Shashi Tharoor Vs Vikram Sampath: Debating Heritage, History & Hubris | India Today Conclave 2021

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Shashi Tharoor Vs Vikram Sampath: Debating Heritage, History & Hubris | India Today Conclave 2021

 

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Shashi Tharoor Vs Vikram Sampath: Debating Heritage, History & Hubris | India Today Conclave 2021

first get rid of british given name 'india', then talk about heritage....

 

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Will watch this later, these can be good debates, the Swamy vs Owaisi ones were fun.

first get rid of british given name 'india', then talk about heritage....

Bharat, Hindustan.. we have other names. The national anthem doesn't mention 'India'.

 

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Will watch this later, these can be good debates, the Swamy vs Owaisi ones were fun.


Bharat, Hindustan.. we have other names. The national anthem doesn't mention 'India'.

Peter pappu poppat. Ur known to world as peter your official name is india. You are known in the world as india...

 

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What a ridiculous topic.

 

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I think India is not British given name. Hind sa ind name dainay walon sa H nhi bola jata hoga

hind is not equal to india.. india is a british word..
Hind is the old persian word for the original name sind

 

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first get rid of british given name 'india', then talk about heritage....

Why not get rid of the persian name Pakistan then? Something indigenous .

 

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Why not get rid of the persian name Pakistan then? Something indigenous .

That's a weak one but understandable as you dont know history of pakistan and like every dumb simp today youthinks it was a part of india.A large chunk of present day pakistan was part of the very first Persian empire(Acheamanid), the region was under influence of the lingo for centuries due to proximity and later the modern khorasani persian(mostly during medieval and the conquest era upto mughals.


Secondly Pakistan was not a name given to us by an outsider. Unlike your case.
Learn the difference.

 

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Different languages bolnay walay aik hi word differently pronounce krtay hain aik hi word ha

It's not about pronounciation nor it's the same word. It's the etymology..Anglo Saxons made a version of the name for themselves that suited their language..its called an exonym a name used by foreigners for a place.

 

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That's a weak one but understandable as you dont know history of pakistan and like every dumb simp today youthinks it was a part of india.A large chunk of present day pakistan was part of the very first Persian empire(Acheamanid), the region was under influence of the lingo for centuries due to proximity and later the modern khorasani persian(mostly during medieval and the conquest era upto mughals.


Secondly Pakistan was not a name given to us by an outsider. Unlike your case.
Learn the difference.

Yea India is so much worse for it , a name makes or breaks a country.

Pakistan seems to be doing great under that glorious name, you leaders must be proud ,It completely exemplifies the state in all it glory.

I mean whew , who knows what might have happened if they were more focused on other thing, than thinking of a glorious name.

I must say Pakistani priorities are classy.

India with its multiple names for multiple dialects is just a monstrosity , No clear identity. India is just sad really.

 

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Yea India is so much worse for it , a name makes or breaks a country.

Pakistan seems to be doing great under that glorious name, you leaders must be proud ,It completely exemplifies the state in all it glory.

I mean whew , who knows what might have happened if they were more focused on other thing, than thinking of a glorious name.

I must say Pakistani priorities are classy.

India with its multiple names for multiple dialects is just a monstrosity , No clear identity. India is just sad really.

Dear, we are not glossy over it.. just answering a troll who tried to do the usual whataboutism instead of acknowledging a very bitter reality. India sold itself to the world based on a history which was never there in their country.. indus doesnt go through india. The indus valley mainly exists here in Pakistan. But they had wanted to compete with other great civilizations around like persia arabia china etc. So they found this an easy way out.This is why these talking heads in the OP are talking about heritage yet oblivious or knowingly ignoring the main underlying contradiction..

Many indians dont even know this that the congress party was born out of the British Fabian society..Nehru drew his ideology from the british socialist paradigm unlike jinnah who wanted a presidential form of an islamic republic eventhough he also came out of the British system.

 

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Peter pappu poppat. Ur know world as peter your official name is india. You are known in the world as india...

fine by us, we're India then.

 

[Splurgenxs]

Dear, we are not glossy over it.. just answering a troll who tried to do the usual whataboutism instead of acknowledging a very bitter reality. India sold itself to the world based on a history which was never there in their country.. indus doesnt go through india. The indus valley mainly exists here in Pakistan. But they had wanted to compete with other great civilizations around like persia arabia china etc. So they found this an easy way out.This is why these talking heads in the OP are talking about heritage yet oblivious or knowingly ignoring the main underlying contradiction..

Many indians dont even know this that the congress party was born out of the British Fabian society..Nehru drew his ideology from the british socialist paradigm unlike jinnah who wanted a presidential form of an islamic republic eventhough he also came out of the British system.

Yes you are right.

 

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first get rid of british given name 'india', then talk about heritage....

No we will keep the name. You can continue to be butthurt about it.

 

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fine by us, we're India then.

The whole indian conversation is around mughals ghoris and ghaznavid.. what about the indo scythian and kushan invasion of present day india.. indo scythians actually were destroyers of the vedic belief.they were not muslims. Southern indians have similar grudges against northern indians. all these invasions were more about resources or political power. Indian muslims will continue hailing a foreign occupier because as minority that's their only defence mechanism. If you want to completely get rid of them make them a new country , dont try to convert them to obey hindutva it will be detrimental to india..A foreign occupier should be looked at without emotions and they should be consided a part of history and lessons should be learnt out of history.. an invasion can be good or bad for locals.it's a matter of perspective. Invasions on a local tyrant ruler were always welcomed by Indians.. ..back in day they invaded with swords today they invade with trade and capital.

No we will keep the name. You can continue to be butthurt about it.

Lol.. what butthurt.. makes no difference to my health.