SEAL shirt from Bin Laden raid in Pak goes on show

[Indian-Lion]

horus then what do u think was the motive of american choppers in abbotabad that night?

even i think that it was false flag as their is no hard evidence and obama is a muppet i dont trust his words at all

 

[Kompromat]

So; do the ISI and the GoP have something to hide, to suppress from the public?

Yes.

All critical and specific questions remain unanswered. Just like Obama had a tell tale, our govt and Intel did the same. The flow of BS was steady while the flow of useful info was micromanaged.

Apparently both CIA and ISI would have us believe that they were at the odds over this incident, however i'm not entirely convinced by that narrative, having looked at the pattern with which both parties 'contained and mopped up'(In Intel terms) the entire event.

 

[pakdefender]

OBL is officially dead but those who killed him have not been able to offer a single official version of events that finally led to the official killing and of course no photographic evidence of the final moments.

When time permits I will add the different narratives with different number, timing , sound ( gun shots , beep beep , bop bop etc ) quoted by the various members of the team who were, we are told, involved.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Yes.

All critical and specific questions remain unanswered. Just like Obama had a tell tale, our govt and Intel did the same. The flow of BS was steady while the flow of useful info was micromanaged.

Apparently both CIA and ISI would have us believe that they were at the odds over this incident, however i'm not entirely convinced by that narrative, having looked at the pattern with which both parties 'contained and mopped up'(In Intel terms) the entire event

What is all that 'story' supposed to mean??? Care to explain?

 

[Kompromat]

horus then what do u think was the motive of american choppers in abbotabad that night?

even i think that it was false flag as their is no hard evidence and obama is a muppet i dont trust his words at all

Its likely that the individual killed in Abbotabad was OBL, however the feeling i get (not presenting it as a fact) from my own study on this subject is that he was a 'sacrificial lamb' kept safe to be slaughtered at a particular moment to serve the interests of both partisan nations and to have a desired 'trade off' between the two agencies.

The entire event of killing the largest unarmed goldmine of intelligence on terrorist movements, was carefully choreographed and skillfully 'mopped up'.

 

[pakdefender]

Former soldier claims Osama bin Laden was unarmed and already dead or dying when Navy Seals burst into room and shot him

Former soldier claims Osama bin Laden was unarmed and already dead or dying when Navy Seals burst into room and shot him - Americas - World - The Independent

There is plenty more from where that came from

 

[Kompromat]

@pakdefender

All useful info was skillfully filtered out, leaving the public to feed on BS.

 

[VCheng]

@Syed.Ali.Haider
There is no hard evidence present before me to make an informed judgement abot the claims made by Obama, the CIA or ISI.
I'm not ignoring anything as i have nothing presented before me to ignore except media frenzy which is not a valid evidence.
In the end, the Democrats secured another term, US public received a doze of jingoism in return for a decade of paying for the war through their taxes, and the US Generals have managed to avoid total post exit embarrassment.
Not a bad deal at the end..

Like I said before, you are entitled to your views.

Maybe something like a "Death Certificate" spelling out the name, date, time and cause of death (Natural causes or Unnatural causes) etc. etc. signed by a Medical Practioner and with the number of his registry.

There is formal autopsy report too, but it is classified.

Another HRC Report?
And was'nt there a Report on the "Abbottabad Activity" also; which was never released in Pakistan; but leaked by Al-Jazeera ?

There is a lot of hard evidence. Some choose not to accept it. Most do. There is no compulsion here. Facts are facts.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Yet no ''hard evidence'' has been presented to prove OBL's death on this particular date.

unfortunately his life and death will remain a mystery
we will also bring proofs and counter proofs to establish if
what about his security detail? 2 sleeping men with their families that were shot while they slept?
so much for "hiding" Bin Laden and the rest of the neighbours were "shooed" away by a telling off in Pashto by one of the SEALs who woke up to the sounds of the commotion



he was in Abbottabad or not
had he or had he not died already due to Kidney problem (Benazirs interview to David Frost)

and then there is the question about the wives of Bin Laden (why they remain quiet) that were taken into custody by Pakistanis after waking up to the fact that world's most wanted man was (allegedly) living among them

if Pakistanis were colluding or not, why didnt they challenge the American narrative if he wasnt there
why Americans didnt go beyond accusations and suspicions that Pakistani military/ ISI was sheltering him

and why suddenly Americans became so sentimental that they thought showing the dead Bin Laden was a security risk ALTHOUGH.. they did something far more drastic i.e. claimed to have killed the man!! was was more detrimental and risky? a self defeating logic or mind fck? or both?

and then the controversy about gagging rights and selling the story of the operation and the legal notices to the unnamed SEAL..

and whats more? the movie producers get the access to the SEAL team .. and the timing couldnt be more fortunate (one wonders) because apparently the original ending of the movie was planned to be that Osamaba escapes the capture/ death but "somehow" the release got "delayed" and the "actual" operation happened that "helped" the producers to make "essential" alterations


conspiracy
conspiracy
conspiracy

eat what you like fellas... or cry your heart out and say it loud., Nothing comes out but truth from the White House
and those who question the American narrative should be shot on site

 

[cleverrider]

@pakdefender

All useful info was skillfully filtered out, leaving the public to feed on BS.

My perspective is the same - However ISI should have come out and defended Pakistan in one way or another.

 

[VCheng]

unfortunately his life and death will remain a mystery

What do you think about freshly spattered half a brain on the walls and the forensic analysis thereof, Sir?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

ISI collected his alleged wives too, however we don't know their names, images nor their whereabouts...

You aren't trying hard enough
U.S. interviews 'hostile' bin Laden widows, with Pakistan officials - CNN.com

"...The youngest of the three widows, 29-year-old Amal Ahmed Abdulfattah of Yemen, was shot in the leg early on May 2 by a small team of U.S. Navy SEALs. A U.S. official has identified the other two as Khairiah Sabar, also known as "Umm Hamza," and Siham Sabar, or "Umm Khalid."


Bin Laden's Yemeni wife 'now in Saudi' - Yahoo Maktoob News

 

[Irfan Baloch]

What do you think about freshly spattered half a brain on the walls and the forensic analysis thereof, Sir?

whose brain? who knows? Bin Laden family refused to cooperate by sharing dental records or giving DNA sample
can be anyone or maybe him or his butler.

like I said, the act of killing him was far more extreme so the sudden change of heart in sharing his picture or "treasure trove" as claimed was confusing.

 

[Kompromat]

You aren't trying hard enough
U.S. interviews 'hostile' bin Laden widows, with Pakistan officials - CNN.com

"...The youngest of the three widows, 29-year-old Amal Ahmed Abdulfattah of Yemen, was shot in the leg early on May 2 by a small team of U.S. Navy SEALs. A U.S. official has identified the other two as Khairiah Sabar, also known as "Umm Hamza," and Siham Sabar, or "Umm Khalid."


Bin Laden's Yemeni wife 'now in Saudi' - Yahoo Maktoob News

You are not getting into my zone Peter. We were told those details without a shred of actual evidence to convince a critical reader. I'm not saying that it didn't happen. Im just saying that i need to see a verifiable evidence before i believe the story CIA and ISI has cooked up to be fed to the public in the US, Pakistan and other nations.

 

[VCheng]

whose brain? who knows? Bin Laden family refused to cooperate by sharing dental records or giving DNA sample
can be anyone or maybe him or his butler.

like I said, the act of killing him was far more extreme so the sudden change of heart in sharing his picture or "treasure trove" as claimed was confusing.

Sir, the forensic material left at the site and the relatives clearly establish who it was and when he was killed. 100%.