Saudi source: Turkish bases cannot be allowed in the kingdom

[Alithemoor1]

Turkish F 16 vs KSA F 15 who wins

Are you seriously comparing an air superiority jet fighter with a multi-role one? The F-16 are sitting ducks for the F-15.

 

[GOLDENEAGLE1]

Are you seriously comparing an air superiority jet fighter with a multi-role one? The F-16 are sitting ducks for the F-15.

Turkish F-16's accompanied by AEW&C planes are more capable

Certainly not a sitting duck

 

[litman]

i am glad that the recent sinister activities by KSA is pushing pakistan in the right direction. most of the educated pakistanis are pissed off at saudi activities in the region . the efforts of turkey in supporting muslims of qatar at the time of need and an attempt to defuse the tension between qatar and saudia must be appreciated.

Turkish F 16 vs KSA F 15 who wins

turkish F-16s off course. the latest block 52s in the right hands can shoot any jet in the sky other then the fifth gen jets. and i am sure turkeish pilots are way better then the saudi counterparts. the difference between the skills of these two is even greater then pakistani and indian pilots. indian pilots are not as bad as those of saudi arabia.

 

[The Accountant]

And why would we want our nukes in the hands of Saudis? Seriously is there any end to your loyalty to likes of saudis? Name one muslim country which stood with you durring any conflict with India/Afghanistan? Pakistan serves its own interests so screw saudis and other countries.

Saudi is not even a muslim gov country ... they screwed iraq, syria, yemen, qatar and iran ...

Saudia aspiration are regional supermacy not religious supermacy so we owe them nothing ...

Plus saudis have no principles by which we can stand by their side ... both iran and ksa are mad dogs killings muslims for sake of their racist ego ...

So its time to keep yourself out of this stupid ME conflict ...

 

[Avicenna]

Much before Oil, God has blessed Saudi Arabia with Islam and Qur'an.. they took it to the rest of world as a light against the darkness of ignorance.. and through their many empires they were already some of the richest and wealthiest people and societies on earth..it was a bonus from God for their good deeds, and Oil was another bonus afterwards, so they could continue the good work..

Allah blessed HUMANITY with the Quran. Islam and the Quran are for HUMANITY. An Arab is no better than a non Arab. And a non Arab is no better than an Arab.

 

[mustafa erkan]

Turkey knew that KSA will say no, So they went to Qatar much before that..It just in case KSA asks what that base is for, Turkey can answer, well it is for protecting the whole middle east..and we have asked you too.. so no one can say we didn't ask....it is a bit strange..it shows that Turkey wants to play a "leading/protecting" role in the GCC by forcing itself a bit on the others.. most of whom do not need that protection.. Is Turkey scared of something then!? I hope not, but the games in the Middle East have proven to be dangerous..

Turkey relaised their depency to USA will never end to secure their regimes. I said their regimes ,not their country because noone in Ummah can imagine a war against a state that has Macca and Medine.Turkey wants to end KSA's and Others depency to USA on defence.
Why we need their independence on their policies? because their politics objectives are to protect their regimes and that became dangerous for other countries. They became partners of USA to re-design middle east.USA uses them also gets their money.
For example supporting of coup or kurdish terrorist never gains anything to UAE and to KSA for the future.Turkey has changed its mentality and declared that he will fight against terrorism on their sources and MIT got permission to operations on abroad.
Most of terrorism activities related with outside and its not only for Turkey for most of other countries also.I dont want KSA became a direct target of Turkey but not the same for UAE. If they have really supported coup they must take what they deserve.

 

[wiseone2]

look saudi/gulf countries should stick with usa since they do military bussines together i think ummah is with usa in this day and age. pakistan should care about own itself and try to work with iran if they willing to cooperate.
This thread is going to be flamed, indians will be coming.

Pakistan is too dependent on Saudis to be neutral

 

[Kinetic]

And why would we want our nukes in the hands of Saudis? Seriously is there any end to your loyalty to likes of saudis? Name one muslim country which stood with you durring any conflict with India/Afghanistan? Pakistan serves its own interests so screw saudis and other countries.

why do you think Saudis already dont control pakistani nukes? They control most of Pakistan's economy.

 

[Pandora]

Watch today Musharraf interview on ARYNEWS ....question was raised about Qatar and KSA standoff, his reaction was little different. He said, few years ago same group of GCC propose Indian membership for OIC and Qatar present the proposal and Pakistan most beloved allies support for Indian membership. But................... devil came.


Bhai kia nuclear weapon ko haj karna ha....


It's time for KSA to show some muscle and takeover Qatar and change the ruling class. Actually , that what world is waiting to see. After Eid prayer , world is waiting for some action.

Arabs value us because of our military strength and our usage as canon fodders otherwise given the chance they will become our worst enemies.

why do you think Saudis already dont control pakistani nukes? They control most of Pakistan's economy.

Apart from few political stooges they have no sway in pakistan. Dont classify Madrissa bred mullahs as entire pakistan. Saudis contribute merely 2-3 billion$ through overseas workforce which if seen compared to our GDP is just a peanut. Most pakistanis over estimate the importance of saudis and emaratis in our economy.

Saudi is not even a muslim gov country ... they screwed iraq, syria, yemen, qatar and iran ...

Saudia aspiration are regional supermacy not religious supermacy so we owe them nothing ...

Plus saudis have no principles by which we can stand by their side ... both iran and ksa are mad dogs killings muslims for sake of their racist ego ...

So its time to keep yourself out of this stupid ME conflict ...

completely agree with you

 

[H!TchHiker]

If Pakistan has nothing to do with their affairs they didnt need to have him on board, but they did. Presence of Pakistani soldiers in KSA isnt any secret either. It is our weakness that we let them interfere in our affairs, but some how we can't even discuss them. One word: Arrogance!!!!

Buying any commodity from open market does not guarantee that supplier has some leverage or right to interfere....Yes indeed our weakness...and how does weakness emerge ? we can discuss as much as we want but without humiliating others who in every aspect are better in providing security and good life to there people..
See below you will find the reason we have 0 say in GCC affairs ...In-fact they hold it...I need to have a laugh when Pakistan PM says we will DO THE efforts to bring Iran and KSA closer or now KSA and Qatar which is GCC internal affair..What is the position of strength for Pakistan to talk about ?No body wants our mediation....We need to stop making lies with Pakistani people..

 

[Zibago]

Buying any commodity from open market does not guarantee that supplier has some leverage or right to interfere....Yes indeed our weakness...and how does weakness emerge ? we can discuss as much as we want but without humiliating others who in every aspect are better in providing security and good life to there people..
See below you will find the reason we have 0 say in GCC affairs ...In-fact they hold it...I need to have a laugh when Pakistan PM says we will DO THE efforts to bring Iran and KSA closer or now KSA and Qatar which is GCC internal affair..What is the position of strength for Pakistan to talk about ?No body wants our mediation....We need to stop making lies with Pakistani people..

3.11

 

[Full Moon]

Spare me your social network observations. The Kurds have been part of a centralized Iran for more than 2600 years. Supposed Twitter-sentiments by a bunch of misguided Kurds hardly count as a relevant argument. I'm well acquainted with Kurdish Iranians, and a overwhelming majority of them consider themselves to be Iranians.

I don't really care about Kurds from other states. To me, an Iranian-Arab or Balochi is more closer than a Kurd from Diyarbakir or Afrin.

That's just the convienence of the status quo. A guy like you should be the first in line to support the Iranian Kurdish cause. They do have all the requirments for at least autonomy, if not full independance.

 

[LeGenD]

Turkish F-16's accompanied by AEW&C planes are more capable

Certainly not a sitting duck

Really?

Combat radius of F-15 series aircraft = 1200 miles
Combat radius of F-16 series aircraft = 340 miles

F-15 series aircraft are designed to achieve 'air superiority' in combat operations; they are equipped with vastly superior sensors and their engagement profile is much greater than that of any MMRCA in existence. They will get a lock on F-16 series aircraft earlier and that would be the end of it.

Make no mistake about it! F-15SA in Saudi inventory are equipped with all that. US is also committed to upgrade the older F-15C in Saudi inventory to F-15SA standards.

References:

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/this-is-a-fully-armed-f-15sa-the-most-advanced-product-1715732294
http://www.deagel.com/Combat-Aircraft/F-15SA_a000535009.aspx

And Saudi Royal Air Force also operates a fleet of AWACS - fully upgraded recently: http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2017-05-23-Boeing-Completes-Radar-Upgrade-for-Saudi-Arabias-AWACS-Fleet

Turkish F 16 vs KSA F 15 who wins

F-15 easily.

 

[Fledgingwings]

This wont affect relations between the two countries.

 

[Avicenna]

Really?

Combat radius of F-15 series aircraft = 1200 miles
Combat radius of F-16 series aircraft = 340 miles

F-15 series aircraft are designed to achieve 'air superiority' in combat operations; they are equipped with vastly superior sensors and their engagement profile is much greater than that of any MMRCA in existence. They will get a lock on F-16 series aircraft earlier and that would be the end of it.

Make no mistake about it! F-15SA in Saudi inventory are equipped with all that. US is also committed to upgrade the older F-15C in Saudi inventory to F-15SA standards.

References:

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/this-is-a-fully-armed-f-15sa-the-most-advanced-product-1715732294
http://www.deagel.com/Combat-Aircraft/F-15SA_a000535009.aspx

And Saudi Royal Air Force also operates a fleet of AWACS - fully upgraded recently: http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2017-05-23-Boeing-Completes-Radar-Upgrade-for-Saudi-Arabias-AWACS-Fleet


F-15 easily.

So much more into the equation than the info you posted. Case in point 1970's NVAF Mig-17s shooting down USAF and USN F-4s and the like.