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Shoot me, but I still won't sing Vande Mataram, says Muslim leader

There was a time when there was no opposition to this issue and every Indian was willingly singing Vande Matram

Opposition to singing of Vande Matram is a recent issue raised by Muslim leaders to unite their fellow Muslims.

While RSS sanghis are using this stupidity to rally Hindus :p:

And when was that TIME?

BTW as far as my memory works and i recall reading this hindu religious song had been having communal rifts even before partition.

Imposing it in fact is negation of Indian national anthem. If India constitutionally regain her Hindu identity then it would be fine to replace Indian national anthem jana mana with vande mataram.
 
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And when was that TIME?

BTW as far as my memory works and i recall reading this hindu religious song had been having communal rifts even before partition.

Imposing it in fact is negation of Indian national anthem. If India constitutionally regain her Hindu identity then it would be fine to replace Indian national anthem jana mana with vande mataram.
This is our mistake. Jinnah carved out a country for those who felt they could live with non Muslims. And what did we do? We asked them to stay on. The proper exchange of populations was done only in Punjab.
Are there any Hindu Sikh Muslim riots anymore there?

Imposing it in fact is negation of Indian national anthem
Nonsense. It also calls to the worship of motherland. Muslims try not to oppose it because they will be directly jailed for it.
 
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BTW as far as my memory works and i recall reading this hindu religious song had been having communal rifts even before partition.
We assumed that Those who had problem with Hindus had migrated to Pakistan.

As @SarthakGanguly has aptly pointed out that there was a mistake on our part.

Now new stategy is needed to reform and correct our past misdeeds
 
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We assumed that Those who had problem with Hindus had migrated to Pakistan.

As @SarthakGanguly has aptly pointed out that there was a mistake on our part.

Now new stategy is needed to reform and correct our past misdeeds
We need to send Pakistanis to Pakistan or jannah or Dharma. In the 21st century no country should waste time on stupid medieval religious conflicts.
 
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Stupid Indians are after Muslims of India on these things of Vande Matram and the likes.

But they on their own don't shed their dirty traditions; Immersion of dead bodies in their own sacred Ganga river.

While Nepal is improving fast on such matters:

Nepal criminalizes tradition of forcing menstruating women into cowsheds
Don't worry too much. It's only a matter of time before china invades India through doklam and rules us. Then Muslims will be treated same way as in china - alls well that ends well! :agree:
 
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:lol: how about Hindus stop imposing vande mataram on everyone for the very SAKE OF unity and harmony ??

Prolly you don't know that in the name of secularism we are taught Kalma (Pehla Kalma if I'm not wrong).
So Muslims chant GAYATRI mantra and Hindus know Kalma in India.
I'm sure you're not aware of it and that you don't expect such things happening in your country. :lol:
Singing Vande Mataram is no big deal at all.

If you read my previous post, you'd know that the issue was not about calling the mother Lord, but the next verses which imply the mother being referred to are Hindu Goddesses. You are welcome to call God with whatever name you choose, that's none of my business.

But as @SOUTHie and@padamchen have clarified, the verses praising the Hindu Goddesses are not part of the modern version, and the mother being referred to is the motherland, i.e. India. Therefore, I don't see any reason why one can't sing it.
My bad.
I misunderstood your post. :)
 
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Shoot me, but I still won't sing Vande Mataram, says Muslim leader

and . . . I will definitely cry about non integration of my community in the mainstream !


Jai Hind yani Jai Hindustan ka matlab jo jaanta hain wohi Vande Mataram ka matlab samaj sakta hain.

Waisay Pehlay Jai Hind matlab kay saath dil say bolo , tabhi Vande Mataram ka real matlab samne hoga.
 
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Can anyone post the lyrics here?

I do not know what the fuss is all about
 
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If one doesn't want to because of their religion, none should force them.
 
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Wand-e-Matram has shirkiya wording and Muslims do not do shirk.

The song taken from novel anand math
Prolly you don't know that in the name of secularism we are taught Kalma (Pehla Kalma if I'm not wrong).
So Muslims chant GAYATRI mantra and Hindus know Kalma in India.
I'm sure you're not aware of it and that you don't expect such things happening in your country. :lol:
Singing Vande Mataram is no big deal at all.


My bad.
I misunderstood your post. :)
plz post proofs.
and vcande mataram is nothing but false ego of hindus. For Muslims it is a big deal they do not believe nor we bow to deities.

We need to send Pakistanis to Pakistan or jannah or Dharma. In the 21st century no country should waste time on stupid medieval religious conflicts.
says a hindu who's fellows are lynching Muslims over beef. what an enlightened religion is Hinduism where humans are divided and discriminated on cast basis.
worst than medievalism .at least that was a temporary phase but hindus are incorrigible
 
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Well everyone can and will hoist tricolor it is only that if BJP manages to provide tricolor to each household

Is such a thing prevalent in the US/UK/EU/Japan/Canada?
India is regressive society under Modi.

One step forward, two steps backwards.
 
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Can anyone post the lyrics here?

I do not know what the fuss is all about
Vande maataraM
sujalaaM suphalaaM malayaja shiitalaaM
SasyashyaamalaaM maataram ||

Mother, I bow to thee!
Rich with thy hurrying streams,
bright with orchard gleams,
Cool with thy winds of delight,
Dark fields waving Mother of might,
Mother free.



Shubhrajyotsnaa pulakitayaaminiiM
pullakusumita drumadala shobhiniiM
suhaasiniiM sumadhura bhaashhiNiiM
sukhadaaM varadaaM maataraM ||
Translation by Shree Aurobindo


Glory of moonlight dreams,
Over thy branches and lordly streams,
Clad in thy blossoming trees,
Mother, giver of ease
Laughing low and sweet!
Mother I kiss thy feet,
Speaker sweet and low!
Mother, to thee I bow.


These two are the adopted lines as national song
 
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