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Aren't most of the Hungarians majority region lying deep inside Romania, can they even dream about pulling out the independence.

Sometimes I think we should give them independence,get the romanians out of there and cut the communication ,see how they get along.They're allready the most poor regions in Romania and they had the hungarian party in the rulling coalitions of power from 1990 up until 2012.But you're right,the ideea is ridiculous ,that doesn't stop the nut jobs though.

@flamer84
Alot of Turks and Hungarians support idea of Turanism,go to wiki for more information.

And if you start to read Jobbik idea about Hungarian future you will see that they prefer 2+1 countries policy,Russia and Turkey + Germany.
Russia represents most powerful country in Europe and potential good alliance with Hungary,Turkey represents same roots(by Turan idea,btw they think that Western Europe make enemies between them and Ottomans back in Middle Age),and fast growing economy that can help Hungary,and Germany represents most powerful EU country with historical good relations with Hungary.

But what to expect from people who say"Whole Slovakia is ours,25% of Romania,1/3 of Serbia and 1/5 of Austria and one part of western Ukraine."
They want war,not all Hungarians but 30% of them (all Jobbik supporters).

Yeah i know about Turanism and their affiliation with Turkey ,i wonder how many turks are interested in this @Sinan

Well my friend,war they can't have,not only that this is not acceptable in Europe but even in the weak state our army is it would still steamroll that police force they call an army in Hungary and the whole sharade would be over in days.But they still go around in Europe and especially in the US congress with all sorts of claims with "hungarians are discriminated",etc,etc while in truth they do everything to provoke :Guy gets beaten on Romanian National Day for wearing a romanian flag,city hall in a hungarian majority town takes down the romanian flag and flies the hungarian one,marches with shoutings "independence !,out with the romanians",girl is thrown out of school for wearing a ribbon in romanian flag colours in hungarian majority village.

Now they're very close to Russia,God only knows what's cooking in there especially for us.Two years ago Jobbik members went to Moldova where russian minority had a gathering and cheered a russian polytologist who said that Romania should be disbanded for this region to be happy :Moldova given to the republic of Moldova,Transilvania to Hungary,Banat to Serbia ,Dobrudja to Bulgaria while Muntenia should be made a colony for all the gypsies in Europe. :o:

The Hungarians were expelled. Today almost 40-50% of Hungarians are living outside Hungary because of that treaty that was designed to destroy them. Transilvania was never part of Romania. Nor did Hungarians approve huge parts of their land and people being carved up.

Why don't you back that crap with proofs ?The only minority expelled from Romania were the germans after WW2 (some 500.000).Never the hungarians !! Never and i dare you to proove it ! And they don't make 50% out of Hungary....maybe 20 % of the total and they are a minority in every outside region.Please stop talking nonsense.
 
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@flamer84

Dont despair my friend.Romanian army is too much stronger than Hungarian.Romanian population 20 mln against Hungarian 9-10.
I personally think that Germans prefer more Romania then Hungary.

Remember when Otto Skorzeny went to Hungary to calm down Hungarians after they realized that NaSocialist Germany gonna lose and try to turnover to communism.

We dont want Romanian Banat!!!!! We would chop off our hand than take Banat from Romania.We just want to protect our borders and go prosperity.
 
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Sometimes I think we should give them independence,get the romanians out of there and cut the communication ,see how they get along.They're allready the most poor regions in Romania and they had the hungarian party in the rulling coalitions of power from 1990 up until 2012.But you're right,the ideea is ridiculous ,that doesn't stop the nut jobs though.



Yeah i know about Turanism and their affiliation with Turkey ,i wonder how many turks are interested in this @Sinan

Well my friend,war they can't have,not only that this is not acceptable in Europe but even in the weak state our army is it would still steamroll that police force they call an army in Hungary and the whole sharade would be over in days.But they still go around in Europe and especially in the US congress with all sorts of claims with "hungarians are discriminated",etc,etc while in truth they do everything to provoke :Guy gets beaten on Romanian National Day for wearing a romanian flag,city hall in a hungarian majority town takes down the romanian flag and flies the hungarian one,marches with shoutings "independence !,out with the romanians",girl is thrown out of school for wearing a ribbon in romanian flag colours in hungarian majority village.

Now they're very close to Russia,God only knows what's cooking in there especially for us.Two years ago Jobbik members went to Moldova where russian minority had a gathering and cheered a russian polytologist who said that Romania should be disbanded for this region to be happy :Moldova given to the republic of Moldova,Transilvania to Hungary,Banat to Serbia ,Dobrudja to Bulgaria while Muntenia should be made a colony for all the gypsies in Europe. :o:



Why don't you back that crap with proofs ?The only minority expelled from Romania were the germans after WW2 (some 500.000).Never the hungarians !! Never and i dare you to proove it ! And they don't make 50% out of Hungary....maybe 20 % of the total and they are a minority in every outside region.Please stop talking nonsense.

Check hungarian census before the romanian anexation...it gave 55% romanians in Transilvania and you can be sure it was a biased census from the hungarian part.
 
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Sometimes I think we should give them independence,get the romanians out of there and cut the communication ,see how they get along.They're allready the most poor regions in Romania and they had the hungarian party in the rulling coalitions of power from 1990 up until 2012.But you're right,the ideea is ridiculous ,that doesn't stop the nut jobs though.



Yeah i know about Turanism and their affiliation with Turkey ,i wonder how many turks are interested in this @Sinan

Well my friend,war they can't have,not only that this is not acceptable in Europe but even in the weak state our army is it would still steamroll that police force they call an army in Hungary and the whole sharade would be over in days.But they still go around in Europe and especially in the US congress with all sorts of claims with "hungarians are discriminated",etc,etc while in truth they do everything to provoke :Guy gets beaten on Romanian National Day for wearing a romanian flag,city hall in a hungarian majority town takes down the romanian flag and flies the hungarian one,marches with shoutings "independence !,out with the romanians",girl is thrown out of school for wearing a ribbon in romanian flag colours in hungarian majority village.

Now they're very close to Russia,God only knows what's cooking in there especially for us.Two years ago Jobbik members went to Moldova where russian minority had a gathering and cheered a russian polytologist who said that Romania should be disbanded for this region to be happy :Moldova given to the republic of Moldova,Transilvania to Hungary,Banat to Serbia ,Dobrudja to Bulgaria while Muntenia should be made a colony for all the gypsies in Europe. :o:



Why don't you back that crap with proofs ?The only minority expelled from Romania were the germans after WW2 (some 500.000).Never the hungarians !! Never and i dare you to proove it ! And they don't make 50% out of Hungary....maybe 20 % of the total and they are a minority in every outside region.Please stop talking nonsense.

what is turanism?
 
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@flamer84

Dont despair my friend.Romanian army is too much stronger than Hungarian.Romanian population 20 mln against Hungarian 9-10.
I personally think that Germans prefer more Romania then Hungary.

Remember when Otto Skorzeny went to Hungary to calm down Hungarians after they realized that NaSocialist Germany gonna lose and try to turnover to communism.

We dont want Romanian Banat!!!!! We would chop off our hand than take Banat from Romania.We just want to protect our borders and go prosperity.

What worries me is that provocations will c ontinue,we'll send the police to calm them and than biased media goes full retard against us.It happenned before,it happenned to Serbia.

The quality of Western media coverage of the riots is contested by many Romanians. An often-cited example is the gruesome footage of Mihăilă Cofariu mentioned above who was presented as a Hungarian being beaten by Romanians in the documentary 'And the walls came tumbling down: Bad Neighbours', directed by Peter Swain and produced by ethnic Hungarian Paul Neuberg.[13] According to its director, the filming crew arrived in Transylvania after the events and most footages, including the one of Mihăilă Cofariu, were provided by the Hungarian producer team, who let them believe that Cofariu was in fact a Hungarian being beaten by Romanians.[13] Also, during filming, the crew had no contact at all with any ethnic Romanian, all the documentation being gathered only from Hungarian sources, including some Hungarian contacts from the political scene.[13]

Western media, picking up the story from this documentary, presented the Mihăilă Cofariu footage in the same way, as a Hungarian being beaten by Romanians. This particular disinformation is often used in Romanian media to link various similar cases of anti-Romanian disinformation in Hungarian and Western media

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_clashes_of_Târgu_Mureș#Western_media_involvement

The guy was actually a romanian beaten by hungarians but they've spinned it around.
 
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Hungarians are majority in regions they claim but some jobbik nationalist also claim other regions since they believe it was unfairly given to Romania and Serbia, etc.

Romania is 20 million but huge part of it are Hungarians and others like gypsies. I don't know what percentage are turanist but is growing with the year.

Turanist in Turkey are not busy with Hungarians because they are cut off by land. Their priority lies with uniting with Azerbaijan first.

I have to say that turanism is not black and white. Even davutoglu who is not turanist active wants unification or at least very close ties with Azerbaijan which almost speaks same language.

Turkey also is close to Kazakhstan. Surprisingly most pro Russian Turkic country is also most supporter of turanism. It was Kazakh president who wanted Turkic counsel? They are holding meetings every year in Baku. But before anything can get off the ground there must be economic rise in the region first.

Hungarians never joined these meetings. I wonder if Hungarians are truly turanism supporters or support it for altruistic motives.
 
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@flamer84
I dont think so.
Romania is 20 mln populated country,member of EU,NATO,WTO....
IF they try to put biased media against any country that cant be Romania.
Why?
If political West try to make conflict in their camp that would be a sign of declining Western powers.
Maybe only Hungarians puts money in White House to support their lobby but it would be a own goal by D.C and USA.
Support Hungary against two Nato countries for what?Nothing if you ask me!
 
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@atatwolf 1.2 million hungarian in Romania (6%)...at tops some 800k gypsies ....400k other...88% romanians.

@DejanSRB Yes,you're right but this is a carrot and the stick game from the West .You see,as long as we play along it's all good,if we get a little to much independent for our own good you will see how suddenly they start to notice that suddenly hungarians are discriminated and hold on to your pants then.We're basically prisoners until we have a strong economy,army.But with the current ruling elites....
 
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@atatwolf 1.2 million hungarian in Romania (6%)...at tops some 800k gypsies ....400k other...88% romanians.

@DejanSRB Yes,you're right but this is a carrot and the stick game from the West .You see,as long as we play along it's all good,if we get a little to much independent for our own good you will see how suddenly they start to notice that suddenly hungarians are discriminated and hold on to your pants then.We're basically prisoners until we have a strong economy,army.But with the current ruling elites....
No, Hungarians, gypsies are much more than those numbers you gave. Official statistics say 1. 5 million Hungarians but we all know it is higher and that they form majorities in most regions.

How
Oh! Its related to the so called Aryan migration given by Max Mueller.
how is it the same? You can't compare it to false ideology and label it false without clarification. Hungarians ancestors are Huns, which are also ancestors of modern day Turkics. Language tree is the same branch and there are also a lot of things we share like the name atilla.
 
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No, Hungarians, gypsies are much more than those numbers you gave. Official statistics say 1. 5 million Hungarians but we all know it is higher and that they form majorities in most regions.

How
how is it the same? You can't compare it to false ideology and label it false without clarification. Hungarians ancestors are Huns, which are also ancestors of modern day Turkics. Language tree is the same branch and there are also a lot of things we share like the name atilla.

Jesus tap dancing Christ,are you for real ? We just had a national census in 2011 .Do you think we coould alter the data in the EU with consultants ,etc ? Oficial stats:

a little over 1.2 million hungarians

650 k gypsies........"we all know" doesn't cut it buddy.Whatever you're smoking is interfearing with your posts in here.

Btw,if you're a gypsie it pays to declare yourself as such as you get free college education spots without exams (unlike ethnic romanians) and whole other financial perks with aid money from the state and the EU for them.Bust just to be on the safe side i've said 800k not 650k which declared themselves as such.

Ofcourse a turk from the Netherlands will know better...Gimme' a break !!

BTW,As a fun note we have a high profile hungarian politician in Romania named Verestoy Atilla . He represented so well his hungarian ethnics starting from 1990 by cutting whole forests in hungarian majority areas getting himself rich in the process while the average hungarian stayed poor.We nicknamed him Atilla "the chainsaw of God" if you can catch the sarcasm.:D
 
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Yeah i know about Turanism and their affiliation with Turkey ,i wonder how many turks are interested in this @Sinan

Lets put it this way. I would prefer deeper relations with Turkic states rather than ME states.

But i don't support carving each country's Turkic minorities and annex their region into Turkey.
 
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