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Saudi Arabia's grand mufti, the highest religious authority in the birthplace of Islam, has urged young Saudis to refrain from fighting in Syria.

The kingdom has previously backed the rebels battling President Bashar al-Assad, publicly calling on the world powers to “enable” Syrians to protect themselves, but is now wary that fighters could return home ready to wage war on their own dynastic rulers.

Islamists in Saudi Arabia, who follow a puritanical version of Sunni Islam, denounce Assad and his administration as infidels because of their roots in the Alawite sect, an offshoot of Shi'ite Islam.

However, Sunni Muslim al Qaeda fighters led by Saudi-born Osama bin Laden attacked targets inside Saudi Arabia between 2003 and 2006, having gained experience fighting in Iraq, and before that in Afghanistan.

“This is all wrong, it's not obligatory,” Sheikh Abdulaziz Al al-Sheikh said, in reference to Saudi men joining a civil war that is now in well into its third year, according to pan-Arab daily al-Hayat.

“These are feuding factions and one should not go there. I do not advise one to go there ... Going to a land that you do not know and without experience, you will be a burden to them, what they want from you is your prayer.”

A Gulf source familiar with military movements in the region said in September 2012 thousands of Saudis had sought to head to Syria to join the uprising. It is not known how many succeeded.

The grand mufti, appointed by the Saudi king, also warned preachers against encouraging young men to fight in Syria during their sermons, after delivering what the paper said was a lecture on “Deviation among the youth” at a mosque.

“Muslims should be fearful of God and not deceive young Muslims and exploit their weakness and lack of insight and push them to an abyss,” the mufti was quoted by the paper on Monday.

“I advise them (preachers) to advise (young people) as they would advise their sons.”

Bin Laden led a battalion of Arab volunteers fighting against the Soviet forces occupying Afghanistan in the 1980s, while others joined local Muslim forces in civil wars in the 1990s in Bosnia and Chechnya.

But even before he sent 15 Saudis and four other Arabs to carry out the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States in 2001, bin Laden had turned against the Saudi Arabia's ruling al-Saud family, mainly because of its close relationship with the West.

That relationship, especially with its oldest ally the United States, has cooled somewhat over the past months over the failure to end the war in Syria and Saudi Arabia’s softening of tone towards the U.S.’s arch-rival Shi'ite Iran.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...ader-urges-youths-not-to-fight-in-Syria-.html
 
Pakistani religious cum political party Jamat-e-Islami should also grasp .........
 
That is really great, finally our local mullahs have a clear directive on the matter that they can put forth.
 
Similar comments from him where made 1.5 years ago I recall. A quick Google search could even prove that I imagine.

Hist message to the Syrian people nearly 2 years ago:


But he can talk in my opinion. There is clear enough Islamic legitimacy to fight inside Syria for the sake of fellow Muslims and Arabs provided that the oppresive enemy is targeted and not civilians.

40:28 And a believing man from among the people of Pharaoh, who had concealed his belief, said: “Will you kill a man simply for saying: ‘My Lord is God’, and he has come to you with proofs from your Lord? And if he is a liar, then his lie will be upon him, and if he is truthful, then some of what he is promising you will afflict you. For God does not guide any transgressor, liar.”
2:49-50 And We saved you from the people of Pharaoh, they were afflicting you with the worst punishment; they used to slaughter your children, and rape your women. In that was a great test from your Lord. And We parted the sea for you, thus We saved you and drowned the people of Pharaoh while you were watching.
2:190-191 And fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not aggress, God does not love the aggressors. And kill them wherever you encounter them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. And do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then kill them, thus is the recompense of the rejecters.

8:65 O prophet, urge the believers to fight. If there are twenty of you who are patient, they will defeat two hundred. And if there are one hundred of you, they will defeat one thousand from among those who reject; that is because they are a people who do not understand.

I have great respect for him as the highest religious authority in KSA and as a esteemed Sheikh from a esteemed clerical family but on this particular issue I disagree with him. There are enough Islamic arguments to permit fighting against the oppressive forces inside Syria the problem is that the landscape of the opposition is unclear today. I belief that he refers to that. I have to listen to his original Arabic statement and see if the translation is correct. Often they are not which creates confusion, misunderstandings and exaggerations.
 
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Saudi Arabia's grand mufti, the highest religious authority in the birthplace of Islam, has urged young Saudis to refrain from fighting in Syria

This man who claim to be a mufti $haikh had been exposed which had been around the social sites and criticizing him but the truth is what like others have been saying is because there are over 1,000 Saudi Arabian mujahed who joined in the rank of ISIS, JAN and other brigades close to them, they are also one of the highest foreigners who became a Shaheed yet day by day they are fleeing their country to join. The only respected KSA scholar who have followers worldwide is Shaikh Muhammad al Arifi and some few remaining who were either detained or gave a warning in KSA for an obvious reason and sadly, the likes and the followers of Ibn Tamiyah is in the prison. Just imagine if they were released? Also, in beginning in 2012 scholars agreed a fatwa to join FSA then in June 2013 70 leading scholars "around" the world united in a conference said Jihad is an obligation in Syria which is Fard al Ayn and declaring the magos as our main real enemy who should never talk or buy products from them.

Why is it perfectable to forbid them to aid them while the Shia savages is united under the leadership of the magos Ayotallah scums who forced to slaughter the Muslims in Syria and Iraq then soon in Lebanon? Unfortunately, Muslim blood is cheap what they see.

What is Fard al Ayn for Jihad?

Is there a specific punishment that is deserved by those who neglect jihad for the sake of Allaah?.

Praise be to Allaah.

The command to wage jihad for the sake of Allaah, and the warning against neglecting jihad, appear in many verses of the Qur’aan and ahaadeeth.

If the Muslims neglect jihad for the sake of Allaah, and prefer a life of ease, and focus only on this world, they will face humiliation and scorn, and all their affairs will be corrupted. They expose themselves to the wrath and anger of Allaah, and they expose Islam to loss and defeat at the hands of kufr. Hence neglecting jihad is a major sin.

Ibn Hajar said in al-Zawaajir:

The 390th, 391st and 392nd major sins are neglecting jihad when it becomes an obligation, which is when aggressors enter the Muslim land or when they seize a Muslim, and it is possible to rescue him from them and the people neglect jihad altogether and when the people in a region neglect to fortify their borders so that there is a risk of the kuffaar overrunning them because of that.” end quote.

Hence it was well known and well established among the Sahaabah that no one refrains from taking part in jihad when it becomes fard ‘ayn (an individual obligation) except one who is weak and is therefore excused or one who is a hypocrite. This is what was narrated by Ka’b ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) when he stayed behind from the campaign of Tabook: “When I came out to the people after the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had gone out, I went around among them and was distressed to see no one except a man who was known to be a hypocrite or weak men whom Allaah had excused.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4066; Muslim, 4973.

The evidence also states some of the punishments that result from that. For example:

1 – Neglecting jihad leads to doom in this world and in the Hereafter.

In this world the craven coward is humiliated and enslaved, he is a follower, not a leader. In the Hereafter, neglecting jihad will be a cause of Allaah's punishment.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And spend in the Cause of Allaah (i.e. Jihad of all kinds) and do not throw yourselves into destruction (by not spending your wealth in the Cause of Allaah), and do good. Truly, Allaah loves Al-Muhsinoon (the good-doers”
[al-Baqarah 2:195]


al-Tirmidhi (2972) narrated that Aslam Abu ‘Imraan said: We were in the city of the Byzantines (i.e., Constantinople) and a great troop of the Byzantines came out to us. One of the Muslim men attacked the Byzantine ranks until he penetrated them, and the people shouted and said “Subhaan-Allaah, he has thrown himself into destruction.” Abu Ayyoob al-Ansaari stood up and said: “O people, you misinterpret this verse in this way; rather this verse was revealed concerning us, the Ansaar. When Allaah caused Islam to prevail and its supporters increased, we said to one another in secret, without speaking to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): ‘Our wealth is neglected. Allaah has caused Islam to prevail and its supporters have increased. Why don’t we stay with our property and improve it?’ Then Allaah revealed Qur’aan to His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), refuting what we had said: “And spend in the Cause of Allaah (i.e. Jihad of all kinds) and do not throw yourselves into destruction” [al-Baqarah 2:195]. This destruction was our staying with our property to improve it, and neglecting to fight (in jihad). Abu Ayyoob never stopped fighting for the sake of Allaah until he was buried in Constantinople. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

It says in Tuhfat al-Ahwadhi:

This hadeeth indicates that what is meant by throwing oneself into destruction is taking care of one’s family and wealth at the expense of jihad.

2 – Neglecting jihad is a cause of humiliation and scorn

Abu Dawood (3462) narrated that Ibn ‘Umar said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “When you engage in ‘aynah transactions (a kind of transaction intended to circumvent the prohibition on riba or usury), and you take hold of the tails of oxen and you are content with agriculture (at the time when jihad is obligatory), and you give up jihad, then Allaah will send upon you humiliation that will not be dispelled until you return to your religion, Allaah will send upon you humiliation that will not be dispelled until you return to your religion, Allaah will send upon you humiliation that will not be dispelled until you return to your religion.” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.

Our Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) indeed spoke the truth, for the one who looks at the state of the Muslims today will see that they have become very careless about their religion. They consume riba and they are focused on this world, and they have neglected jihad for the sake of Allaah. And what is the result? Allaah has subjected them to humiliation, and they turn to the east and to the west, humiliated and lowly, asking them for support against their enemies, and they do not realize [?] that this humiliation will not be lifted from them until they go back to their religion as the truthful Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said.

Allaah has indeed spoken the truth:

“Give to the hypocrites the tidings that there is for them a painful torment.

Those who take disbelievers for Awliyaa’ (protectors or helpers or friends) instead of believers, do they seek honour, power and glory with them? Verily, then to Allaah belongs all honour, power and glory”

[al-Nisa’ 4:138-139 – interpretation of the meaning]

3 – Neglecting jihad is a cause of Allaah's punishment in this world and in the Hereafter

Abu Dawood (2503) narrated from Abu Umaamah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever does not fight or does not equip a warrior or support the family of a warrior in his absence, Allaah will strike him with calamity before the Day of Resurrection.” Classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.

Al-Qaari’ah (translated here as calamity) means a disaster that occurs suddenly.

And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! What is the matter with you, that when you are asked to march forth in the Cause of Allaah (i.e. Jihaad) you cling heavily to the earth? Are you pleased with the life of this world rather than the Hereafter? But little is the enjoyment of the life of this world as compared to the Hereafter.

If you march not forth, He will punish you with a painful torment and will replace you by another people; and you cannot harm Him at all, and Allaah is Able to do all things”

[al-Tawbah 9:38-39]

The punishment of which He warns them is not only punishment in the Hereafter, rather it is punishment in this world and in the Hereafter, the punishment of humiliation that befalls those who do not engage in jihad, the punishment of being deprived of the good things from which the kaafir enemy benefits. In addition to all of that, those who forsake jihad will lose more lives and more wealth than would be lost in jihad, and they offer more sacrifices than those required to retain their honour and dignity. No ummah forsook jihad but Allaah sent humility upon them, thus the cost was far greater than that that may have been required in jihad against the enemy.

Al-Zilaal, 3/1655.

Al-Sa’di (may Allaah have mercy on him) said (p. 532):

“O you who believe” do you not know the requirements of faith, which is that you should hasten to obey the command of Allaah and to seek His pleasure, and to fight His enemies in jihad for the sake of your religion? So “What is the matter with you, that when you are asked to march forth in the Cause of Allaah (i.e. Jihaad) you cling heavily to the earth?” meaning, why are you so lazy and so inclined towards this world.

“Are you pleased with the life of this world rather than the Hereafter?” Your case is that of those who are content with this world and who strive for worldly purposes, caring nothing for the Hereafter because they do not believe in it.

“But little is the enjoyment of the life of this world” towards which you are inclined and which you prefer. Hasn’t Allaah given you reason with which to weigh up matters and see which deserves to be shown preference?

Is not this world – from beginning to end – as nothing in comparison to the Hereafter?

What is a man's lifespan in comparison to the lifespan of this world, so as to make worldly gain his ultimate goal and concern and restrict all his efforts and focus to this short life that is filled with distress and risk?

How can you possibly prefer it to the Hereafter which includes every kind of delight that a person could desire, where you will abide forever? No person who prefers this world to the Hereafter has faith rooted in his heart and he cannot be regarded as a man of wisdom and understanding. Then Allaah warns them if they do not march forth, as He says:

“If you march not forth, He will punish you with a painful torment” – in this world and in the Hereafter, for not marching forth when ordered to do so is a major sin that deserves the most severe punishment, because it causes a great deal of harm, because the one who stays behind(from jihad) has disobeyed Allaah and done something that He has forbidden, and he has not helped to support the religion of Allaah or to protect the Book of Allaah and His Law. He has not helped his Muslim brothers against the enemy who wants to uproot them and eradicate their religion. Perhaps others who are weak in faith will follow his example, and he may even discourage those who are involved in fighting the enemies of Allaah. Thus he will be like those whom Allaah has warned of a severe punishment: “If you march not forth, He will punish you with a painful torment” Allaah has promised to support His religion and make His word supreme regardless of whether you obey the command of Allaah or not.

“and Allaah is Able to do all things” He is not incapable of doing anything that He wants, and none can overwhelm Him.

We ask Allaah to bring the Muslims back to their religion and to remove humiliation from them.

And Allaah knows best.

Obadah ibn Samit (رضي الله عنه) narrates, that the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said, "“The Shaheed (martyr) is granted seven gifts from Allah:

1) He is forgiven at the fisrt drop of his blood.
2) He sees his status in Jannah (paradise).
3) He is dressed in the clothes of 'Imaan (faith).
4) He is safe from the punishment of the grave.
5) He will be safe from the great fear of the day of Judgment.
6) A crown of honour will be placed on his head.
7) He will intercede on behalf of 70 members of his family."

and sadly, Muslims are not realizing this.

Defensive Jihad
This is expelling the Kuffar (i.e America assault or Magos) from our land, and it is Fard Ayn, a compulsory duty
upon all. It is the most important of the compulsory duties and arises in the following
conditions:

A) If the Kuffar enter a land of the Muslims.
B) If the rows meet in battle and they begin to approach each other.
C) If the Imam calls a person or a people to march forward then they must march.
D) If the Kuffar capture and imprison a group of Muslims

Sheikh Ibn Taymia says on this topic: "About the defensive jihad, which is
repelling an aggressor, is the most tasking type of jihad. As agreed upon by everyone, it
is obligatory to protect the religion and what is sacred. The first obligation after Iman is
the repulsion of the enemy aggressor who assaults the religion and the worldly affairs.
There are no conditional requirements such as supplies or transport, rather he is fought
with all immediate capability. The Ulama, our peers and others have spoken about this."
Ibn Taymia supports his opinion of the absence of the requirement of transport in his
reply to the Judge who said: "If jihad becomes Fard Ayn upon the people of a country,
one of the requirements, in comparison to Hajj, is that one must have supplies and a ride
if the distance is such that one shortens the prayer". Ibn Taymia said: "What the Judge
has said in comparison to Hajj has not been stated before by anybody and is a weak
argument. Jihad is obligatory because it is for the repulsion of the harm of the enemy,
therefore it has priority over Hijr . For Hijr no transport is considered necessary. Of the
jihads some take priority. It is furthered in a sahih hadith narrated by Ebaad Bin Asaamat
that the Prophet (saw) said: "it is upon the Muslim to listen and obey in hardship and
prosperity, in what he likes and dislikes, and even if he is not given his rights".
Therefore, the pillar of the most important of obligations, is the marching forward in
times of hardship as well as prosperity. As has been stated, contrary to Hajj, the
obligation remains present in times of hardship. And this is in offensive jihad. So it is
clear that defensive jihad carries a greater degree of obligation. To defend the sacred
things and the religion from the aggressor is obligatory, as agreed upon by everyone. Thefirst obligation after Iman is repulsion of the enemy aggressor who assaults the religion
and the worldly affairs".

Now we look at the opinions of the four Mathhabs who are all
in agreement on this point.

Hanafi Fiqh
Ibn Aabidin said : "Jihad becomes Fard Ayn if the enemy attacks one of the
borders of the Muslims, and it becomes Fard Ayn upon those close by. For those who are
far away, it is Fard Kifaya, if their assistance is not required. If they are needed, perhaps
because those nearby the attack cannot resist the enemy, or are indolent and do not fight
jihad, then it becomes Fard Ayn upon those behind them, like the obligation to pray and
fast. There is no room for them to leave it. If they too are unable, then it becomes Fard
Ayn upon those behind them, and so on in the same manner until the jihad becomes Fard
Ayn upon the whole Ummah of Islam from the East to the West".

Maliki Fiqh
In Hashiyat ad Dussuqi it is stated: Jihad becomes Fard Ayn upon a surprise attack
by the enemy. Dussuqi said: "Wherever this happens, jihad immediately becomes Fard
Ayn upon everybody, even women, slaves and children, and they march out even if their
guardians, husbands and creditors forbid them to.

Shaffie Fiqh
In the Nihayat al Mahtaj by Ramli: "If they approach one of our lands and the
distance between them and us becomes less than the distance permitting the shortening of
prayers, then the people of that territory must defend it and it becomes Fard Ayn even
upon the people for whom there is usually no jihad; the poor, the children, the slaves, the
debtor and the women.

Hanbali Fiqh
In Al Mughni by Ibn al Qadamah: "Jihad becomes Fard Ayn in three situations:
1) If the two sides meet in battle and they approach each other.
2) If the Kuffar enter a land, jihad becomes Fard Ayn upon its people.
3) If the Imam calls a people to march forward it is obligatory upon them to
march forward."

And Ibn Taymia remarked: "If the enemy enters a Muslim land, there is no doubt
that it is obligatory for the closest and then the next closest to repel him, because the
Muslim lands are like one land. It is obligatory to march to the territory even without the
permission of parents or creditor, and narrations reported by Ahmad are clear on this."

Allah Almighty and Majestic says: "And fight them until there is no more Fitnah
(disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah)
and the religion
(worship) will all be for Allah alone (in the whole of the world)..."?? The Fitnah means
Shirk as Ibn Abbas and as Siddi said: "When the Kuffar attack and control a country, the
Ummah is endangered in its religion and it becomes susceptible to doubt in its belief.
Fighting then becomes an obligation to protect the religion, lives, 'Ard and wealth."


Just as simple, Shias and Majos needs to be exterminated :coffee:
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@MooshMoosh, brother, KSA has tons of respected scholars. Arguably the highest amount of respected and famous scholars worldwide (Arab and Muslim world). The Grand Mufti is a very wise and respected Sheikh. I would never challenge his Islamic authority or try to claim to be more knowledge than him.

This news has been reported falsely. He has said nothing new compared to 2 years ago at the beginning of the conflict. He says, which I agree with, that not all forms of "JIhad" that we see in Syria right now are rightful. For example targeting civilians or groups that use an Islamic banner to gain worthily riches etc. Or who preach one thing but do the other. He also said that the landscape of the opposition is partially unclear today.

I watch his weekly program where he answers call from all over the Arab world and he once again stated that legitimate jihad in Syria is permitted.

But yes he has voiced concerns for the Saudi Arabians who have travelled to Syria and how they will behave if they return. Remember that KSA have been targeted by Al-Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula not long ago.

War is not a game. Some people - even good ones - get scars for life and can be unreliable. I never participated in a war or conflict so I don't know but that is what I hear.
 
My sorrow comes from the fact that I feel there are ways this war could be ended more quickly and save more lives, but it does not seem to be happening. In any case, times like this shows who you can trust and who you cannot.

In many ways, we Sunni Muslims are our own worst enemy. Shia's give their lives for each other, risk their entire country's well being, and it did not happen in one day, this team building was a conscious decades long effort since 1979. But we Sunni's of the world did not understand the implications of all this and never tried anything like that. That is why with fewer numerical strength they are still holding on.

So in a way I understand those young emotional guys who go there to fight, I feel for them, they have a noble heart. They feel their govt. is not doing enough, so they take it in their own hand and conscience to help. But good intentions are not enough, wars are won with cold hard strategy, not warm feelings.
 
@MooshMoosh

This news has been reported falsely. He has said nothing new compared to 2 years ago at the beginning of the conflict. He says, which I agree with, that not all forms of "JIhad" that we see in Syria right now are rightful. For example targeting civilians or groups that use an Islamic banner to gain worthily riches etc. Or who preach one thing but do the other. He also said that the landscape of the opposition is partially unclear today.

When people say like this, it gives me nerves to the core that's why no one ever should say the word 'forbid' going to Jihad there. Why permit in Afghanistan then after Soviet collapsed then they started to label them terrorist which was first announced by America. There is no targeting civilians who are all suffered on daily bombardment, tortures and rapes by Assadist child murdering animals yet we still call our brothers terrorist or forbid aid to defend the Muslims? Despite propaganda labelled pro Assadist source, they are like experts in deception but al humdulilah you, I and the Muslims didn't fall in this trap.
 
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