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No offense to anyone here but there is no need for Pakistan in the context of Yemen. That ship sailed a long time ago (2015).

As of 2022, KSA/Arab coalition/Yemeni government is in control of 85% of Yemen, the vast majority of the Yemeni population, the main ports, all the oil and gas fields (that help finance the expenses of the intervention) all with almost no casualties of note whether military or civilian. Meanwhile gaining untold military experience in a very complicated conflict (civil war) in a very challenging geography.

KSA's domestic military sector has been booming (and the country as a whole) ever since MBS and the new administration emerged. Long gone are the days of 1991 (Gulf War). In fact 2/3's of Saudi Arabians were not born at that time (Gulf War).

KSA is well capable of protecting Makkah and Madinah so nothing new here on that front.


If anything this deployment (doubtful) is to protect the royal family, I can't think of anything else.

Anyway a friendly reminder, KSA (Arabians from modern-day KSA) established some of the largest empires the world has ever seen stretching 3 continents (Asia, Europe, Africa), ruled the Islamic Caliphates from the very beginning to 1517 (for almost 1000 years) and not long ago the very foundation of KSA occurred through the blood and sacrifice of our own people (KSA was never a colony). In other words a warrior tradition is deeply ingrained in the people. As is our glorious imperial past.
The involvement of the US in KSA post Gulf War is a complex story but rest assured when **** hits the fan, the people will sacrifice themselves for their own country and holy lands as seen since 2015.


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Now with women as well (once again):

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Lastly the Yemeni civil war is a Yemeni conflict first and foremost but as it impacts KSA directly and the Arabian Peninsula it is also an Arab conflict. Meaning that this civil war/conflict will be solved by Arabs as other such conflicts in the past and not foreigners at the end of the day.
 
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No offense to anyone here but there is no need for Pakistan in the context of Yemen. That ship sailed a long time ago (2015).

As of 2022, KSA/Arab coalition/Yemeni government is in control of 85% of Yemen, the vast majority of the Yemeni population, the main ports, all the oil and gas fields (that help finance the expenses of the intervention) all with almost no casualties of note whether military or civilian. Meanwhile gaining untold military experience in a very complicated conflict (civil war) in a very challenging geography.

KSA's domestic military sector has been booming (and the country as a whole) ever since MBS and the new administration emerged. Long gone are the days of 1991 (Gulf War). In fact 2/3's of Saudi Arabians were not born at that time (Gulf War).

KSA is well capable of protecting Makkah and Madinah so nothing new here on that front.


If anything this deployment (doubtful) is to protect the royal family, I can't think of anything else.

Anyway a friendly reminder, KSA (Arabians from modern-day KSA) established some of the largest empires the world has ever seen stretching 3 continents (Asia, Europe, Africa), ruled the Islamic Caliphates from the very beginning to 1517 (for almost 1000 years) and not long ago the very foundation of KSA occurred through the blood and sacrifice of our own people (KSA was never a colony). In other words a warrior tradition is deeply ingrained in the people. As is our glorious imperial past.
The involvement of the US in KSA post Gulf War is a complex story but rest assured when **** hits the fan, the people will sacrifice themselves for their own country and holy lands as seen since 2015.


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Now with women as well (once again):

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What's there to feel offended at?
All of the things you mentioned are a good thing
 
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Most of us will never approve of what is being done in Yemen, but we have no choice. If they can give us some financial assistance sure.

But the downside is that the corrupt elite will again have no incentives to introduce reforms. After the war same old going to IMF.

tough choice.
 
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The Saudis have a military budget of 50+ billion USD. Why on earth would they need our support? What difference would a single military brigade make?

That single brigade will fight better and more professionally than the entire Saudi Army. The Saudis know it, the Houthis know it, Iran knows it and we know it.
 
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Someone correct me if this is even legally possible under international law/constitution/Pak military rules:

The Saudis could create a brigade under the Saudi Army specifically for foreign volunteers. PA soldiers can then take leave and volunteer to join this brigade of their own volition. After their deployment they could then give an amnesty to re join the Pak Army if they wish. The government could also start sending humanitarian aid to Houthi run areas to stay neutral and keep both sides satisfied.

Of course this should never be considered unless large investments, dirt cheap oil imports, and all expenses paid are also on the table.
 
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No offense to anyone here but there is no need for Pakistan in the context of Yemen. That ship sailed a long time ago (2015).

As of 2022, KSA/Arab coalition/Yemeni government is in control of 85% of Yemen, the vast majority of the Yemeni population, the main ports, all the oil and gas fields (that help finance the expenses of the intervention) all with almost no casualties of note whether military or civilian. Meanwhile gaining untold military experience in a very complicated conflict (civil war) in a very challenging geography.

KSA's domestic military sector has been booming (and the country as a whole) ever since MBS and the new administration emerged. Long gone are the days of 1991 (Gulf War). In fact 2/3's of Saudi Arabians were not born at that time (Gulf War).

KSA is well capable of protecting Makkah and Madinah so nothing new here on that front.


If anything this deployment (doubtful) is to protect the royal family, I can't think of anything else.

Anyway a friendly reminder, KSA (Arabians from modern-day KSA) established some of the largest empires the world has ever seen stretching 3 continents (Asia, Europe, Africa), ruled the Islamic Caliphates from the very beginning to 1517 (for almost 1000 years) and not long ago the very foundation of KSA occurred through the blood and sacrifice of our own people (KSA was never a colony). In other words a warrior tradition is deeply ingrained in the people. As is our glorious imperial past.
The involvement of the US in KSA post Gulf War is a complex story but rest assured when **** hits the fan, the people will sacrifice themselves for their own country and holy lands as seen since 2015.


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Now with women as well (once again):

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Lastly the Yemeni civil war is a Yemeni conflict first and foremost but as it impacts KSA directly and the Arabian Peninsula it is also an Arab conflict. Meaning that this civil war/conflict will be solved by Arabs as other such conflicts in the past and not foreigners at the end of the day.

What you say indeed its true. As a matter of fact KSA doesn't need any military support from Pak. However Pakistani boots on the grounds even as small as a brigade in KSA will be a big political win against Iranian regime that an important Muslim country and Iranian neighbour with 220M people are behinds KSA regime and this would be a very big psychological advantage for KSA and that what she sought out here.
 
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What you say indeed its true. As a matter of fact KSA doesn't need any military support from Pak. However Pakistani boots on the grounds even as small as a brigade in KSA will be a big political win against Iranian regime that an important Muslim country and Iranian neighbour with 220M people are behinds KSA regime and this would be a very big psychological advantage for KSA and that what she sought out here.
You barely can feed your population. There are daily attacks on your army from insurgents, your land is occupied by India and yet you want to send an army to Saudi to piss of Iran.

Does it make sense to you? Perhaps you just laughed at your own comment. Its okay.
 
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You barely can feed your population. There are daily attacks on your army from insurgents, your land is occupied by India and yet you want to send an army to Saudi to piss of Iran.

Does it make sense to you? Perhaps you just laughed at your own comment. Its okay.

We are one of the only countries that can feed our own people, because our country isn’t covered in desert unlike you sand people.
 
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You barely can feed your population. There are daily attacks on your army from insurgents, your land is occupied by India and yet you want to send an army to Saudi to piss of Iran.

Does it make sense to you? Perhaps you just laughed at your own comment. Its okay.

It is Pakistan that occupies a territory larger then Austria from India not the other way around.. You can't even feed your own ppl..

who the fuk is eryan? they will send army everywhere you are nobody... Nobody gives an F' regionally Turkey, KSA and UAE all invaded ragtags support by them.. What makes you think Pak will give a shxt
 
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You barely can feed your population. There are daily attacks on your army from insurgents, your land is occupied by India and yet you want to send an army to Saudi to piss of Iran.

Does it make sense to you? Perhaps you just laughed at your own comment. Its okay.
I think the crudeness in your comment is evident that my analysis is correct. And by the way, we have already liberated half of Kashmir militarily some 75 years ago the moment its king side with India officially and still holding it out despite 7 times bigger of an adversary.
 
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I believe that Pakistan must stop allowing itself to be dictated to by Riyadh-Najd. Pakistan is a sovereign nation and it should act as such. Riyadh-Najd is a puppet regime of Washington DC who obeys their orders.

If Pakistan seeks to be a country with an independent foreign policy, then Pakistan must decouple it's economic ties from its foreign policy. This would expose whether ties with another state are based on political lines or purely trade. Failure to do so would see Pakistan trapping itself in situations such as this one.

Riyadh-Najd has been fighting a war against Yemen, based on the dictaté of the West. The people of Yemen have the right to choose whom they want to establish trade and political ties with. Riyadh-Najd has pursued a political strategy of imposing it's will on other states since day one. Be it Qatar, Egypt, Bahrain or Yemen, the tact remains predictably the same.

Logic dictates that Pakistan should establish ties of mutual respect and benefits with it's immediate neighbor, Iran. In doing so, Pakistan stands to benefit from a unifying BRI program led by China who not only happens to be another immediate neighbor of Pakistan, but also the most important strategic and political ally of the state.

Today, as the geopolitical landscape is dramatically shifting toward an East vs West, it is Riyadh-Najd who finds itself on the wrong side of the geopolitical spectrum. As it stands, China and Russia are the ones who have a economic and military stability as opposed to the West. Where China is investing trillions of dollars on infrastructure and development, globally, not the West. The latter has shown it's track record over the last 30 years, of starting wars, sponsoring terrorism (clandestinely) and imposing it's narrative and will on other nation states.
Beggars can’t be choosers. On one hand we keep asking Saudis for financial help & then show our attitude. This is the time to helping our Saudi Brothers.
 
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Wonderful.

Why is it that when Pakistanis smell Saudi dollar, they try to scapegoat Iran? Man we don't care if you want to make the mistake that you made in Afghan case. Make your soldiers cannon fodders of Arabs for all we Care. Why do you try to make Iran your excuse?

For many years Pakistan gave its Balochistan up to trouble makers and got backfired in the same location.

Its an open source osint that UAE is the main force behind Baloch seperatists and Uzair Baloch was a bright example for it. Even after getting slapped by UAE and KSA specially after Arab support for Kashmir massacre, you Pakistanis try to beg for their money and sell them your lives.

Its really pathetic.

Btw, Israeli pilots, Emirati pilots, western naval force plus western made military hardwares plus paid elements from poor African countries are already dying and failing in Yemen and its coastlines. It won't change the ground reality not even a bit to see Pakistani forces join Saudi ranks. Sauds and their soldiers will stay at home and Pakistanis will die in someone else's war for all Arabs and others could Care.
 
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So a brigade is what, 4000 men ?

Defensive role is okay. But still it will make us party of the conflict and we will no longer be unbiased observer. I also don't understand why KSA will need a brigade from PA ? I mean they are more then capable of protecting their own soil and they have been doing so since years now (houthis didn't just came today). Still, I agree to the request but with following conditions.

1. All the expense of that brigade is paid from KSA armed forces budget.

2. And we choose the place where we want to station those soldiers. Some Arab guy dictating our soldiers and running a circus won't be okay.

3. Every soldier will get secondary pay, obviously. As they also pay secondary salary when on space missions to other countries so yah.

4. And yes we want deals on investments. No loans, no grants. Invest here.



I think I can come up with a conspiracy theory on that. Maybe Saudis somehow wants to drag us in the conflict. We send brigade for defensive roles and suddenly it get huge attacks from houthis "allegedly". Killing hundreds of our soldier. Kaboom. Now you are fighting Yemen houthis as well as Iran.
Iran is already fighting with us
 
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There are already Pakistani troops stationed in Saudi Arabia. I've even seen PAF personnel at the airport. We are already close with Saudi and hopefully in future get even closer to burn the Stone and Fire Worshippers.
 
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