Sheikh Mujib brutality

[Bratva]

Liaqat Ali Khan, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and Zia-ul-Haq all were killed. So, what is your point?

Liaquat ali Khan was killed by an afghani citizen and it was foriegn conspiracy to assiassinate him. He wasn't killed by it's OWN PEOPLE. Bhutto was hanged because he killed someone, just like your courts hanged the Old jamati leader so does it mean bangla killed him as well? Zia ul haq was killed by foriegn powers. Case of exploding mangoes.

But Mujeeb ur rehman was killed by it's very own people whom he liberated, Why is that ?. Pray tell us when you are so ardently convicting Jamati leaders for their 71 role why Awami government hasn't pursued judicial cases against those who killed Mujeeb whole family ?

 

[EasyNow]

My brother, Bangladesh has been growing faster than Pakistan since 1972 as you've clearly stated, that's 43-years so far and counting, yet Bangladesh's GDP still lags behind Pakistan.

Which part of the growth you don't understand? You mention Bangladesh's "other" indicators which will somehow surpass Pakistan's GDP in Bangladeshi dreams but what about Pakistan's "other" indicators?

The Secret Strength of Pakistan's Economy - Businessweek

Have you ever wondered how the Islamic Republic of Pakistan manages to employee 1,451,000 personel for it's Armed Forces with an $11 billion budget, hold huge stocks of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles and fight wars with super powers despite it's GDP growth rate is lower than Bangladesh?

We lag behind because we started from behind - can't you understand that the gap is getting smaller? At this rate, its only a matter of time until we reach your GDP.

But the real point is, it isn't a competition. I honestly don't mind if Pak quadruples it's GDP, i only care that BD stays prosperous. I can't open your eyes for you, but you should be thinking about your economy.

 

[Hiptullha]

Liaqat Ali Khan, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and Zia-ul-Haq all were killed. So, what is your point?

Look at the facts yourself. Liaquat was the leader of a country embroiled in the Cold War. He was not keen to facilitate the Soviet Union and was against the Afghan idea of Pakhtoonistan. Later on in his career, he was less attached to the US, and they were also pretty heavy-handed in their tactics.

Zulfikar Ali Bhutto was an authoritarian leader who became unpopular with both the leftists and the religious parties.

Zia-ul-Haq? You've got to be kidding me. Involved in the shadowy world of the CIA and funding militants against the occupation of one of the most powerful nations in the world at that time? He was asking for whatever happened to him.

 

[Cyberian]

We lag behind because we started from behind - can't you understand that the gap is getting smaller? At this rate, its only a matter of time until we reach your GDP. ...

What was the Bangladeshi/Pakistani GDP in 1972-1975 and what was it in 2013? Was the gap bigger in 1972 or in 2013.

Source of the above data can be found here: List of countries by past and future GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Mattrixx]

Sheikh Mujib started a great job by eliminating leftist terrorists clan. But he should have properly destroyed the jamaat clan too.
If he had done his job properly then ISI,CIA sponsored jamaat brethren fraction group from Army could never kill our great leader.
History always praises our great leaders like Siraj ud daula who had lacking in many ways but its the Mir zafars who we hate.

 

[Contrarian]

We lag behind because we started from behind - can't you understand that the gap is getting smaller? At this rate, its only a matter of time until we reach your GDP.

But the real point is, it isn't a competition. I honestly don't mind if Pak quadruples it's GDP, i only care that BD stays prosperous. I can't open your eyes for you, but you should be thinking about your economy.

There is one key factor that SUPARCO and you are missing. Pakistan gets billions of dollars of aid from US each year. Every time a dictator came in Pakistan, he got Pakistan more billions by doing US bidding. No other country in South Asia gets this kind of aid per capita!

 

[Jobless Jack]

I'm not an A Leaguer. What you have said is true but you are colouring it with your prejudice. Yes SM tried in many instances not to break up Pak, it was Pak intransigence that led to the inevitable conflict.

So will you now accept that in that whole mess, SM was one of the few trying to be fair? Razakar are the BD collaborators who turned on their people even in the face of injustice. Bhutto and no other Pakistani can be termed razakar because they were diligently serving their people's interest.



Don't confuse a desire for peaceful growth with a lack of ambition. There is more money floating around in BD than you can imagine, hundreds and hundreds of Pakistani's have invested millions here too.

Mujib might have been trying to be fair but his example of leadership is the reason we are in mess today .

 

[khair_ctg]

What happened between time span of 1971-1975 that founder of the nation killed by his own army?

many Bangladeshis came to their senses, but it wasn't enough

 

[EasyNow]

There is one key factor that SUPARCO and you are missing. Pakistan gets billions of dollars of aid from US each year. Every time a dictator came in Pakistan, he got Pakistan more billions by doing US bidding. No other country in South Asia gets this kind of aid per capita!

I was trying to skirt this issue as it's quite sensitive - the foreign debt comparisons are quite clear cut too - but people will see what they want to see i suppose.

 

[khair_ctg]

Pakistan has its geopolitical problems that Bangladesh doesn't. Bangladesh has its own problems (especially the India problem) that Pakistan doesn't.

it is fact that Bangladesh started from far below in 1947. however, West Pakistan/Pakistan and East Pakistan/Bangladesh have both been steadily growing since then. Pakistan landmass had been higher GDP/capita and it still is, and it will be for a long time.

1947-1971 saw a lot of synergy between the economies of the two wings of United Pakistan. India has constantly tried to disrupt any such thing, and they achieved a breakthrough in 1971. the former two wings could have still complemented each other the way they used to. and that would have been beneficial for both the Bangladesh and Pakistan economies, and we would have seen both economies much stronger than they are

Uff! you are really pushing me to break it to you, so here goes:

1. Pakistan started off with more wealth and resources than BD because the total wealth of united Pak was held in West Pak.

wth did i just read!

They chose to live under Constitutional rule as opposed to a West Pakistani colony which till today treats Constitution as a piece of paper.
They had the right idea. And they have been far better off for it.

they chose to live as a sovereign Muslim country in 1947, not as an Indian colony

 

[EasyNow]

Pakistan has its geopolitical problems that Bangladesh doesn't. Bangladesh has its own problems (especially the India problem) that Pakistan doesn't.

it is fact that Bangladesh started from far below in 1947. however, West Pakistan/Pakistan and East Pakistan/Bangladesh have both been steadily growing since then. Pakistan landmass had been higher GDP/capita and it still is, and it will be for a long time.

1947-1971 saw a lot of synergy between the economies of the two wings of United Pakistan. India has constantly tried to disrupt any such thing, and they achieved a breakthrough in 1971. the former two wings could have still complemented each other the way they used to. and that would have been beneficial for both the Bangladesh and Pakistan economies, and we would have seen both economies much stronger than they are

wth did i just read!

That is the problem, you read it but are you capable of comprehending it? Maybe the authors below will explain it better.


Conflict in East Pakistan
Authors:
[1] Edward S. Mason, Lamont University Professor Emeritus, Harvard University.
[2] Robert Dorfman, Professor of Economics, Harvard University.
[3] Stephen A. Marlin, Professor of Economics Harvard University
Some excerpts:

The basic facts seem to support the East Pakistani charge of economic domination by the West. The economic disparities between East and West Pakistan have been so serious for so long that the Pakistan Government's highest planning authority has been forced to take official not of them...

East Pakistan blame three instruments of the Central Government for their plight:-

1. Pakistan's scant investible resources, plus foreign aid, are directed unduly to the development of West Pakistan - to the comparative neglect of East Pakistan
2. In particular, East Pakistan's foreign trade earning are diverted to finance imports for West Pakistan.
3. Economic policy favors West Pakistan at the expense of East Pakistan. Specifically, tariffs, import controls, and industrial licensing compel East Pakistan to purchase commodities from West Pakistan which, but for the controls could be obtained more cheaply in world markets.

Does that make it clearer? Your razakar mullahs have been lying to you and selling you out.

 

[That Guy]

I have said many times before that WP-EP was an alliance born to fail - so if you can see that why can't the BD fanboys who want to unbirth the resulting country?

And FYI the tale of losing sovereignty to India is the lullaby told by Jamaati mullahs to their children. Its the biggest joke that only non-BD's put stock in. You really think our economy is going so well, we are monopolising the garment sector, we have one of the highest Forex reserves in the region and it is happening with India's blessing? We are what we are and we are trying to make it work, don't fall the conspiracy BS.

One need only to look at recent events, and how much influence India has in BD to know the truth, I care little for what people think, all I care about are facts.

 

[EasyNow]

One need only to look at recent events, and how much influence India has in BD to know the truth, I care little for what people think, all I care about are facts.

Which recent events and which facts?

We have had a military dictatorship before, we've had rigged elections before, we've even forced re-elections before. So why this time is it an Indian win?

Every government in Bd has had excellent relations with India. The fact is none before AL had the nerve to take India to court over a 25 year old matter. Our chief investor today is China, Indias regional rival.

I suspect the only relationship with India that would not be suspicious to some is war. I'm sorry it isn't a them or us scenario.

Unfortunately, Pakistan gets most of it's info on Bd from jamaati sources. Again I have to ask you to stand back and look at the facts without prejudice.

 

[Green Arrow]

One need only to look at recent events, and how much influence India has in BD to know the truth, I care little for what people think, all I care about are facts.

Sir, I think before 1971, there were no BD-India border clashes and there were no illegal migrant issues as we see it today

 

[idune]

Self declared killer of Siraj Sikdar and father of nation



Siraj Sikdar was killed infront of Sk Mujib by his direct order,Mujib is a self declared killer of a political figure who has protest against the corruption, nepotism and suppression by Sk Mujib his relatives and loyalist the famous Rakkhi bahini.

Mujib did not want independance of Bangladesh ,he only wanted to be PM of Pakistan by doing so he would not have made any change to poor people of the then East Pakistan rather enrich himself again through corruption and nepotism.So Mujib is technically not the founding father of Bangladesh.

Ofcourse he is a politician and that too by profession not by passion.

The way Joinal Hazari or Falu Mia has become a figure in politic Mujib initial role was as a thug leader.

He is the only in the family with fame and money which he had earned through the most lucrative profession politics of corruption and exploitation in his younger days.

People of Mujib's time always regards Mujib as a fist fighter, left hand of Sharwardy used mainly to terrorize opponents inside the party, opportunist, a low grade ambitious thug come leader.

Politics has given Mujib wealth popularity Power and place in history ,he has not contributed much accept exploitation of the innocent people with false promises, earn money through corruption and illegal connections.

So what has Sk Mujib sacrifice for the country. Mujib is lucky to be in the high middle class I am sure his father was a poor maybe honorable average Bangali man.Mujib had bypassed lot of more efficient and qualified leaders of his time both in regards to educational background and smartness of his time and honest contribution to community and country.

Politic made Mujib rich which was his ambition not through proper channel but by flattery, thugism and manipulation.

Compare him to political leaders like Mr Buddodev the chief minister of West Bengal his family status

financially hasn't changed at all through politics , he came to politics through his educational background and proper promotion in the party.

Mujib has not sacrificed for the country but the country had to suffered a lot.More qualified were forcefully removed by the Mujib conspiracy who would have put Bangladesh in much better position than now where it stands now after 36 yrs of independance.

With the alleged background Mujib don't stand a chance to be a national leader but a national thug.

We don't want to make an self declared killer of Siraj Sikdar to be our father of nation.

Leader lives in the heart of people Mujib has never earned that honor or deserved it or cared for it at all.

After Mujib's death people celebrated with joy because Mujib died as a dictator and corrupt leader who brought more poverty and disaster for the people inorder to establish his dynastic rule and personal thug life style.

Today I am happy to see daughter who has come forward and reopened the suppressed murder case of her father a talented leader and meritorious Engineer from a more sophisticated family.

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