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Saudi opposition to the Iranian nuclear deal is irrational

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Saudi opposition to the Iranian nuclear deal is irrational


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From the streets of Tehran to the White House, everybody was celebrating the initial nuclear agreement between Iran and world powers on April 5—except Israel, Saudi Arabia and Republicans.

However, the Saudi opposition to the deal is irrational.

Republicans have rejected the deal because of domestic political concerns. It is somewhat understandable for Israel to oppose the Iran deal, from a political realism perspective. The Israeli government does not oppose the deal because of Iran's nuclear threat, which the deal nullifies.

"Iran is going to have sanctions lifted, including crippling sanctions, pretty much up front," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in an interview with CNN following the announcement of the official agreement. "And that’s going to have billions and billions of dollars flow into the Iranian coffers, not for schools or hospitals or roads, but to pump up Iran’s terror machine throughout the world."

In the words of the Israeli prime minister, Iran's threat to Israel is not nuclear; it is financial and political because the Islamic Republic supports Israel's foes, namely Hezbollah and Hamas.

However, Saudi Arabia's opposition to the deal is not based on reason. While there are sectarian differences and geopolitical rivalries between Saudi Arabia and Iran, the two countries are not natural enemies. The Saudis claim to fear Iranian hegemony over the Arab World. As Arab Americans, we are concerned about the dwindling role of Arabs in their own affairs. But Iran did not take away influence from Saudi Arabia.

It was the Saudi incompetence, loss of direction and lack of regard for the aspiration of the Arab masses that allowed Iran to fill the power vacuum in Gaza, Lebanon, Iraq, Syria and Yemen.

Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam, is the largest and richest Arab country. However, the kingdom's disastrous foreign policy and chaotic leadership have become a burden on the Arab World. The Saudis abandoned the Palestinian cause and entered in an implied alliance with Israel. Iran gained a foothold in Lebanon and the Palestinian territories by supporting resistance movements like Hamas and Hezbollah. If Saudi Arabia had not placed a losing bet on Israel crushing the resistance and fulfilled its ethical obligation to support Arab struggle against Israeli colonialism, Iran would not have had the upper hand in the Levant.

Similarly in Iraq, Saudi Arabia was an acting partner in starving the Iraqi people for 13 years by enforcing the American sanctions after the first Gulf War. In 2003, the kingdom was a cheerleader for the U.S. invasion that overthrew Saddam Hussein, Iran's most feared foe. After the rise of ISIS, which Iraqis accuse Saudi Arabia of supporting, the Saudis were not concerned with the terrorist group that was massacring Iraqis and Syrians and tarnishing the image of Islam. Instead, they waited for the Americans to bomb ISIS and for Iran to fight the terrorists on the ground.

The Saudi sheiks have nobody to blame but themselves for their growing irrelevance in the world. The nuclear deal with Iran will not tip the scale in the Islamic Republic's favor in its confrontation with Saudi Arabia; the Gulf kingdom had already lost the battle because of lack of transparency and accountability.

Portraying Iran as the enemy does not empower Arabs. It only serves in faking the legitimacy of the Saudi royal family.
 
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Please post more useless columns highlighting your obsession about KSA and the 450 million or so Arabs.

I think that you have delivered 4-5 splendid threads in just the span of a few days already.

Especially post more articles written on dubious propaganda sites that contain no links nor names of authors even.

Carry one. Arabia/Arabs were here long before anyone else outside of Sub-Saharan Africans and East Africans and we will remain here till the end of times. You learned it the hard way in pre-Islamic times from us Semites and 1400 years ago from other Semites, the Arabs.
 
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Saudis concern is not about the nuclear part of the deal, their concern is just about there being A DEAL.

And I don't want to fully blame them. I can understand from their point of view. Since decades, Saudi Arabia has been comfortable in the Middle East. They had the world's biggest super power on their side, their wealth was increasing day by day, and their regional power seemed to be on the rise. Any rising regional super power did not have staying power. Nasser's Pan-Arabism in Egypt might have been a threat to Saudi but it did not last. Saddam might have been a strong competitor, but after failing Iran & Kuwait, he become unimportant. Islamic Awakening/Arab Spring was also slightly scary for a while for them, but it has since been smashed, specially in Egypt (remember KSA having a dispute with Qatar for the latter supporting the Muslim Brotherhood?).

So, the real concern remaining is currently Iran. So, it makes sense. It would make no sense if Saudi was not concerned over the deal.

Hopefully, problems between the two nations are worked out.
 
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Well iran is negotiating a peace deal like Libya did , and hoping for a different outcome
 
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Do you see me making any threads about Iran or visiting your Mullah infested section let alone writing there? Never. Those two threads (wow that were a lot) are related to KSA and Arabs in case that you have not realized this. If they were not I would not care.

On the other hand 20 or so Farsi users here are commenting on Arab affairs nonstop. As in all the time. You seem to be one of them judging from your posts just today. In that sense they are not different from the Iranian Arabs that rule them.
 
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On the other hand 20 or so Farsi users here are commenting on Arab affairs nonstop. As in all the time. You seem to be one of them judging from your posts just today. In that sense they are not different from the Iranian Arabs that rule them.

Before you accuse others for obsession , Please think about , What is the purpose of a forum?
A place to write comments So you do not have the right to slander others

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''commenting on Arab affairs''.........

What a great crime :rofl:

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''On the other hand 20 or so Farsi users here are commenting'' .......


Well they Exercising Their Rights....
Got it?:lol:

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Educate your self , son
Freedom of speech - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Before you accuse others for obsession , Please think about , What is the purpose of a forum?
A place to write comments So you do not have the right to slander others

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''commenting on Arab affairs''.........

What a great crime :rofl:

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''On the other hand 20 or so Farsi users here are commenting'' .......


Well they Exercising Their Rights....
Got it?:lol:

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Educate your self , son
Freedom of speech - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your English is weak I can see. Nobody prevents anyone from commenting on anything but we know which group of people that suffer from the biggest obsession on PDF which I just confirmed by telling you about the ground realities.

Trolling is not commenting which is what 90% of all Iranian users do whenever they discuss events in the Arab world or Arab affairs.
 
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Your English is weak I can see.

Thank goodness ,You can see
I thought you're blind:cheesy:

Trolling is not commenting which is what 90% of all Iranian users do whenever they discuss events in the Arab world or Arab affairs.

pot calling the kettle black:agree:

CORRECTION: Trolling is not commenting which is what 90% of all Arab users do whenever they discuss events in the Iran affairs:wave:
 
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Absolutely right deal is not the issue. Here it is a classic power struggle. SA is afraid that economically strong Iran will displace SA's influence in the region. Morever before Islamic revolution it was iran which had great influence in the region. There will be lot of questions on dynastic rule in SA and clamor for democracy. Iran with its democratic credentials poses more threat without firing a bullet. SA simply want every one to be like them.
Birds of same feather flock together.

Iran has a 5-6 times smaller economy than the GCC. KSA's influence is not dependent on Iran. Before the Iranian Revolution of 1979 Iran had close to no influence in the Arab world. Their "influence" today is much bigger than back then. For your information then KSA and Iran had cordial ties before 1979.

Iran is nowhere near being a democracy. Are you joking?:lol: Iran is no different from KSA. Neither is a democracy. Sadly for your information then every country is different from KSA in the region just like Iran is different from any country in the region.

No disrespect sir but I am sure that you are more knowledgeable about Indian/South Asia affairs than ME affairs.

Thank goodness ,You can see
I thought you're blind:cheesy:



pot calling the kettle black:agree:

CORRECTION: Trolling is not commenting which is what 90% of all Arab users do whenever they discuss events in the Iran affairs:wave:

I never knew that blind people could write so long posts this quickly.

Unfortunately your comparison is bogus as there are hardly any Arab users that are even discussing Iran on this forum. They can be counted on 1 single hand. 1 Arab user is writing on your section once in a while. Please don't write more jokes.:lol:
 
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Absolutely right deal is not the issue. Here it is a classic power struggle. SA is afraid that economically strong Iran will displace SA's influence in the region. Morever before Islamic revolution it was iran which had great influence in the region. There will be lot of questions on dynastic rule in SA and clamor for democracy. Iran with its democratic credentials poses more threat without firing a bullet. SA simply want every one to be like them.
Birds of same feather flock together.

Yes, exactly. And everything else "Arab/Non-Arab" or "Sunni/Shia" is all excuses.

If I'm honest and try to be unbiased, it makes perfect sense for the ruling family of Saudi to be concerned.

However, I do think Saudi is choosing its path very unwisely. I'm not saying they shouldn't look out for their best interests. I just think that they have to be more cautious.

Either Iran's keeps growing or it is destroyed. If the latter does not happen, then the sooner Saudi comes to terms with it, the better decisions they can make.
 
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Partly agree with you. You always need a outside fair perspective than depending on your reasoning which will obviously biased.
Irans economy is smaller yes, why? Bcos of sanctions. India's economy too was small in size in 1990 before we opened up. Iran has far more potential wrt economy. With respect to science , technology i would rate Iran above par with other countries in Gulf.

Make no mistake once the sanctions are gone, western companies will flock to Iran. It is a big market for goods and have better human resources potential.

You are totally missing the fact that the GCC is a unspoiled market too by large. Especially KSA. For various reasons. You are totally missing the fact that 66,66% of the GCC population is below 30 and that KSA alone has the 4th highest number of students at US universities after Chinese, Indians and South Koreans. All countries with many times bigger populations than KSA especially China and India. The fruits of that can already be seen and will be seen in the upcoming years much clearer.

You totally omit that the GCC states much like Iran are not democracies, that there are many stupid laws hindering further economic growth etc.

You are totally forgetting that a strong GCC or a strong Iran is not necessarily a bad thing for both parties if relations improved. Rather the opposite.

You are totally forgetting that the GCC already is a major economic power. In fact it's a 2 trillion dollar economy (GDP, nominal) and it's growing rapidly compared to most other economies.

Besides if you want to compare Arabs with Iran then you need to compare Iran with more than just the GCC but the entire Arab world and here Iran stands no chance on almost any comparison head to head which is only logical based on population, land etc. Just like comparisons between KSA and China makes no sense or the ME and the US.
 
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Besides if you want to compare Arabs with Iran then you need to compare Iran with more than just the GCC but the entire Arab world


I beg to differ. Iran's rival is Saudi Arabia, not the Arab world. Algeria, Iraq, Syria, Oman, Lebanon for example have good relations with Iran.
 
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