Saudi source: Turkish bases cannot be allowed in the kingdom

[The Accountant]

Well, you are showing too much ignorance here, about every subject you are trying to talk about:
First there is no tiny Usrael; millions of its citizens are trained for war.. you understand ..millions.. plus all the weapons they need from uncle SAM.. for which Usrael is a red line..
Second your WE, we, we, will bring you nothing, it is just a sign of egoism and ignorance, misconceptions and arrogance.. without the Arabs you 'll still be out of Islam that gives you that courage and god know what else.. facing India is like facing the Europeans and the US for you? get up from your sleep and try to think rationally.. leave the emotions aside, Pakistan Armed forces and personnel are very good, but never let arrogance guide your mind, they do not, that is why they prepare for war to insure peace, and most other nations do the same..
Irony in your ignorance is that General Sharif will lead a Muslim counter-terrorist organisation of about 30 000 men..and you are talking about leading Arab armies.. how stupid one can get.. you have too much poison in your mind to start spitting your venom against Arabs.. nothing could destroy the Arabs, not the Roman empire, byzantine empire, Persian empire, nor the crusades or colonialists, so better be worried about destroying yourself with that poison in your mind, jealousy will just worsen it..

So please do not quote me anymore..

Just last quote ...

I never started to claim anything about Pakistan and it was you who bring Pakistan that Pakistan has not gone into a full blown war thats why I had to remind you history of Pakistan ... it was just to remind you that others have achievements of theirs as well ...

Regarding Islam, its not your personal property as Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was not for Arab but all mankind so get out of your arab fobia that without you others will be out of Islam ...

I am not jealous of Arabs at all ... My feelings are equally negative against Iran as well and the sole reason is Arab Persian conflict resulting in killings of millions of innocent muslims ... If KSA and Iran stop funding proxy wars against each others then Muslims can be united into a much powerful force ...

Furthermore, before Pakistani, I am a human but even before human I am a muslim , and if I know that few gov. are killing my fellow muslim brothers just to achieve regional supermacy then I will feel the same about them ...

Last but not the least, I want to appoloize you on a personal level to an Arab ... I thought I talked too much negative to you but my hatred is against governments of Arab countries which are feeling proud in killing innocent muslims but not against a common Arab ... I am sorry if I hurt your feeling as an Arab and a fellow muslim ...

 

[Avicenna]

Israeli Lavi was just an F-16 with canards . Most components were imported.

Israeli Kfir and Nesher were also Mirage 5 fighters - from France. Goes to show French and Western superiority of intellect and civilization.

Heres something you can understand Frenchie.

 

[The SC]

Just last quote ...

I never started to claim anything about Pakistan and it was you who bring Pakistan that Pakistan has not gone into a full blown war thats why I had to remind you history of Pakistan ... it was just to remind you that others have achievements of theirs as well ...

Regarding Islam, its not your personal property as Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was not for Arab but all mankind so get out of your arab fobia that without you others will be out of Islam ...

I am not jealous of Arabs at all ... My feelings are equally negative against Iran as well and the sole reason is Arab Persian conflict resulting in killings of millions of innocent muslims ... If KSA and Iran stop funding proxy wars against each others then Muslims can be united into a much powerful force ...

Furthermore, before Pakistani, I am a human but even before human I am a muslim , and if I know that few gov. are killing my fellow muslim brothers just to achieve regional supermacy then I will feel the same about them ...

Last but not the least, I want to appoloize you on a personal level to an Arab ... I thought I talked too much negative to you but my hatred is against governments of Arab countries which are feeling proud in killing innocent muslims but not against a common Arab ... I am sorry if I hurt your feeling as an Arab and a fellow muslim ...

There is no Arab phobia in the fact the our prophet ASWS was an Arab.. it takes nothing from anyone else, his message was universal that is the truth, but no one can deny the fact that God had chosen the Arabs for an extremely difficult task, namely the spread of Islam to the 4 corners of the world.. and they have proven themselves before God as very worthy and capable of the task..as history is the best witness to it..

I just do not see any of our governments willingly killing their citizens or willingly going to war against others.. those are all somehow forced circumstances..because someone else wants to topple them.. it is sad, because, even when they are toppled and replaced, the process starts again, this is the real dilemma.. forced by whom ?, by the ones who can create circumstances to advance their agenda.. there is a big world game, with many regional games..and it is being played by world superpowers..and it is out of reach for the proxies.. they are just means to attain some well defined objectives..That is why most Muslim and Arab nations want to get into this game so they won't be always its victims..See the last Trump meets the Muslim leaders in KSA.. it is a good indicator of the changes to be expected..let me add, hopefully..

As for Pakistan, for me it is always Pakistan Zindabad..

 

[The Accountant]

There is no Arab phobia in the fact the our prophet ASWS was an Arab.. it takes nothing from anyone else, his message was universal that is the truth, but no one can deny the fact that God had chosen the Arabs for an extremely difficult task, namely the spread of Islam to the 4 corners of the world.. and they have proven themselves before God as very worthy and capable of the task..as history is the best witness to it..

I just do not see any of our governments willingly killing their citizens or willingly going to war against others.. those are all somehow forced circumstances..because someone else wants to topple them.. it is sad, because, even when they are toppled and replaced, the process starts again, this is the real dilemma.. forced by whom ?, by the ones who can create circumstances to advance their agenda.. there is a big world game, with many regional games..and it is being played by world superpowers..and it is out of reach for the proxies.. they are just means to attain some well defined objectives..That is why most Muslim and Arab nations want to get into this game so they won't be always its victims..See the last Trump meets the Muslim leaders in KSA.. it is a good indicator of the changes to be expected..let me add, hopefully..

As for Pakistan, for me it is always Pakistan Zindabad..

Togather we can defeat this cycle ... May Allah give us a true muslim leader under the banner of whom we could unite as single muslim followers of Allah, Prophet SAW and quran ... ameen ...

InshAllah we will unite again ...

Furthermore i acknowledge that honor of having Prophet from your forefathers is yours and we respect you alot for this but this also means that you will always have a greater responsibility ...

IA Madina will became rulling state of the world once again ...

 

[Avicenna]

first KSA was not accused of supporting the coup in Turkey..second UAE was falsely accused, because there is a video of the Turkish ambassador to the UAE who was prising UAE stance against the coup! so go figure..
Turkey might want to help other Muslim countries get out of the US grip.. mostly concerning weapons, yet Turkey itself is still sourcing its weapons like the long range air defence systems from abroad.. and it is only one example among hundreds; the Tank engines is another good example!. So it is very subjective and far from being realistic.. Turkey can not provide KSA or UAE with Patriot and THAAD like systems, nor can it provide an equivalent to the P-8, or surveillance satellites as the US can.. but on the other fronts where Turkey has tested and proven systems, there were many JVs signed with the GCC members..which is reality based on pragmatism.. Also there is no redesign of the middle east.. Syria and Iraq's crisis are mainly internal matters now, no one wants to split Syria or Iraq, but the Kurds are a card hold by mostly the Europeans to pressure Turkey and that has nothing to do with KSA or the UAE..So to the contrary of what some people like to think KSA in particular and the rest of the GCC (minus Qatar) want to stabilise the middle east and the best example is Yemen.. And some will come here and start ranting and spreading falsehood that KSA killed 18, 000 Yemenis, an other lies concerning the stabilisation of Yemen..while forgetting or pretending their blindness about the 500 000 Syrians they have ganged up against and killed and the millions of refugees as a result.. this wouldn't have come about in the wildest dreams of Usrael, Thus it is clear and obvious that the ones behind the Syrian war are the real Zionist proxies, and pointing their fingers towards others is a move to hide their faces..



While pakistani pilots downed 2 or 3 Usraeli pilots.. Egyptian pilots alone downed more than 100 Usraeli advanced US fighters with their best pilots and only with the Mig 21, another 200 Usraeli fighters were downed by SAMs.. So Arab pilots my friend are not just some ordinary pilots, they are really extraordinary given the fact that they were fighting the US best air warfare technologies directly through Usrael, and all they had was some second class Russian technologies, since Russia refused to sell them its most advanced fighters in that era..this is a good indication of Arab prowess in warfare, they have proven much creativity in using extraordinary tactics with a small and limited capacity fighter against some of the most sophisticated US warplanes..These are facts to meditate on, far from some ego pumping..

And yet you lost all the wars....

 

[El Sidd]

This thread is all kind of messy... And not good like that Argentinian volleyball player

 

[The SC]

And yet you lost all the wars....

Go troll somewhere else please, you look somewhat hurt by Arab victories..

 

[Avicenna]

Go troll somewhere else please, you look somewhat hurt by Arab victories..

Just stating a fact. Please refute what I said.

 

[blondeturkish]

It is bullsh**.

These Middle Eastern camel riders think that any propaganda drivel by their mad dictator Erdogan will turn out to be magically true.

They themselves do not have a clue what is network centric warfare.

It is nothing novel, nothing unique. Turkey is nowhere in this except fantasy.

wave the white flag already.

 

[T-Rex]

While pakistani pilots downed 2 or 3 Usraeli pilots.. Egyptian pilots alone downed more than 100 Usraeli advanced US fighters with their best pilots and only with the Mig 21, another 200 Usraeli fighters were downed by SAMs.. So Arab pilots my friend are not just some ordinary pilots, they are really extraordinary given the fact that they were fighting the US best air warfare technologies directly through Usrael, and all they had was some second class Russian technologies, since Russia refused to sell them its most advanced fighters in that era..this is a good indication of Arab prowess in warfare, they have proven much creativity in using extraordinary tactics with a small and limited capacity fighter against some of the most sophisticated US warplanes..These are facts to meditate on, far from some ego pumping..

I have never seen those videos on u-tube the way I see the videos of IAF shooting down Egyptian fighters. Are they available on u-tube? Here's one of them:

 

[Baybars Han]

It is bullsh**.

These Middle Eastern camel riders think that any propaganda drivel by their mad dictator Erdogan will turn out to be magically true.

They themselves do not have a clue what is network centric warfare.

It is nothing novel, nothing unique. Turkey is nowhere in this except fantasy.

Shhhhh surrender monkey, your voice is getting too loud. Don't think because of 200 years of being a second rate power makes you something.

 

[flamer84]

Togather we can defeat this cycle ... May Allah give us a true muslim leader under the banner of whom we could unite as single muslim followers of Allah, Prophet SAW and quran ... ameen ...

InshAllah we will unite again ...

Furthermore i acknowledge that honor of having Prophet from your forefathers is yours and we respect you alot for this but this also means that you will always have a greater responsibility ...

IA Madina will became rulling state of the world once again ...

It was never the ruling state of the world.

 

[The Accountant]

It was never the ruling state of the world.

It was when Madina destroyed Persian and Romans under rule f Hazrat Omer bin Khattab RA ...

 

[flamer84]

It was when Madina destroyed Persian and Romans under rule f Hazrat Omer bin Khattab RA ...

No.....Romans were not destroyed,Constantinople endured for 800 years,there were great civilisations in East Asia untouched,most of Europe was unconquered, don't get me started on the Americas,Australia, etc.

 

[The Accountant]

No.....Romans were not destroyed,Constantinople endured for 800 years,there were great civilisations in East Asia untouched,most of Europe was unconquered, don't get me started on the Americas,Australia, etc.

As of now we call USA sole super power ... how much physical area US control ?

Its not about physical ... its about influence and authority ... It was biggest empire of its time ... civilisation and cultural center of its time, economic power ...

Both romans and persians were attacked muslim captured their land ... persia completely and major areas of rome including jerusalem ...

No one was capable of challenging effectively ...

Australia and us were non existent ...

China and japan were in their own shell and had no influence over other regions ...

So yes madina was the rulling state of the world by my definition and if we go by your definiton then no one has ever been the rulling state of the world as there were always some areas which were free and out of the influence of world power but they were always weak and small areas ...