Saudi prince warns Iran against use of force

[Devil Soul]

Saudi prince warns Iran against use of force
By Reuters
Published: September 15, 2016
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Mecca Governor Prince Khaled al-Faisal speaks during an annual news conference briefing reporters on the conclusion of the main rites of the haj pilgrimage in Mina, near the holy city of Mecca in this file photo dated October 28, 2012. PHOTO: REUTERS

A senior Saudi official, responding to Iranian criticism of Riyadh’s management of the hajj pilgrimage, urged Iran to end what he called wrong attitudes toward Arabs and warned it against any use of force in its rivalry with the kingdom.

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Makkah province governor Prince Khaled al-Faisal, in remarks likely to be seen as a reference to Iran, added that the orderly conduct of the pilgrimage this year “is a response to all the lies and slanders made against the kingdom”.

The remarks carried by the official Saudi Press Agency (SPA) on Wednesday evening follow an escalating war of words between Shia-Muslim Iran and Sunni-Saudi Arabia since a crush at the annual hajj pilgrimage a year ago in which hundreds of pilgrims, many of them Iranians, died.

SPA quoted Prince Khaled as telling journalists his message to the Iranian leadership was “I pray to God Almighty to guide them and to deter them from their transgression and their wrong attitudes toward their fellow Muslim among the Arabs in Iraq, Syria, Yemen and around the world”.

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“But if they are preparing an army to invade us, we are not easily taken by someone who would make war on us.”

“When we desire, and with the help of God Almighty, we will deter every aggressor and will never relent in protecting this holy land and our dear country. No one can defile any part from our country if any one of us remains on the face of the earth.”

No top Iranian leader has called for war with Saudi Arabia, something neither country wants.

But last year’s hajj disaster, and the execution in January of dissident Saudi-Shia cleric Nimr al-Nimr, triggered months of scathing Iranian criticism of the kingdom.

Riyadh broke off relations with Tehran after its embassy there was attacked by Iranians protesting against Nimr’s death. Iran’s powerful Revolutionary Guards promised “harsh revenge” for Nimr’s death.

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Iran blamed the 2015 hajj disaster on Saudi incompetence, and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on September 5 said some of the Iranians who died had been “murdered” by Saudi Arabia. He said Muslims should not let Saudi rulers escape responsibility for “crimes” he said they had committed in Arab conflicts.

 

[usernameless]

Like your Kurdish commie cousins , you are TERORISTS. NOT TURKEY. we fight against you scums.
Do you understand???

Everybody is a terrorist for iranians; Sunnis, Israelis, Arabs, Turks, Pakistanis etc., in short everybody that doesn't worship khomeini is a terrorist. iran is an angel though, nothing bad comes out of it, not now, not in the last few decades! E.g. hezbollah and Houthis are Turkish backed, not iran! After all, iran is the Switzerland of the ME!! Just between you and me, very interestingly isis claims to be sunni but doesnt attack iran?! hmmm

 

[SQ8]

Use of force where?
This is a vague statement meant to detract from the issue of the Iranian ban which Saudi Arabia simply does not have the right to. It can based on territorial principles, but it is no differrent than the pagans of Mecca who refused entry.

This persian arab rivalry will continue to escalate until it burns the middle east; one is a resurgent Persian empire backed by Russia and the others are the GCC arabs banking on the US.

 

[AmirPatriot]

lol... Iran never threatened to invade anyone. Its the Saudis which have invaded Yemen.

And look how their invasion is going.

 

[raptor22]

lol... Iran never threatened to invade anyone. Its the Saudis which have invaded Yemen.

And look how their invasion is going.

Oh boy .. you are playing with fire dear .. don't anger Saudi prince it would have dire consequences for us ... have not you seen how mighty Saudi army has flexed its muscle by killing civilians 24/7 , targeting hospitals schools and etc etc in Yemen?

 

[Serpentine]

Just between you and me, very interestingly isis claims to be sunni but doesnt attack iran?! hmmm

So it's a conspiracy game now? Let's bring it on: ISIS shared border with Turkey for years, didn't launch a single attack across the border. ISIS didn't take responsibility for any of attacks in Turkey, unlike its attacks across the globe. There is basically no proof that ISIS has attacked Turkey, not a single one, except claims by Turkish officials. Meanwhile, ISIS has never shared even a millimeter border with Iran and we literally obliterated them when they reached within 50 km distance of our border in 2014. They couldn't launch attack in Iran because we arrested every single ISIS cell in Iran, and besides the fact that our population produces much much less nutjob terrorists compared to all our neighboring countries. Oh, did I not mention how thousands of ISIS terrorists reached Syria and Iraq through Turkey from across the globe with extreme ease? And how nearly 1000 Turkish citizens joined ISIS, while nearly zero Iranians joined?

How do you like conspiracies now? See? Everyone can throw them out.

 

[damm1t]

So it's a conspiracy game now? Let's bring it on: ISIS shared border with Turkey for years, didn't launch a single attack across the border. ISIS didn't take responsibility for any of attacks in Turkey, unlike its attacks across the globe. There is basically no proof that ISIS has attacked Turkey, not a single one, except claims by Turkish officials. Meanwhile, ISIS has never shared even a millimeter border with Iran and we literally obliterated them when they reached within 50 km distance of our border in 2014. They couldn't launch attack in Iran because we arrested every single ISIS cell in Iran, and besides the fact that our population produces much much less nutjob terrorists compared to all our neighboring countries.

How do you like conspiracies now? See? Everyone can throw them out.

Well you claim that you know better than Turkish intelligence and officials, shame on them that they didn't share the proofs with you To be honest dozens of ISIS members captured before attack who confessed their connections.

 

[X-2.]

lol... Iran never threatened to invade anyone. Its the Saudis which have invaded Yemen.

And look how their invasion is going.

Lol the houthis rebellion was funded by iran .. even iran was escalating through Yemen Saudis border

 

[Attila the Hun]

Everybody is a terrorist for iranians; Sunnis, Israelis, Arabs, Turks, Pakistanis etc., in short everybody that doesn't worship khomeini is a terrorist. iran is an angel though, nothing bad comes out of it, not now, not in the last few decades! E.g. hezbollah and Houthis are Turkish backed, not iran! After all, iran is the Switzerland of the ME!! Just between you and me, very interestingly isis claims to be sunni but doesnt attack iran?! hmmm

ISIS and PKK are the same thing. Created to attack Turkey. NOT IRAN.
The Iranians are just good for being slaves.

 

[X-2.]

Well you claim that you know better than Turkish intelligence and officials, shame on them that they didn't share the proofs with you To be honest dozens of ISIS members captured before attack who confessed their connections.

Lols what a sarcastic comments wl said bro

 

[Imran Khan]

Everybody is a terrorist for iranians; Sunnis, Israelis, Arabs, Turks, Pakistanis etc., in short everybody that doesn't worship khomeini is a terrorist. iran is an angel though, nothing bad comes out of it, not now, not in the last few decades! E.g. hezbollah and Houthis are Turkish backed, not iran! After all, iran is the Switzerland of the ME!! Just between you and me, very interestingly isis claims to be sunni but doesnt attack iran?! hmmm

terror word is being used widely these days

 

[Serpentine]

Well you claim that you know better than Turkish intelligence and officials, shame on them that they didn't share the proofs with you To be honest dozens of ISIS members captured before attack who confessed their connections.

I hope you can read English well my friend, just read the post I quoted, and also read my answer in full, especially last part:

How do you like conspiracies now? See? Everyone can throw them out.

َAsk your friend, who 'apparently' thinks and knows ISIS is not attacking Iran because there is a secret deal between two, not because we are not incompetent to prevent major terror attacks.

But this happens because every random Joe with access to internet can be an 'analyst' these days, figuring out all these conspiracies like no genius every did.

 

[usernameless]

So it's a conspiracy game now? Let's bring it on: ISIS shared border with Turkey for years, didn't launch a single attack across the border. ISIS didn't take responsibility for any of attacks in Turkey, unlike its attacks across the globe. There is basically no proof that ISIS has attacked Turkey, not a single one, except claims by Turkish officials. Meanwhile, ISIS has never shared even a millimeter border with Iran and we literally obliterated them when they reached within 50 km distance of our border in 2014.

How do you like conspiracies now? See? Everyone can throw them out.

If you don't like such conspiracy theories, perhaps some people shouldn't throw such conspiracy theories about Turkey either.

Btw, isis did threaten to conquer Istanbul once or twice, didnt they?
Exactly, you finally noticed it, very interestingly isis' attacks in Turkey were overwhelmingly aimed at citizens of sunni Kurdish background (interestingly the HDP - pkk political party - uses this as an excuse to unsuccessfully incite hatred against the govt and take Kurdish AKP voters away from them), tourism and airport, in other words 'isis' really wants to damage Turkish economy, international reputation and social stability. This rather seems like the work of some proxy instructed by someone with intelligence and bad intentions. Could it be Iran or Russia or could it be the US, Israel or others that want to harm Turkey under the disguise of 'isis' as all of them have long history with proxies? Just because Western and Russian propaganda media have a bigger reach, doesn't mean their conspiracy theories are more credible.

Why should Turkey immediately launch an attack on isis if they didn't pose a threat to our country back then? Why should Turkey do a service to anyone by cleaning up their, US, Syrian and Iraqi, mess at the cost of our own resources and lives? Just in order to not get blackmailed with 'you support isis' by US propaganda media for not throwing in our army to clean up the mess and chaos they left behind in Iraq?
Since Iran likes to keep Iraq and Syria in its pocket, of course it will immediately jump at isis. See? I come with logical explanations while you throw easily debunkable conspiracy theories.

So it's a conspiracy game now? Let's bring it on: ISIS shared border with Turkey for years, didn't launch a single attack across the border. ISIS didn't take responsibility for any of attacks in Turkey, unlike its attacks across the globe. There is basically no proof that ISIS has attacked Turkey, not a single one, except claims by Turkish officials. Meanwhile, ISIS has never shared even a millimeter border with Iran and we literally obliterated them when they reached within 50 km distance of our border in 2014. They couldn't launch attack in Iran because we arrested every single ISIS cell in Iran, and besides the fact that our population produces much much less nutjob terrorists compared to all our neighboring countries. Oh, did I not mention how thousands of ISIS terrorists reached Syria and Iraq through Turkey from across the globe with extreme ease? And how nearly 1000 Turkish citizens joined ISIS, while nearly zero Iranians joined?

How do you like conspiracies now? See? Everyone can throw them out.

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Pkk also travels between Turkey and Iraq easily, does the Turkish govt also turn a blind eye you say? No country's border is 100% controllable.
Yes, im sure some isis members passed as fsa and then switched sides to isis. However, then we also reserve the right to criticize all those countries exporting their extremists to Turkey and expect us to sort them out. What does Russia for example to stop chechen extremists at its borders? I dont assume they leave through airport if they are on their wanted list. Same for EU countries.

Some Turks may have joined isis, but there are Iranians in Shia terror organizations too. Both of same coin.

 

[Serpentine]

Since Iran likes to keep Iraq and Syria in its pocket, of course it will immediately jump at isis. See?

Oh, I thought you said ISIS doesn't attack Iran because of a genius conclusion you tried to come up with: That we support ISIS or something like that. Now you are saying Iran immediately jumps at ISIS? What happened?

If you don't like such conspiracy theories, perhaps some people shouldn't throw such conspiracy theories about Turkey either.

Seriously bro? The whole point of my post was to show you how easy it is to throw random conspiracies around without any proof. You didn't get the point though. You tried to play smart by saying ISIS is supposed to attack Iran but it won't because blah blah. There was simply not a single word of logic in that as you claimed.

ISIS doesn't attack Iran because it simply can't. We have arrested dozens of ISIS cells, gave Iraq and Syria millions of dollars in weapons and cash to fight and kill them, sent hundreds of volunteers and advisers to Iraq and Syria to help fight them and bombed the hell out of them when we tried to approach our border and failed miserably. That's why ISIS can't launch major attacks in Iran. We don't share even 1 meter of border with ISIS and we certainly won't as we don't allow that.

Pkk also travels between Turkey and Iraq easily, does the Turkish govt also turn a blind eye you say? No country's border is 100% controllable.
Yes, im sure some isis members passed as fsa and then switched sides to isis. However, then we also reserve the right to criticize all those countries exporting their extremists to Turkey and expect us to sort them out. What does Russia for example to stop chechen extremists at its borders? I dont assume they leave through airport if they are on their wanted list. Same for EU countries.

I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself. I pointed out those allegations just to show you that it's not hard to accuse others of many things without proof. I didn't post them as 'facts' even if some of them might be true.

 

[usernameless]

Oh, I thought you said ISIS doesn't attack Iran because of a genius conclusion you tried to come up with: That we support ISIS or something like that. Now you are saying Iran immediately jumps at ISIS? What happened?



Seriously bro? The whole point of my post was to show you how easy it is to throw random conspiracies around without any proof. You didn't get the point though. You tried to play smart by saying ISIS is supposed to attack Iran but it won't because blah blah. There was simply not a single word of logic in that as you claimed.

ISIS doesn't attack Iran because it simply can't. We have arrested dozens of ISIS cells, gave Iraq and Syria millions of dollars in weapons and cash to fight and kill them, sent hundreds of volunteers and advisers to Iraq and Syria to help fight them and bombed the hell out of them when we tried to approach our border and failed miserably. That's why ISIS can't launch major attacks in Iran. We don't share even 1 meter of border with ISIS and we certainly won't as we don't allow that.



I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself. I pointed out those allegations just to show you that it's not hard to accuse others of many things without proof. I didn't post them as 'facts' even if some of them might be true.

My first post was purely counter-trolling intended against that Iranian guy who kept mentioning something like 'Turkey support(ed) isis', you should be able to see that from the tone of my post, you missed the point there. If others write illogical conspiracy theories about my country without any proof, then i can return the favor, right? Just like you claimed later on 'The whole point of my post was to show you how easy it is to throw random conspiracies around without any proof'.

Ah, but that's not how it works. When our country is targeted by such conspiracy theories for a long time here, it supposedly must be true, but when Iran or any country is targeted by conspiracy theories, it must be false. Don't measure with two sizes.

I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself. I pointed out those allegations just to show you that it's not hard to accuse others of many things without proof. I didn't post them as 'facts' even if some of them might be true.

I think exactly the same about the ones who accuse Turkey of founding and supporting isis, no matter how illogical their accusations are.

Btw, you haven't commented on everything i wrote in my last post. Is that because my explanation showcased the truth against such allegations and you couldn't be bothered to admit it or what?