Seeing China through a Pakistani's eyes

[beijingwalker]

if Vietnam doesnt change its anti China policy,the nation will be crushed in 20-40 years time,no one will and can help them by then,their location means that they always have to bear the mamoth weight of China,they have to live with China next door and there's nowhere they can run or hide.

 

[beijingwalker]

..looks like JayAtl was banned for speaking the uncomfortable truth .... let me salute him

Somebody wake me up when china will allow pakistani's to enter their country without visa like the 'White' Americans, europeans and British whom the chinese claim to hate

Who told you that Americans can come to China without a visa??actually now the government is waging a compaign to round up and expatriate those white trash.

 

[beijingwalker]

US realized that China was too big to ignore,that's why their then secetary of the state and president went to Pakistan for help and secretly flew to China many times to pay their tribute to Mao,from the photo everyone can see Nixon was wearing a big flattering smile and barely sitting on the edge of his China when talking with Mao.

We don´t need to do anything, China will collapse alone without our help as we saw many times in the past. Pls don´t come and ask for shelter next time like you did after the collapse of the Ming Dynasty.

You talk big,midget,lol,let's wait and see..

 

[Sugarcane]

..looks like JayAtl was banned for speaking the uncomfortable truth .... let me salute him

Somebody wake me up when china will allow pakistani's to enter their country without visa like the 'White' europeans and British whom the chinese claim to hate

BTW - People living near China's border have the passes (not visas) and they can go to China - I know this because i had class fallow who belongs to that area and i used to ask he to bring electronic products whenever he goes there. (However i don't know this facility is still there or not)

Anyway, What's problem with getting Permission(Visa) before entering into someones home, In our country we even knock the door of our parents room (ask permission) before entering - don't know what are the customs of our eastern neighbor. And the visa policy you are barbing about is for tourists who use China as transit - And no Pakistani use China as transit so this favor is of no use for Pakistan. Now go out in open air with your pants down to sooth your burning place.

EDIT: I am in favor of more strict Visa policy and border policing specially with China, To control nut cases or false flaggers from doing anything which can create problem/misunderstanding in the Sino-Pak relations

 

[Hasbara Buster]

..looks like JayAtl was banned for speaking the uncomfortable truth .... let me salute him

Somebody wake me up when china will allow pakistani's to enter their country without visa like the 'White' europeans and British whom the chinese claim to hate

This is kind of odd coming from an Indian because I've never come across a people so pro-western as Indians.

 

[skyknight]

I cannot wait to watch it and translate it to Chinese and uploaed it to Youku and Tudou...

 

[skyknight]

Didn't Americans saved you too from Japanese during second world war and took a great risk in constructing Stillwell road with huge loss of human lives.

Do you love Americans now.

China-America relation is much more complicated than you can think, no single word such as 'love' or 'hate'can describe it.
In the WW2 China alone were dealing with more than 4 million Japanese army, which gives the America considerable latitude to focus in the Eroup warfield.
During the WW2 America gived much more assistance to Soveit, need Soviet say thanks? They were saving each other!

Of course Chinese people are grateful to all the people and nations who helped China,Not only those brave American and Soviet pilotes who helped China during the Anti- Japan war are still remembered and hornored by Chinese nowadays, an Indian doctor too is on the Chinese history text-book.

BTW, when Japan started to invade China in 1931, and until Jpanese attacked the pearl harbor in 1941, the Americans were continuously exports oil and steel to Japn. which was made to weapons to kill Chinese.

 

[skyknight]

BTW - People living near China's border have the passes (not visas) and they can go to China - I know this because i had class fallow who belongs to that area and i used to ask he to bring electronic products whenever he goes there. (However i don't know this facility is still there or not)

Anyway, What's problem with getting Permission(Visa) before entering into someones home, In our country we even knock the door of our parents room (ask permission) before entering - don't know what are the customs of our eastern neighbor. And the visa policy you are barbing about is for tourists who use China as transit - And no Pakistani use China as transit so this favor is of no use for Pakistan. Now go out in open air with your pants down to sooth your burning place.

EDIT: I am in favor of more strict Visa policy and border policing specially with China, To control nut cases or false flaggers from doing anything which can create problem/misunderstanding in the Sino-Pak relations

A famous Chinese travel photographer named 梦野 wrote an interesting thing in his travel log about Pakistan。

http://bbs.tiexue.net/post_5103801_1.html
这里还有一位很巧的事，这是一位我在宾馆里碰到的服务员，他一直在我吃饭的时候过来问长问短的，我开始以为是他们的服务好，后来才知道，他是一个大学生，在宾馆里做散工挣学费的，他非常喜欢中国，他说他叫穆罕穆德，他老家是在一个与中国边界交界的地方叫 Gligit, 他说他到Islamabad读书之前经常在老家中巴边界玩，中国边疆的解放军对他们很好，有时候也与他们一起玩，他也给解放军吃过土产。他问我要一个邮箱地址，想与我经常联系。
我给他拍了一张照片，说好过几天寄给他。

The young guy in the photo is a college student taking a part-time job in the hotel，his hometown is very close to the China-Pakistan border。He said the PLA soldiers are very nice to them and sometime play with them，He sent PLA soldiers local foods as present，too
This can only happen in the China-Pakistan border

 

[Thorough Pro]

Friendship can happen only among equals.

We are not talking about Hindu caste system. Pak China friendship is based on mutual trust and respect and similar views on international issues.

 

[IND151]

China Pakistan relation meant to keep India busy with Pakistan away from China. For this they provided Pakistan all type of deadly weapons. But war on terror and India's economic boom failed it, now we are focussing more towards Indo-China border.


Chinese have little investment in Pakistan, while more in Afghanistan. Chinese provided very little monetary aid to Pakistan

That's very correct.

This policy was very successful till early 1990s

WoT and India's rise as major economic power dramatically reduced the effectiveness of the policy(OBAO)

 

[SamranAli]

For Indians..................Its the countries Interest that Matters....................So all countries are our friends...............

Who did ask you to tell that? I think nobody did, so kindly keep india away.

 

[IND151]

China-America relation is much more complicated than you can think, no single word such as 'love' or 'hate'can describe it.
In the WW2 China alone were dealing with more than 4 million Japanese army, which gives the America considerable latitude to focus in the Eroup warfield.
During the WW2 America gived much more assistance to Soveit, need Soviet say thanks? They were saving each other!

Of course Chinese people are grateful to all the people and nations who helped China,Not only those brave American and Soviet pilotes who helped China during the Anti- Japan war are still remembered and hornored by Chinese nowadays, an Indian doctor too is on the Chinese history text-book.

BTW, when Japan started to invade China in 1931, and until Jpanese attacked the pearl harbor in 1941, the Americans were continuously exports oil and steel to Japn. which was made to weapons to kill Chinese.

That Doctor is Dr. Dwarkanath Kotnis.

Dwarkanath Shantaram Kotnis (October 10, 1910 in Solapur, Maharashtra, India – December 9, 1942, in China; Chinese: 柯棣华; pinyin: Kē Dìhuá; Devanagari: द्वारकानाथ शांताराम कोटणी&#2360 was one of five Indian physicians dispatched to China to provide medical assistance during the Second Sino-Japanese War in 1938. Besides being known for his dedication and perseverance, he has also been regarded as an example for Sino-Indian friendship and collaboration.

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rc...kcoAs_phk6CbKwAdY5KBQ&bvm=bv.1355272958,d.aGc

On Topic> Just like other International Relationships, Pak-China Relationship is based on mutual interests,needs of both and common threat(which in this case was, perhaps biggest factor).

 

[skyknight]

No its India. Chinese will fight India till the last Pakistani

It sounds pretty ironic from the mouth of an Indian

 

[Cheetah786]

Gigawatt;3692617]China Pakistan relation meant to keep India busy with Pakistan away from China. For this they provided Pakistan all type of deadly weapons.

Indian economic Boom isn't cause you guys pulled a rabbit out of hat its all about Americans wanting to counter china so they pumped Billions upon Billions into Indian economy. GE financed Most of the commercial ventures in India all cause Americans wanted to counter china via India.

Chinese have little investment in Pakistan, while more in Afghanistan.

L O L i see Indians wont stop at any thing including making up lies as they go along i guess our friendship with china really bothers them.

Chinese have little investment in Pakistan, while more in Afghanistan. Chinese provided very little monetary aid to Pakistan

Chinese help is bit more then you can understand and we are better off without the Monetary Aid.

But war on terror and India's economic boom failed it, now we are focusing more towards Indo-China border.

L O L India's economic boom failed what between china and pakistan name one plus India focusing towards its border with china has what to do with pakistan china friendship.

 

[Cheetah786]

No its India. Chinese will fight India till the last Pakistani

So basically one can say Americans will fight china till last Indian or its different when it comes to India.