Shimon Peres: Israeli war criminal whose victims the West ignored

[mike2000 is back]

Ohhhh Look at this dynamic duo that got their butts handed to them in different threads and decided to come and bring your baggage to this one...



The Egyptian government removed them from the terrorist lists.

Also we contribute to the blockade to stop the MB which Hamas is an offshoot of. As for Hamas the government has bigger things to deal with then support Hamas, first they have to fix the Egyptian economy by maintaining the blockade we are insuring Israel doesn't get any "funny" ideas and decide to surprise attack us again.



HAHAHA you wish! Is that why over 2,000 militants have been killed in the Sinai? Please law and order is already being put back in place, Have you been reading Ceyals fantasy posts?



I won't even talk about the Millions you have murdered in your global war on "terror" or your war criminal George bush C*ck sucker Tony blair.



If anything the British should be the last one to talk considering everything wrong with the middle east was thanks to you and frances colonization.



I do not care for Iran or Islamists, I care for Reality and I am showing it to these Israelis.



Why don't you open your border freely for those Calais(or whatever you call it) Migrants?



You mean the first Arab country to get a piece of American aid money and access to American weapons? I say it's a fair deal. Don't slaughter Israel and we get access to your weapons.



More like Israel and America pleaded for terms.



When was the last time Romania won a war?

I forgot about your unimportant countries history since it doesn't matter.



Not for long...



We don't have to be obedient we broke the camp David accords multiple times and Israel wasn't man enough to face us. We also placed SAM missiles in Sinai, We are making agreements with Russia and China, you will find out that Egypt is farrrrrrr from obedient.


How about both of you since your butthurt take a break, no need for vendettas or revenge.

P.S you two are de-railing the thread, please go read the title.

Whose butt was handed to him? You mean yours right? Lol you are the one who had your butt handed to you in the other thread and ran away, since you were claiming Egyptians migrants fleeing poverty and oppression in your poverty stricken military dictatorship ruled country to the West are irrelevant when looking at bigger picture in Egypt. I Told you, you are a hypocrite since you are saying this simply because you are among the lucky ones who made it to the West and now claiming how there is nothing special in the west. If there wasn't then you wouldn't be here in a western country enjoying yourself/freedom while claiming how others who stayed back home should remain there instead of coming to a decrepit west. Lol laughable. I know your hypocritical kind very well. Lol

Secondly, You said I QUOTE: "Also we contribute to the blockade to stop the MB which Hamas is an offshoot of. As for Hamas the government has bigger things to deal with then support Hamas, first they have to fix the Egyptian economy by maintaining the blockade we are insuring Israel doesn't get any "funny" ideas and decide to surprise attack us again."

Awwww ......REALLY?? Lol That is funny.
Why dont you support your Muslim brother(brotherhood) and Hamas? You should provide them with unconditional support. Like your Mullah brothers in Iran do. . I fail to understand why your government is scared of the Muslim brotherhood. Afterall, they are upholding Islam and are pure muslims. Lol Why are you scared of them being muslim yourself?
Your military dictatorship led by general Al sisi, has been killing and suppressing your Muslim brotherhood brothers like never before in egyptian history(not even under Mubarak, another dictator) and even considers them a(yet another one) terrorist group. Lool ironic isn't it?. So much for Muslim Ummah unity. Lool
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/death-egypt-s-revolution-crackdowns-arrests-1121351817
http://www.doamuslims.org/?p=3816
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeremiah-j-bowden/has-sisis-disdain-for-the_b_5604279.html

Thirdly, as I said, I still don't understand why you dont help and support your brothers Hamas the terror group. They need your help afterall, yet you have been blockading them for years now(which you yourself reluctantly admit). And now you give pathetic excuses like you want to focus on " economic problems" first? What kind of foolish excuse is that? . I'm sure even your Muslim brothers here will laugh at that pathetic excuse you just gave. You think Iran who is supporting all these shia militias Islamists terror groups in the region doesn't have its own economic issues to sort out? They do. So your excuse is mute. You should Come out with something better to justify your unislamic actions.

Finally, who cares about the amount of your own "Muslim brothers or brotherhood" you have killed in Sinai? Or the number of innocent people/civilians your military dictatorship has killed/suppressed there? Nobody cares to be honest(I couldn't care one bit ). I was just wondering why you don't negotiate and open your doors to these Islamists groups and welcome them as your brothers, instead of killing them and suppressing "your own people" in the region. Afterall, you are all holy muslims. Holy muslims should help each other, not kill each other. If you are suppressing each other and killing each other, how can you even start talking about Israel defending itself from similar Islamists which you yourself/country consider a "threat"? Lol. The day you open your borders and country fully to Hamas and other Islamists groups in region, then I will consider your claims about your innocent muslim brothers fighting for their right and being oppress by Israel seriously. Until then you are no better(if not farrrrrrrr worse).

Plus , dont even go on about your pathetic performance against Israel during the war, a country of 80million couldn't defeat a small tiny country of barely 8million people(surrounded by and fighting several hostile countries at once). Lmao. It's like Bengladesh defeating India. @rainman . Not only that you had to sign a very humiliating "peace deal" with Israel as a result of your defeat, so Israel could withdraw from Sinai which they took from you after the war(which you people started) and you have to ask for permission from them before intervening military in your own lawless Sinai dominated islamists territory . That's a big shame , if I were you I won't even be mentioning the war, I will avoid it at all cost. Lool Too bad Israel handed you Sinai back, if I was them I would have kept and annexed it like the Golan heights from Syria's other butcher dictator Assad(who also started the war.lol). Afterall, you people started the war. So you have to reap what you sow. Never start something you are incapable of finishing.
Some of you Arabs are pathetic in your performance.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt–Israel_Peace_Treaty

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...r-first-time-since-1979-peace-treaty-1.340405

I will finish this by saying: please follow your other Islamic brothers and stop recognising Israel . You are doing Islam a disfavour by being one of the very few Muslim countries to recognise them officially and then turning around and shedding crocodile tears about Palestine. Lol Hypocrites.

 

[flamer84]

Whose butt was handed to him? You mean yours right? Lol you are the one who had your butt handed to you in the other thread and ran away, since you were claiming Egyptians migrants fleeing poverty and oppression in your military dictatorship ruled country to the West are irrelevant when looking at bigger picture in Egypt.

In the other thread he first rebuked any claims that Egyptian would ever cross in dingies,risking in the process of becoming shark food,the sea to reach Europe as refugees .When confronted with links he backpaddled.He than went on another level of being stupid because ,in his mind,he thought it impossible for Afghans to trekk thousands of miles towards Europe.....Again,confronted with links he quietly went away.This dude lives in a parallel universe.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Whose butt was handed to him? You mean yours right? Lol you are the one who had your butt handed to you in the other thread and ran away, since you were claiming Egyptians migrants fleeing poverty and oppression in your military dictatorship ruled country to the West are irrelevant when looking at bigger picture in Egypt. I Told you, you are a hypocrite since you are saying this simply because you are among the lucky ones who made it to the West and now claiming how there is nothing special in the west. If there wasn't the you wouldn't be here in a western country enjoying yourself/freedom while claiming how others who stayed back home should remain there instead of coming to a decrepit west. Lol laughable.

You know whats really laughable the fact that you think I'm talking about that thread I'm talking about the other one, You mean nonexistent migrants? Dead migrants? Less then 1,000 of them exist I don't consider that proof also I acknowledged the ONE case you had that was it. I'm not a "lucky" one and no I am not a hypocrite, I grew up in the west and have first hand seen it's failures and faults and they disgust me. Also I live in America which alone as a country is 10 times better then trashy Europe.

Why dont you support your Muslim brother(brotherhood) and Hamas? You should provide them with unconditional support. Like your Mullah brothers in Iran do.

Please tell me your kidding? Do you know what the Muslim brotherhood is? Please do not talk about stuff you know nothing about.



Egyptian Protesters supporting the ousted president Mohamed Morsi pushed an armored police vehicle off bridge






Would you give these folks unconditional support???

I fail to understand why your government is scared of Muslim brotherhood. Afterall, they are upholding Islam and are pure muslims . Why are you scared of them being muslim yourself?

Do you know anything about Islam?



MB Supporters Killing all Officers in Kardasa police Station ...
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MB Supporters Killing all Officers in Kardasa police Station - Video Dailymotion

This is not Islam nor is this,



Muslim Brotherhood Burns Churches, Scapegoats Christians Following ...
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Egypt's Coptic Christian minority has become a favorite target for Muslim Brotherhood supporters and other radical Islamists across the country in the wake ...

Im sure even your Muslim brothers here will laugh at that pathetic excuse you just gave. You think Iran who is supporting all these militias Islamists terror groups in the region doesn't have its own economic issues to sort out?

Do you know whats the economic status of Egypt? I suggest you research before talking.

Your military dictatorship led by general Al sisi, has been killing and suppressing your Muslim brotherhood brothers like never before in egyptian history(not even under Mubarak, another dictator) and even considers them a(yet another one) terrorist group. Lool ironic isn't it?. So much for Muslim Ummah unity. Loo

Yet not as much as your George Bush C*ck sucker Tony Blair.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/4-mill...stern-wars-should-we-call-it-genocide/208711/

4 Million Muslims Killed In Western Wars: Should We Call It Genocide?




absolutely disgusting

Finally, who cares about the amount of your own "Muslim brothers" you have killed in Sinai? Or the number of innocent people/civilians your military dictatorship has killed/suppressed there?

I don't think you should be talking especially considering all the war crimes done in Iraq and Afghanistan.

You do know the reason of why we got rid of over 80% of our troops from the Sinai, its because we killed all the militants in case you didn't realize.

Have you been watching ISIS propaganda?

Plus , dont even go on about your pathetic performance against Israel during the war, a country of 80million couldn't defeat a small tiny country of barely 8million.

I don't consider it pathetic considering they had a country of over 200 million people and have a world superpower backing them in that war, thats far from pathetic.

have to ask for permission from them before intervening military in your own lawless Sinai dominated islamists territory .

Is that why we didn't ask for permission to station more troops there? Is that why we placed SAM systems there? LOL comeback when Israel mans up.

, you people started the war. So you have to reap what you sow. Never start something you are incapable of finishing.
Some of you Arabs are pathetic in your performance.

If they kept it, Israel would have never existed today, don't test the will of the Egyptian people.

In the other thread he first rebuked any claims that Egyptian would ever cross in dingies,risking in the process of becoming shark food,the sea to reach Europe as refugees .When confronted with links he backpaddled.

I didn't backpedal I accepted the facts and was done unlike you

“All I know is that I know nothing”
― Socrates

Especially considering I owned you in another thread about Nazis in Europe and you refused to answer.

.He than went on another level of being stupid because ,in his mind,he thought it impossible for Afghans to trekk thousands of miles towards Europe

They didn't trek thousands of miles they were flown in or taken there.

.Again,confronted with links he quietly went away.This dude lives in a parallel universe.

I accepted the facts and left, that isn't backpedaling. But of course you did also I believe in this thread.

Germans Told To Wear Hijab In New UN Ad where it was YOU who backpedaled, please go away troll.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/germans-told-to-wear-hijab-in-new-un-ad.449950/page-6#ixzz4LkhJyk7h

P.S your de-railing the thread, please go read the title, just because you have a vendetta doesn't mean you should bring your baggage, New thread, New start we can all be friends here.

 

[Solomon2]

Indy’s Robert Fisk smears Shimon Peres as a man of ‘blood and slaughter’.
BY ADAM LEVICK ON SEPTEMBER 29, 2016


Shimon Peres died yesterday at the age of 93. Within hours of his death, British media obituaries for the internationally popular Israeli statesman flooded the internet. Most have been positive, though some have included reasonable criticisms.

Whilst the usual propagandists from the ‘hate Israel’ brigade launched all too predictable attacks on Peres during the day, theIndependent was the first ‘mainstream’ British news outlet to go all out smear.

Well, to be fair, it wasn’t just any Indy journalist.

It was Robert Fisk.

Fisk reduced the Israeli leader’s long and distinguished career to one incident carried out by the IDF during an operation against Hezbollah in 1996.

The headline of the Sept. 28th piece says it all.

​

Don’t remember Peres, Fisk is saying, as the tenacious advocate for peace who held every major government position during his political career, nor as Nobel Peace Prize Winner for his efforts to reach an agreement with the Palestinians.

Rather, he suggests, thoughts of Peres should evoke memories of tortured humanity inflicted by Israel’s cruel machines of war – a legacy of “blood, fire and slaughter”.

The op-ed begins:

When the world heard that Shimon Peres had died, it shouted “Peacemaker!” But when I heard that Peres was dead, I thought of blood and fire and slaughter.

I saw the results: babies torn apart, shrieking refugees, smouldering bodies. It was a place called Qana and most of the 106 bodies – half of them children – now lie beneath the UN camp where they were torn to pieces by Israeli shells in 1996. I had been on a UN aid convoy just outside the south Lebanese village. Those shells swished right over our heads and into the refugees packed below us. It lasted for 17 minutes.

Shimon Peres, standing for election as Israel’s prime minister – a post he inherited when his predecessor Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated – decided to increase his military credentials before polling day by assaulting Lebanon. The joint Nobel Peace Prize holder used as an excuse the firing of Katyusha rockets over the Lebanese border by the Hezbollah. In fact, their rockets were retaliation for the killing of a small Lebanese boy by a booby-trap bomb they suspected had been left by an Israeli patrol. It mattered not.

A few days later, Israeli troops inside Lebanon came under attack close to Qana and retaliated by opening fire into the village. Their first shells hit a cemetery used by Hezbollah; the rest flew directly into the UN Fijian army camp where hundreds of civilians were sheltering. Peres announced that “we did not know that several hundred people were concentrated in that camp. It came to us as a bitter surprise.”

This was Peres’s contribution to Lebanese peace. He lost the election and probably never thought much more about Qana. But I never forgot it. ​

Fisk is referring to an incident during Operation Grapes of Wrath, a two-week military operation in Lebanon launched in April of 1996 to stop continuous Hezbollah rocket attacks on Israeli communities near the Lebanese border. Though rocket fire increased intensity since the beginning of 1996, the casus belli of the operation was one specific exchange which resulted in 38 Israeli casualties.

He uncritically parrots Hezbollah’s claim that the deadly attack on Israel in question was merely a retaliation for a “booby-trap” Israeli bomb that killed a small Lebanese boy, despite Israel’s denial and the fact that even UN investigation could not determine who planted the bomb.

Moreover, the claim by Fisk that Peres launched the “assault” to “increase his military credentials before polling day” is a version of a popular lie used continually by extremist anti-Israel activists: that Israeli leaders routinely launch military operations not to protect the country from its terrorist enemies, but to increase their popularity with an electorate putatively thirsting for the blood of innocents.

Cartoon by Carlos Latuff depicting Ehud Olmert during the 2008-09 war against Hamas.​

After several paragraphs in which Fisk describes in great detail the injuries and deaths caused by the Israeli shell, he pivots to the UN inquiry on the incident.

There was a UN enquiry which stated in its bland way that it did not believe the slaughter was an accident. The UN report was accused of being anti-Semitic.​

Whilst we were unable to find any evidence that the UN report was accused of being compromised by antisemitism, as Fisk claims, the report’s conclusions were strongly criticized by the US as “inaccurate”. A US statement (from its U.N. mission) characterized the Israeli shelling as unintentional.

Further, Israeli claims that they “were responding to fire from Hezbollah fighters a few hundred yards from the [UN] base and hit the camp as a result of a series of…miscalculations” were backed up by the UN report’s admission that, before the Israeli shelling, “Hezbollah guerrillas fired rockets from…about 240 yards [away] from the U.N. compound” and that, at some point, Hezbollah fighters had entered the compound.

Additionally, if you read the conclusions of the UN inquiry, it’s more accurate to say that their report was “careful not to state explicitly that Israel had shelled the U.N. camp deliberately”.

Fisk’s theme of wanton Israeli slaughter of civilians takes an even more insidious turn in the next paragraph:

Peres called his Lebanese invasion “Operation Grapes of Wrath”, which – if it wasn’t inspired by John Steinbeck – must have come from the Book of Deuteronomy. “The sword without and terror within,” it says in Chapter 32, “shall destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of grey hairs.” Could there be a better description of those 17 minutes at Qana?​

“Grapes of Wrath” actually also has origins in the Book of Revelation in the New Testament (chapter 14 verses 19 and 20): “So the angel swung his sickle across the earth and gathered the grape harvest of the earth and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God”. But, more importantly, Fisk’s words evokes a version of ubiquitous antisemitic tropes suggesting that the Old Testament G-d is a G-d of vengeance against non-Jews, and that modern Jews (or Israelis) derive their ‘violent’ motivation from this ethos.

Fisk concludes thusly:

Yes, of course, Peres changed in later years. They claimed that Ariel Sharon – whose soldiers watched the massacre at Sabra and Chatila camps in 1982 by their Lebanese Christian allies – was also a “peacemaker” when he died. At least he didn’t receive the Nobel Prize.

Peres later became an advocate of a “two state solution”, even as the Jewish colonies on Palestinian land – which he once so fervently supported – continued to grow.

Now we must call him a “peacemaker”. And count, if you can, how often the word “peace” is used in the Peres obituaries over the next few days. Then count how many times the word Qana appear.​

Beyond the distortions in his characterization of the 1996 war, Fisk’s effort to smear Peres based on one incident while he was prime minister – in the context of a 70 year career – is as absurd as assessing Barack Obama’s eight years as president by focusing entirely on a few US military attacks in Afghanistan, Pakistan or Syria which unintentionally killed innocent civilians.

Sadly, such a dishonest and vicious smear of Peres by Fisk, published on the very day we learned of his death, doesn’t at all come as a surprise to those of us familiar with the Independent, a news site which continues to earn its reputation as the most hostile ‘respectable’ anti-Israel voice in the UK.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Further, Israeli claims that they “were responding to fire from Hezbollah fighters a few hundred yards from the [UN] base and hit the camp as a result of a series of…miscalculations” were backed up by the UN report’s admission that, before the Israeli shelling, “Hezbollah guerrillas fired rockets from…about 240 yards [away] from the U.N. compound” and that, at some point, Hezbollah fighters had entered the compound.

Further, Israeli claims that they “were responding to fire from Hezbollah fighters a few hundred yards from the [UN] base and hit the camp as a result of a series of…miscalculations” were backed up by the UN report’s admission that, before the Israeli shelling, “Hezbollah guerrillas fired rockets from…about 240 yards [away] from the U.N. compound” and that, at some point, Hezbollah fighters had entered the compound.

Additionally, if you read the conclusions of the UN inquiry, it’s more accurate to say that their report was “careful not to state explicitly that Israel had shelled the U.N. camp deliberately”.

Tsk tsk tsk, do you honestly expect us to believe that? Coming from a nation that has a missile defense system with an over 90% accuracy rate? Dude everyone knows you did it deliberately, you can't lie its obvious from your tech including your trophy system and advanced satellites shows that you knew exactly what you were doing when,where,why and how. It's also not the first time to happen.


The Qana massacre[1] took place on April 18, 1996 near Qana, a village in Southern Lebanon, when the Israel Defense Forces fired artillery shells at a United Nations compound.[2][3] Of 800 Lebanese civilians who had taken refuge in the compound, 106 were killed and around 116 injured. Four Fijian United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon soldiers were also seriously injured.[4][5]

which was based on video evidence showing that an Israeli drone was spying on the compound before the shelling. Israel at first denied spying on the compound but changed its version of the story after the video was made public.[7] Israel categorically rejected the findings of the UN report concerning the incident.[8]

Major-General Amiram Levine declared: "The residents in south Lebanon who are under the responsibility of Hezbollah will be hit harder, and the Hezbollah will be hit harder, and we will find the way to act correctly and quickly."

well-marked on Israeli maps, and bearing white and black UN signs. [12] By 16th of April, Hezbollah had fired 120 Katyusha rockets into Israel, causing one casualty, at Kiryat Shmona, while Israel was firing over 3,000 shells, conducting 200 missile raids a day into Lebanon, and firing from gunboats on the refugee-crowded roads to Beirut.

Amnon Shahak, the IDF's chief of staff, at a press conference in Tel Aviv on April 18 defended the shelling: "I don't see any mistake in judgment… We fought Hezbollah there [in Qana], and when they fire on us, we will fire at them to defend ourselves… I don't know any other rules of the game, either for the army or for civilians…"[20]


"the IDF intentionally attacked the UN compound, although the motives for doing so remain unclear. The IDF have failed to substantiate their claim that the attack was a mistake. Even if they were to do so they would still bear responsibility for killing so many civilians by taking the risk to launch an attack so close to the UN compound."[23]
The attack occurred amid heavy fighting between the Israel Defense Forces and Hezbollah during Operation Grapes of Wrath. A United Nations investigation later stated it was unlikely that the Israeli shelling was a technical or procedural error,[6] which was based on video evidence showing that an Israeli drone was spying on the compound before the shelling. Israel at first denied spying on the compound but changed its version of the story after the video was made public.[7] Israel categorically rejected the findings of the UN report concerning the incident.[8]

Human Rights Watch concurred, "The decision of those who planned the attack to choose a mix of high-explosive artillery shells that included deadly anti-personnel shells designed to maximize injuries on the ground—and the sustained firing of such shells, without warning, in close proximity to a large concentration of civilians — violated a key principle of international humanitarian law."[24]


A video recording made by a UNIFIL soldier of Force Mobile Reserve (FMR) showed an unmanned drone and two helicopters in the vicinity at the time of the shelling. An Israeli governmentspokesman confirmed there was a drone in the area, but stated that it did not detect civilians in the compound. The IDF initially and repeatedly claimed, in response to the UN investigator, Dutch major-general Frank van Kappen's questioning, that no drone was flying in the area before or during the shelling.[12] All eyewitnesses testified that during the attack a pilotless drone hovered over the camp. [12] The truth only emerged when the UNIFIL soldier secretly delivered the tape to Beirut-based journalist Robert Fisk. Fisk sent the video to his newspaper, The Independent, which published stills of the footage in an article that appeared on May 6.[17][18]


ITS NOT EVEN THE FIRST TIME!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre

The Sabra and Shatila massacre was the killing of between 762 and 3,500 civilians, mostly Palestinians and Lebanese Shiites, by a militia close to the Kataeb Party, also called Phalange, a predominantly Christian Lebanese right-wing party in the Sabra neighborhood and the adjacent Shatila refugee camp in Beirut, Lebanon. From approximately 6:00 pm 16 September to 8:00 am 18 September 1982, a widespread massacre was carried out by the militia virtually under the eyes of their Israeli allies.[4][5][6][7]

It was wrongly assumed that Palestinian militants had carried out the assassination. In June 1982, the Israel Defense Forces had invaded Lebanon with the intention of rooting out the PLO. By mid-1982, under the supervision of the Multinational Force, the PLO withdrew from Lebanon following weeks of battles in West Beirut and shortly before the massacre took place. Various forces — Israeli, Phalangists and possibly also the South Lebanon Army (SLA) — were in the vicinity of Sabra and Shatila at the time of the slaughter, taking advantage of the fact that the Multinational Force had removed barracks and mines that had encircled Beirut's predominantly Muslim neighborhoods and kept the Israelis at bay during the Beirut siege.[9] The Israeli advance over West Beirut in the wake of the PLO withdrawal, which enabled the Phalangist raid, was considered a violation of the ceasefire agreement between the various forces.[10] The Israeli Army surrounded Sabra and Shatila and stationed troops at the exits of the area to prevent camp residents from leaving and, at the Phalangists' request,[11] fired illuminating flares at night.[12][13]

In 1983, the Israeli Kahan Commission, appointed to investigate the incident, found that Israeli military personnel, aware that a massacre was in progress, had failed to take serious steps to stop it. The commission deemed Israel indirectly responsible, and Ariel Sharon, then Defense Minister, bore personal responsibility "for ignoring the danger of bloodshed and revenge", forcing him to resign.[21]

An hour later, 1,500 militiamen assembled at Beirut International Airport, then occupied by Israel. Under the command of Elie Hobeika, they began moving towards the area in IDF-supplied jeeps, some bearing weapons provided by Israel,[62] following Israeli guidance on how to enter it. The forces were mostly Phalangist, though there were some men from Saad Haddad's "Free Lebanon forces".[47] According to Ariel Sharon and Elie Hobeika's bodyguard, the Phalangists were given "harsh and clear" warnings about harming civilians.[49][63] However, it was by then known that the Phalangists presented a special security risk for Palestinians. It was published in the September 1st edition of Bamahane, the IDF newspaper, that a Phalangist told an Israeli official: "[T]he question we are putting to ourselves is — how to begin, by raping or killing?"[64] A US envoy to the Middle East expressed horror after being told of Sharon's plans to send the Phalangists inside the camps, and Israeli officials themselves acknowledged the situation could trigger "relentless slaughter".[10]


The first unit of 150 Phalangists entered Sabra and Shatila at 6:00 pm. A battle ensued that at times Palestinians claim involved lining up Palestinians for execution.[47] During the night, the Israeli forces fired illuminating flares over the area. According to a Dutch nurse, the camp was as bright as "a sports stadium during a football game".[65]


THE ONGOING GENOCIDE ON PALESTINE | AN OVERVIEW
The following list of massacres is by no means exclusive, but they reflect the nature of the Zionist occupation of Palestine and Lebanon and show that massacres and expulsions were not aberrations that happen in any war, but organized atrocities with only one aim, that is to have a Zionist state which is ‘goyim rein’.

The King David Massacre
The Massacre at Baldat al-Shaikh
Yehida Massacre
Khisas Massacre
QAZAZA MASSACRE
The Semiramis Hotel Massacre
The Massacre at Dair Yasin
NASER AL-DIN MASSACRE
THE TANTURA MASSACRE
BEIT DARAS MASSACRE
THE DAHMASH MOSQUE MASSACRE
DAWAYMA MASSACRE
HOULA MASSACRE
SHARAFAT MASSACRE
Salha Massacre
The Massacre at Qibya
KAFR QASEM MASSACRE
Khan Yunis Massacre
The Massacre in Gaza City
Al-Sammou’ Massacre
Aitharoun Massacre
Kawnin Massacre
Hanin Massacre
Bint Jbeil Massacre
Abbasieh Massacre
Adloun Massacre
Saida Massacre
Fakhani Massacre
Beirut Massacre Sabra And Shatila Massacre
Jibsheet Massacre
Sohmor Massacre
Seer Al Garbiah
Maaraka Massacres
Zrariah Massacre
Homeen Al-Tahta Massacre
Jibaa Massacre
Yohmor Massacre
Tiri massacre
Al-Naher Al-Bared Massacre
Ain Al-Hilweh Massacre
Oyoun Qara Massacre
Siddiqine Massacre
A-Aqsa Mosqie Massacre
The Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre
The Jabalia Massacre
Aramta Massacre
Eretz Checkpoint Massacre
Deir Al-Zahrani Massacre
Nabatiyeh (school bus) Massacre
Mnsuriah Massacre
The Sohmor Second Massacre
Nabatyaih Massacre
Qana Massacre
Trqumia Massacr
Janta Massacre
24 Of June 1999 Massacres
Western Bekaa villages Massacre:
The Gaza Cast Lead Massacre (2008-2009)
The Mavi Marmara Massacre May 31, 2010
The Nakba Day Massacre May 15, 2011
The ongoing Silent or Silenced Massacre
The June 5 2011 Naksa Day Massacre

https://occupiedpalestine.wordpress...athmasters-israeli-massacres-on-palestinians/

Zionists,Israel and you are a disgrace to humanity, even more so then the Nazis.

 

[mike2000 is back]

You know whats really laughable the fact that you think I'm talking about that thread I'm talking about this one(Germans Told To Wear Hijab In New UN Ad) , You mean nonexistent migrants? Dead migrants? Less then 1,000 of them exist I don't consider that proof. I'm not a "lucky" one and no I am not a hypocrite, I grew up in the west and have first hand seen it's failures and faults and they disgust me. Also I live in America which alone as a country is 10 times better then trashy Europe.




Please tell me your kidding? Do you know what the Muslim brotherhood is? Please do not talk about stuff you know nothing about.



Egyptian Protesters supporting the ousted president Mohamed Morsi pushed an armored police vehicle off bridge






Would you give these folks unconditional support???






Do you know anything about Islam?



MB Supporters Killing all Officers in Kardasa police Station ...
www.dailymotion.com1280 × 720Search by image
MB Supporters Killing all Officers in Kardasa police Station - Video Dailymotion

This is not Islam nor is this,



Muslim Brotherhood Burns Churches, Scapegoats Christians Following ...
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Egypt's Coptic Christian minority has become a favorite target for Muslim Brotherhood supporters and other radical Islamists across the country in the wake ...



Do you know whats the economic status of Egypt? I suggest you research before talking.



Yet not as much as your George Bush C*ck sucker Tony Blair.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/4-mill...stern-wars-should-we-call-it-genocide/208711/

4 Million Muslims Killed In Western Wars: Should We Call It Genocide?




absolutely disgusting



I don't think you should be talking especially considering all the war crimes done in Iraq and Afghanistan.

You do know the reason of why we got rid of over 80% of our troops from the Sinai, its because we killed all the militants in case you didn't realize.

Have you been watching ISIS propaganda?



I don't consider it pathetic considering they had a country of over 200 million people and have a world superpower backing them in that war, thats far from pathetic.



Is that why we didn't ask for permission to station more troops there? Is that why we placed SAM systems there? LOL comeback when Israel mans up.



If they kept it, Israel would have never existed today, don't test the will of the Egyptian people.




I didn't backpedal I accepted the facts and was done unlike you

“All I know is that I know nothing”
― Socrates

Especially considering I owned you in another thread about Nazis in Europe and you refused to answer.



They didn't trek thousands of miles they were flown in or taken their.



I accepted the facts and left, that isn't backpedaling. But of course you did also I believe in this thread.

Germans Told To Wear Hijab In New UN Ad where it was YOU who backpedaled, please go away troll.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/germans-told-to-wear-hijab-in-new-un-ad.449950/page-6#ixzz4LkhJyk7h

P.S your de-railing the thread, please go read the title, just because you have a vendetta doesn't mean you should bring your baggage, New thread, New start we can all be friends here.

What??? less than 1000 migrants? What are you talking about? Germany already took in over 1.5million migrants from the third world countries in the middle East and N.Africa. I'm not counting the whole of Europe. As I saod you live in a parallel world, since you are lucky you (or your parents)fled to the U.S for a better life. Lol
You say the U.S/West disgust you?LMAO. .
What are you still doing there hypocrite? Egypt needs people like you to help build the country and bring it out of its current third world status. Yet you are there enjoying your life and freedom in the U.S instead of helping your home country. I'm sure your Muslim brothers here will agree with me that a ticket from U S to Egypt isn't that expensive. A flight will barely last a day. I don't know what you are waiting for in that trashy immoral country, fly back home and help your country in its time of need Instead of using your keyboard and talking bullshit, your keyboard won't help Egypt develop and prosper. Only you Egyptians can do it yourself. So hope you soon make the right choice so that we will soon be seeing your flag displaying both egyptian flags proudly.

You go on again to ask me if I know the Muslim brotherhood, of course I do, even your Turkish brother supports them for upholding Islam. Same with friend Hamas so I don't see why you should be worried. Afterall they won Egypt's presidential election and morsi was elected president. Yet your military dictatorship led by SISI toppled him and went on to suppress,cleanse and kill as many of their members as they could. Lol. Even though I agree we support your military strongman SISI. He is good for "stability and status quo".
You showing me some random images is bullshit, I can also post pictures of your government/military atrocities against Muslim brotherhood members/supporters and against civilians in Sinai. There are pictures all over the internet about anything you want to find. Proves nothing really. Lol

As for economic status of Egypt being the reason you can't support your Islamic militias brothers in the region, tats an erroneous excuse to be honest . I already toldyouIran itself doesn't have a better economy compared to yours, they are underperforming in many fields economically(apart from producing and displaying some missiles for propaganda .lol), they are also facing economic issues(even Nigeria has a larger GDP than them as a result) In fact even Egypts GDP isn't that far behind Iran and per capital income is lower but not by much.lol yet Iran still support their Muslim Ummah militias all across the middle east.

As for blaming your humiliating defeat against Israel to western powers support. LMAO. I knew you will say that, all of you Arabs/Muslim whose *** got kicked by small Israel keep crying it's because of West support.
Keep thinking it's because of our help that Israel is so strong, as if we didn't support pakistan against India yet they lost almost all their wars, lol we supported even chiang kai shek in China against the communist guerillas, yet the lost miserably, I'm sure if we supported Kuwait(which we did) you will think they could have defeated Saddam's Iraq nd repell the invasion. Keep dreaming it's because of western short just because you want to comfort yourself from your humiliating defeat.

My point was Egyptians like you should be the last person to talk against Israel fighting similar terrorist groups in the regiowhoch isnt any different from the Islamic TERRORIST groups you claim you fight. So I don't see your point of shedding crocodile tears to be honest. You and Israel should be cooperating in fighting against these Islamist terror groups like you have been doing .

 

[mike2000 is back]

You know whats really laughable the fact that you think I'm talking about that thread I'm talking about this one(Germans Told To Wear Hijab In New UN Ad) , You mean nonexistent migrants? Dead migrants? Less then 1,000 of them exist I don't consider that proof. I'm not a "lucky" one and no I am not a hypocrite, I grew up in the west and have first hand seen it's failures and faults and they disgust me. Also I live in America which alone as a country is 10 times better then trashy Europe.




Please tell me your kidding? Do you know what the Muslim brotherhood is? Please do not talk about stuff you know nothing about.



Egyptian Protesters supporting the ousted president Mohamed Morsi pushed an armored police vehicle off bridge






Would you give these folks unconditional support???






Do you know anything about Islam?



MB Supporters Killing all Officers in Kardasa police Station ...
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MB Supporters Killing all Officers in Kardasa police Station - Video Dailymotion

This is not Islam nor is this,



Muslim Brotherhood Burns Churches, Scapegoats Christians Following ...
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Egypt's Coptic Christian minority has become a favorite target for Muslim Brotherhood supporters and other radical Islamists across the country in the wake ...



Do you know whats the economic status of Egypt? I suggest you research before talking.



Yet not as much as your George Bush C*ck sucker Tony Blair.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/4-mill...stern-wars-should-we-call-it-genocide/208711/

4 Million Muslims Killed In Western Wars: Should We Call It Genocide?




absolutely disgusting



I don't think you should be talking especially considering all the war crimes done in Iraq and Afghanistan.

You do know the reason of why we got rid of over 80% of our troops from the Sinai, its because we killed all the militants in case you didn't realize.

Have you been watching ISIS propaganda?



I don't consider it pathetic considering they had a country of over 200 million people and have a world superpower backing them in that war, thats far from pathetic.



Is that why we didn't ask for permission to station more troops there? Is that why we placed SAM systems there? LOL comeback when Israel mans up.



If they kept it, Israel would have never existed today, don't test the will of the Egyptian people.




I didn't backpedal I accepted the facts and was done unlike you

“All I know is that I know nothing”
― Socrates

Especially considering I owned you in another thread about Nazis in Europe and you refused to answer.



They didn't trek thousands of miles they were flown in or taken their.



I accepted the facts and left, that isn't backpedaling. But of course you did also I believe in this thread.

Germans Told To Wear Hijab In New UN Ad where it was YOU who backpedaled, please go away troll.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/germans-told-to-wear-hijab-in-new-un-ad.449950/page-6#ixzz4LkhJyk7h

P.S your de-railing the thread, please go read the title, just because you have a vendetta doesn't mean you should bring your baggage, New thread, New start we can all be friends here.

What??? less than 1000 migrants? What are you talking about? Germany already took in over 1.5million migrants from the third world countries in the middle East and N.Africa. I'm not counting the whole of Europe. As I saod you live in a parallel world, since you are lucky you (or your parents)fled to the U.S for a better life. Lol
You say the U.S/West disgust you?LMAO. .
What are you still doing there hypocrite? Egypt needs people like you to help build the country and bring it out of its current third world status. Yet you are there enjoying your life and freedom in the U.S instead of helping your home country. I'm sure your Muslim brothers here will agree with me that a ticket from U S to Egypt isn't that expensive. A flight will barely last a day. I don't know what you are waiting for in that trashy immoral country, fly back home and help your country in its time of need Instead of using your keyboard and talking bullshit, your keyboard won't help Egypt develop and prosper. Only you Egyptians can do it yourself. So hope you soon make the right choice so that we will soon be seeing your flag displaying both egyptian flags proudly.

You go on again to ask me if I know the Muslim brotherhood, of course I do, even your Turkish brother supports them for upholding Islam. Same with friend Hamas so I don't see why you should be worried. Afterall they won Egypt's presidential election and morsi was elected president. Yet your military dictatorship led by SISI toppled him and went on to suppress,cleanse and kill as many of their members as they could. Lol. Even though I agree we support your military strongman SISI. He is good for "stability and status quo".
You showing me some random images is bullshit, I can also post pictures of your government/military atrocities against Muslim brotherhood members/supporters and against civilians in Sinai. There are pictures all over the internet about anything you want to find. Proves nothing really. Lol

As for economic status of Egypt being the reason you can't support your Islamic militias brothers in the region, tats an erroneous excuse to be honest . I already toldyouIran itself doesn't have a better economy compared to yours, they are underperforming in many fields economically(apart from producing and displaying some missiles for propaganda .lol), they are also facing economic issues(even Nigeria has a larger GDP than them as a result) In fact even Egypts GDP isn't that far behind Iran and per capital income is lower but not by much.lol yet Iran still support their Muslim Ummah militias all across the middle east.

As for blaming your humiliating defeat against Israel to western powers support. LMAO. I knew you will say that, all of you Arabs/Muslim whose *** got kicked by small Israel keep crying it's because of West support.
Keep thinking it's because of our help that Israel is so strong, as if we didn't support pakistan against India yet they lost almost all their wars, lol we supported even chiang kai shek in China against the communist guerillas, yet the lost miserably, I'm sure if we supported Kuwait(which we did) you will think they could have defeated Saddam's Iraq nd repell the invasion. Keep dreaming it's because of western short just because you want to comfort yourself from your humiliating defeat.

My point was Egyptians like you should be the last person to talk against Israel fighting similar terrorist groups in the regiowhoch isnt any different from the Islamic TERRORIST groups you claim you fight. So I don't see your point of shedding crocodile tears to be honest. You and Israel should be cooperating in fighting against these Islamist terror groups like you have been doing .

 

[xenon54 out]

You go on again to ask me if I know the Muslim brotherhood, of course I do, even your Turkish brother supports them for upholding Islam.

It depends on how the tides turn, first a huge show and then trying to fix the damages.
-Israel
-Russia
-Gülen (the opposite happened here though)
and countless other small things in internal politics

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

What??? less than 1000 migrants? What are you talking about? Germany already took in over 1.5million migrants from the third world countries in the middle East and N.Africa. I'm not counting the whole of Europe. As I saod you live in a parallel world, since you are lucky you (or your parents)fled to the U.S for a better life. Lol

I'm talking about Egyptians idiot, which was the point you brought up. As I said you have ONE case of Egyptians leaving Egypt illegally. Also my parents did not flee for shit, My parents left Egypt right after 1982.

You say the U.S/West disgust you?LMAO.

Please quote the times I said that, because I didn't. I stated that there are flaws and faults that disgust me.

What are you still doing there hypocrite? Egypt needs people like you to help build the country and bring it out of its current third world status. Yet you are there enjoying your life and freedom in the U.S instead of helping your home country.

I'm in university what the hell can I do there that I can't do here.

Yet you are there enjoying your life and freedom in the U.S instead of helping your home country.

Enjoying? Dude your an idiot, you know nothing about my life and what I go through.

Egypt needs people like you to help build the country and bring it out of its current third world status.

When I finish university, we will start talking about how to fix Egypt.

I'm sure your Muslim brothers here will agree with me that a ticket from U S to Egypt isn't that expensive. A flight will barely last a day.

Sooooo?

. I don't know what you are waiting for in that trashy immoral country,

Europe is the trashy,immoral continent of trashing fundamental human rights.

You go on again to ask me if I know the Muslim brotherhood, of course I do, even your Turkish brother supports them for upholding Islam.

Turkey is taking care of the non-criminal ones and lets just say that the criminal ones are in Egyptian jails.

n Egypt's presidential election and morsi was elected president.

Yes that is true but Morsi lost all legal legitimacy when he trashed the constitution he was elected under.


The new constitution won by a 63.8% approval of yes. This is very misleading when the level of participation is used to generate further data. Only 32.9% of eligible voters cast their ballots for the election and most importantly the new constitution was approved with the support of 20.9% of eligible voters.

Only 17.1 million people out of nearly 52 million registered eligible voters in Egypt participated. Even though the Muslim Brotherhood and its political allies came out in full force to vote, the turnout for the referendum was actually low. This means that about 35 million eligible Egyptians (1) did not bother to vote or (2) boycotted the referendum or (3) were unable to go to a polling station to vote. In some countries such a turnout would be disqualified, because of the lack of citizen participation.

Demographically, only 10.9 million Egyptians voted yes to approve the new constitution. This is not even a quarter of the population in a country of nearly 82 million people. [2] This means that about 13.3% of the Egyptian population supported the new constitution.

The numbers or data speak for themselves. Interpreting these statistics, we have a sound frame of reference to categorically state that a minority of Egyptians helped secure the Muslim Brotherhood’s new constitutional. It is little wonder that many Egyptians declared that the referendum was illegitimate.



http://www.globalresearch.ca/statis...referendum-did-morsi-hijack-democracy/5320067

If he hadn't changed the constitution he would still be president today, but instead in his retarded power grab he essentially ended his presidency. The Egyptian military was following through with the peoples wishes.

You showing me some random images is bullshit, I can also post pictures of your government/military atrocities against Muslim brotherhood members/supporters and against civilians in Sinai.

WOW look at this MB supporter, please stop.

As for economic status of Egypt being the reason you can't support your Islamic militias brothers in the region, tats an erroneous excuse to be honest .

Well you clearly don't understand anything so lets walk you through this shall we?

Egypt's domestic debt surpasses two trillion pounds -c. bank

Egypt's domestic debt reached 2.016 trillion pounds ($261 billion) in the third quarter, the central bank said on Monday, reflecting the government's reliance on domestic borrowing to finance its deficit.

The government is walking a fine line between trying to cut its deficit, projected at more than 10 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) in the fiscal year that ended last week, whilst luring investors and restoring growth.

Political turmoil since a 2011 uprising has hurt Egypt's economy, but investors have welcomed painful reforms aimed at fixing the state's finances such as slashing energy subsidies and introducing some new taxes.

"The government is highly dependent on local sources, mostly banks, in the form of treasury bills and bonds, to finance its deficit," said Hany Farahat, senior economist at CI Capital.

The central bank statement showed that the balance of bonds and bills reached about 1.7 trillion pounds for the third quarter, which ended in March.

Total domestic borrowing was up 18 percent year-on-year, the data showed.

The government revised its budget for the 2015/16 fiscal year, which began on July 1, to lower the projected deficit after President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi rejected an initial draft.

The approved budget puts the deficit at 8.9 percent of GDP, around 251 billion pounds compared to 240 billion in the previous fiscal year.

"The deficit has been consolidating slower than planned by the government, increasing the need for financing," said Farahat.

Egypt's external debt dropped during the third quarter to $39.9 billion, the statement said, down from $45.3 billion in the same period last year.

A main factor in the reduction was an 18 percent fall in debts to Paris Club countries, which reached $3.03 billion.

($1 = 7.7201 Egyptian pounds) (Reporting by Ahmed Aboulenein; Editing by Stephen Kalin and Ralph Boulton)

Is Egypt really poor?
More than 22 million Egyptians live in poverty: report. Twenty six percent of Egypt'spopulation lives in poverty, while forty nine percent of Upper Egypt cannot provide the basic needs of food, said Egypt's Central Agency for Public Mobilization and Statistics.
More than 22 million Egyptians live in poverty: report ...
egyptianstreets.com/2014/07/13/more-than-22-million-egyptians-live-in-poverty-report/

Egypt’s finance minister says external debts to rise to $53.4 bln
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsCon...nance-minister-says-external-debts-to-ri.aspx
Egypt 'suffering worst economic crisis since 1930s'
Former finance minister and economist say Egypt is in dire predicament as foreign investment and tourism collapse
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/16/egypt-worst-economic-crisis-1930s

This isn't some stupid ploy dumbass.

As for blaming your humiliating defeat against Israel to western powers support. LMAO. I knew you will say that, all of you Arabs/Muslim whose *** got kicked by small Israel keep crying it's because of West support.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War#U.S._aid_to_Israel

Israel had received between 34 to 40 F-4 fighter-bombers, 46 A-4 attack airplanes, 12 C-130 cargo airplanes, 8 CH-53helicopters, 40 unmanned aerial vehicles, 200 M-60/M-48A3 tanks, 250 armored personnel carriers, 226 utility vehicles, 12 MIM-72 Chaparral surface-to-air missile systems, 3 MIM-23 Hawk surface-to-air missile systems, 36 155 mm artillery pieces, 7 175 mm artillery pieces, large quantities of 105 mm, 155 mm and 175 mm ammunition, state of the art equipment, such as the AGM-65 Maverick missile and the BGM-71 TOW, weapons that had only entered production one or more years prior, as well as highly advanced electronic jamming equipment. Most of the combat airplanes arrived during the war, and many were taken directly from United States Air Force units. Most of the large equipment arrived after the ceasefire. The total cost of the equipment was approximately US$800 million (US$4.26 billion today).[304][305][307][308]

On October 13 and 15, Egyptian air defense radars detected an aircraft at an altitude of 25,000 metres (82,000 ft) and a speed of Mach 3, making it impossible to intercept either by fighter or SAM missiles. The aircraft proceeded to cross the whole of the canal zone, the naval ports of the Red Sea (Hurghada and Safaga), flew over the airbases and air defenses in the Nile delta, and finally disappeared from radar screens over the Mediterranean Sea. The speed and altitude were those of the U.S. SR-71 Blackbird, a long-range strategic-reconnaissance aircraft. According to Egyptian commanders, the intelligence provided by the reconnaissance flights helped the Israelis prepare for the Egyptian attack on October 14 and assisted it in conducting Operation Stouthearted Men.[309][310][311]

How Richard Nixon Helped Save Israel | Jewish & Israel News ...
https://www.algemeiner.com/.../exclusive-how-richard-nixon-help...

Learn a thing or two before talking.

My point was Egyptians like you should be the last person to talk against Israel fighting similar terrorist groups in the regiowhoch isnt any different from the Islamic TERRORIST groups you claim you fight.

Like I said Egypt removed Hamas from the terrorist list.

We have never killed a Single hamas member nor launched a single rocket into gaza, We accept People from Gaza to cross our borders dumbass. We aren't fighting the same Islamic terrorist groups so remove that from your head.

. You and Israel should be cooperating in fighting against these Islamist terror groups like you have been doing .

We will never ever HELP Israel in anything on the ground or any fighting, Israel has murdered 20,000 Egyptians in their wars of aggression, No Egyptian government will ever help Israel fight anything.

 

[Ceylal]

Arabs officials at Peres funerals
in the bubble: Here, help me dig out this Palestinian

Several Arab State at Shimon Peres Funeral
in the bubble: We almost didn't make it..We consulted all the Algerian geographical maps, we couldn't locate Israel

 

[mike2000 is back]

View attachment 340878
Arabs officials at Peres funerals
in the bubble: Here, help me dig out this Palestinian

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in the bubble: We almost didn't make it..We consulted all the Algerian geographical maps, we couldn't locate IsraelView attachment 340880
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I even forgot about this thread until I was notified you attached a filed to this thread, kind of weird since you didn't quote me or tag me. Those that quoted me on recently I haven't been receiving any notification about that.

As for your point, I can at least agree with you, since Algeria has been consistent in walking the talk and maintaining its position. Seeing an Egyptian talk about this situation is a big joke and hypocrisy at its best(probably because he is enjoying his life in the U.S not in Egypt itself. Lol), since they are also blockading Gaza and they are very much wary of HAMAS(an offshoot of the MB which they despise), fighting a mini war in Sinai against those they call terrorists(Israel also clains it's fighting terrorists endangering it's security) while at the same time their military dictorship is suppressing and killing their "Muslim brotherhood brothers" like never before in Egyptian history(not even under Mubarak were they hunted as such).lol. They should have joins hands together with MB/Hamas and other Islamic groups and build a pure Muslim/Islamic state country in Egypt, which will oppose ISRAELI "oppression" in the region. lol. Yet they are instead fighting the MB and other Islamic groups. Lol.
Not that I'm crying or feel any sympathy towards the MB, I am just making a point and exposing hypocrites. You can't eat your cake and have it .

If anything Egypt and Israel are very similar in their approach in fighting terrorists in the region. Egyptian so called American should be the last to comment against Israeli actions.

 

[Ceylal]

I even forgot about this thread until I wa notified you attached a filed to this thread, kind of weird since you didn't quote me or tag me. Those that quoted me on here recently I haven't been receiving any notification about that.

I don't know why that happens, that PDF's many wonders

As for your point, I can at least agree with you, since Algeria has been consistent in walking the talk. Seeing an Egyptian talk about this situation is a big joke, since they are also blockading Gaza and they are very much wary of HAMAS(an offshoot of the MB which they despise), fighting a mini war in Sinai against those they call terrorists(Israel also clains it's fighting terrorists endangering it's security) while at the same time their military dictorshiop is suppressing and killing their "Muslim brotherhood brothers" like never before in Egyptian history(not even under Mubarak were they hunted as such).
If anything Egypt and Israel are very similar in their approach in fighting terrorists in the region. Egyptian so called American should be the last to comment against Israeli actions.

Agree with you. That was my point exactly.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

As for your point, I can at least agree with you, since Algeria has been consistent in walking the talk and maintaining its position. Seeing an Egyptian talk about this situation is a big joke and hypocrisy at its best(probably because he is enjoying his life in the U.S not in Egypt itself. Lol)

WOW are you really that butthurt?


This Egyptian is not the Egyptian government idiot, I don't blame you for Tony blairs crimes. Also did we not go over this, Why are bringing up where I live? Ceylal lives in America he knows his tax money goes to Israel that makes him a hyprocrite too.

, since they are also blockading Gaza and they are very much wary of HAMAS(an offshoot of the MB which they despise), fighting a mini war in Sinai against those they call terrorists(Israel also clains it's fighting terrorists endangering it's security)

Yes we are blockading Gaza, but we do not hate Hamas. Israel isn't fighting anything in the Sinai so please cut the BS.

while at the same time their military dictorship is suppressing and killing their "Muslim brotherhood brothers" like never before in Egyptian history(not even under Mubarak were they hunted as such).lol.

Did we not go over why they are being hunted? Please I do not want to talk to terrorists so just say you are an MB supporter.

They should have joins hands together with MB/Hamas and other Islamic groups and build a pure Muslim/Islamic state country in Egypt

I wonder how much these guys would love to make an Islamic state in Britain.





Please go bring your BS elsewhere.

hich will oppose ISRAELI "oppression" in the region. lol. Yet they are instead fighting the MB and other Islamic groups. Lol.
Not that I'm crying or feel any sympathy towards the MB, I am just making a point and exposing hypocrites. You can't eat your cake and have it .

How am I a hypocrite? Last time I checked I wasn't the president of Egypt idiot, Like you said I live in the U.S not Egypt.

If anything Egypt and Israel are very similar in their approach in fighting terrorists in the region. Egyptian so called American should be the last to comment against Israeli actions.

Considering that this entire mess is thanks to britian and their colonization and creation of Israel should be the last one supporting the MB and should be the last one calling people hypocrites.

Also the Algerian should be the last one to talk.

 

[Ceylal]

We will never ever HELP Israel in anything on the ground or any fighting, Israel has murdered 20,000 Egyptians in their wars of aggression, No Egyptian government will ever help Israel fight anything.

Really? Then tell us brainic, why the closing of Rafah and the flooding of the tunnels...Egypt is not only helping Israel, it became Israel itself, Gazans can even differentiate between the two

Ceylal lives in America he knows his tax money goes to Israel that makes him a hyprocrite too.

there isn't much I can do, Israel and Egypt both share my hard earned cents. One vote doesn't count much, because neither one of the countries deserve any gratitude from the world at large..But Mike is addressing the action of Egyptian government, not your actions. Unlike you, I am not a hypocrite and Algeria is not a hypocrite country either toward Israel. It hasn't and will never recognize Israel as a state until the Palestine question is solved. And if Algeria had a full diplomatic relation with Israel, it won't be hiding the Israeli Embassy like Egypt does. That what hypocrisy is..Egypt signed a peace deal, fuc..ked the Palestinian and the Syrian from regaining their respective lands, yet it is ashamed by being associated[ more likely , used ads a buffon by] with Israel.

Yes we are blockading Gaza, but we do not hate Hamas. Israel isn't fighting anything in the Sinai so please cut the BS.

If Egypt doesn't hate them, why blockading them and starving them, only psychopath act that way! or is it doing it for the $1.3 B it receive from the US? or it is just a matter of self preservation from an Israeli blow up!

Also the Algerian should be the last one to talk.

The day that you can give us an opinion that is devoid of stupidities...I will quit dissing you...

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Really? Then tell us brainic, why the closing of Rafah and the flooding of the tunnels...Egypt is not only helping Israel, it became Israel itself, Gazans can even differentiate between the two

gazans can clearly tell the diffrence, Egypt closes tunnels, Israel kills Hamas and children which Egypt does not.

there isn't much I can do, Israel and Egypt both share my hard earned cents. One vote doesn't count much, because neither one of the countries deserve any gratitude from the world at large..But Mike is addressing the action of Egyptian government, not your actions.

He is literally talking like I'm the Egyptian government which I am not, If I was president I would be doing a completely diffrent policy then Sissi.

Unlike you, I am not a hypocrite and Algeria is not a hypocrite country either toward Israel. It hasn't and will never recognize Israel as a state until the Palestine question is solved.

Once again acting like I'm the Egyptian government. How am I a hyprocrite? Please explain

Also if Algeria will never recognize then why do you say Algeria has no complex against Israel?

it won't be hiding the Israeli Embassy like Egypt does. That what hypocrisy is..Egypt signed a peace deal, fuc..ked the Palestinian and the Syrian from regaining their respective lands

F*cked? Are you an Idiot? Is 20,000 dead Egyptians not enough for you spoiled idiots? I'm sorry but we SAVED the Syrians we sacrificed our advantage because Syria pressured Egypt to save Syria.

from regaining their respective lands

It was Syrian and Palestinian incomptence that lead to them failing to regain their lands. We fought hard and got ours back. Did Syrians do so? NOPE they advanced a couple miles in the Golan and stopped despite the fact that they could keep going. Palestinians were fine with sitting back and enjoying the view.

yet it is ashamed by being associated[ more likely , used ads a buffon by] with Israel.

Egyptians hate Israel, we will never be associated with Israel. We have a treaty out of necessity.

If Egypt doesn't hate them, why blockading them and starving them, only psychopath act that way! or is it doing it for the $1.3 B it receive from the US? or it is just a matter of self preservation from an Israeli blow up!

Israeli blow up? Whats that supposed to mean?

The day that you can give us an opinion that is devoid of stupidities...I will quit dissing you...

Then what is an opinion that is devoid of all stupidities? the one where I lick all Agerians shoes and beg all great and glorious Algeria to save us from Israel? Bro please stop, your acting wayyyyyyy too crazy.