of Bantu people in Africa they are believed to have brought the practice with them to Pakistan as slaves in the19th and 20th century.

Defenders of the practice in Pakistan emphasize that it is mere “symbolic” or of little impact and more and more done in hospitals or doctors offices (medicalisation of FGM). For example, Dr. Zahra Ali of the Bohra community explains that certified doctors and health practitioners carry out the procedure. She states that it is a merely symbolic wound that has no further impact on women’s health. Such reports about “symbolic circumcision” have to be questioned as long as no further evidence exists. Studies and observations from other countries show that a larger number of so called “symbolic procedures” are anything but symbolic, but in fact excisions or incisions.

http://www.stopfgmmideast.org/pakistan/

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Extremely crazy to do, tbh.

Yeah.

 

[Valar.]

There are 2 different sects of Islam:
- Sunni
- Shia

Among Sunnis, there are 4 different Schools of Thoughts:
- Hanafi
- Hanbali
- Maliki
- Shafii

Followers of Shafii school of thought consider it as religious as well as cultural asI have heard. Others don't.

Pakistan is Majority Sunni Hanafi and minority Shia. Both of them do not practice this. Except a very small minority.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

male gale mutilation should also be done only voluntarily

 

[fitpOsitive]

@Haris Ali2140 @fitpOsitive

What about the Bohra's and the Sheedi's?

See this article:

The practice of FGM in Pakistan is – similar as in India – strongly connected to the Bohra community. The Boras, a sect of Shia descend, consist of about 100,000 adherents in Pakistan living mainly in the southern province of Sindh and two million worldwide. Traditionally, the cutting was performed at a very young age by midwifes using a nail clip or a razor. It is believed that even today 50-60% of Bohra girls and women undergo FGM.

The most common explanation for the Dawoodi practicing FGM refers to the waves of migration of members of the sect through Africa. Bohra religious leaders regard FGM as a religious duty. A fact, that led in 2011 to a widely debated online protest by Indian Bohra activists.

Another trace regarding FGM in Pakistan points to the ethnic community of the Sheedi, who just like the Bohra settle in India and in Sindh in Pakistan, but also in Southern Baluchistan. Being descendents of Bantu people in Africa they are believed to have brought the practice with them to Pakistan as slaves in the19th and 20th century.

Defenders of the practice in Pakistan emphasize that it is mere “symbolic” or of little impact and more and more done in hospitals or doctors offices (medicalisation of FGM). For example, Dr. Zahra Ali of the Bohra community explains that certified doctors and health practitioners carry out the procedure. She states that it is a merely symbolic wound that has no further impact on women’s health. Such reports about “symbolic circumcision” have to be questioned as long as no further evidence exists. Studies and observations from other countries show that a larger number of so called “symbolic procedures” are anything but symbolic, but in fact excisions or incisions.

http://www.stopfgmmideast.org/pakistan/

Well, these are isolated things. Not commonly known or accepted. Sheedis are originally African origin people, so you see.
If you ask people about it, 99% might not even be knowing it.

 

[Kailash Kumar]

Well, these are isolated things. Not commonly known or accepted. Sheedis are originally African origin people, so you see.
If you ask people about it, 99% might not even be knowing it.

@fitpOsitive

But the question was not if female genital mutilation (FGM) is prevalent or isolated in your country.
Nor where it originally came from.
The question was if it should be banned.
And then it should not matter if many practice it or some and why they do so.

Should it not at least be banned to protect the women from the Bohra and Sheedi communities?

 

[Lincoln]

Its neither banned nor practiced.

Accurate.

@fitpOsitive

But the question was not if female genital mutilation (FGM) is prevalent or isolated in your country.
Nor where it originally came from.
The question was if it should be banned.
And then it should not matter if many practice it or some and why the do so.

Should it not at least be banned to protect the women from the Bohra and Sheedi communities?

Tough question. When you ban something not known, you bring the issue to limelight. But at the same time, there will always be isolated cases.

Either way, I don't think anyone in Pakistan finds FGM a sane thing, and so it should be banned anyways.

 

[jamahir]

What about the Bohra's and the Sheedi's?

In India too it is done among the Bohras.

male gale mutilation should also be done only voluntarily

Male circumcision is not mutilation. It doesn't take away any ability to perform sex.

Furthermore, it has been found that circumcised males are more immune to STDs than uncircumcised males, i.e. if the circumcised males take care to wash after the act.

 

[fitpOsitive]

@fitpOsitive

But the question was not if female genital mutilation (FGM) is prevalent or isolated in your country.
Nor where it originally came from.
The question was if it should be banned.
And then it should not matter if many practice it or some and why they do so.

Should it not at least be banned to protect the women from the Bohra and Sheedi communities?

It's should be.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

In India too it is done among the Bohras.



Male circumcision is not mutilation. It doesn't take away any ability to perform sex.

Furthermore, it has been found that circumcised males are more immune to STDs than uncircumcised males, i.e. if the circumcised males take care to wash after the act.

still choice should be given ....human beings had sex for 100,000 years without circumcision and still not contracting STDs....Isn't the phrase "My Body,My Rules" an enshrined non violable concept of modern day Marxism?