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loool! Did you see his answers to my post? They don't even make any sense it's like he was answering something else completely LOL!

Check out the one about Israel milking the US, he replied thinking I said Egypt was milking someone else lmaooooO!
you get bilions from the gulf
 
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Check out the one about Israel milking the US, he replied thinking I said Egypt
Me for one is okay with giving Israel milk.... and honey if it needs be. But giving it to your Egypt? uhhmn... Your Sadat backstabbed all Arabs when you made peace with Israel. F*ck it! You kissed 'em with your mouths open on the 1st date. Even went up to 3rd base..... or home run. That says alot what kind of principles you have.

you get bilions from the gulf
agreed and yet we don't hear any complaints to the Gulf peeps right? But if its the USA of A and Israel.... prepare you @ss for complaints and butthurt.
 
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Me for one is okay with giving Israel milk.... and honey if it needs be. But giving it to your Egypt? uhhmn... Your Sadat backstabbed all Arabs when you made peace with Israel. F*ck it! You kissed 'em with your mouths open on the 1st date. Even went up to 3rd base..... or home run. That says alot what kind of principles you have.


agreed and yet we don't hear any complaints to the Gulf peeps right? But if its the USA of A and Israel.... prepare you @ss for complaints and butthurt.

Gulf states give Egypt $22 billion to mitigate fallout from Ukraine war​

Cairo has secured $22 billion from the United Arab Emirates, Qatar and Saudi Arabia to cover Egypt's current account deficit.
Egyptians smile for a photo as they buy fruits from a street vendor at a market in the Menufiya province north of Cairo on Feb. 22, 2018.

Egyptians smile for a photo as they buy fruits from a street vendor at a market in Menufiya province north of Cairo, Egypt, Feb. 22, 2018. - Mohamed el-Shahed/AFP via Getty Images
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The Abu Dhabi Developmental Holding, a sovereign wealth fund based in the capital of the United Arab Emirates (UAE), announced March 23 its intention to invest $2 billion in Egypt through the purchase of stakes in a number of state-owned companies, Asharq Business reported. Approximately half of this amount, the news site noted, will be used to acquire about 18% of Commercial International Bank, while the remainder will be invested in companies in sectors such as fertilizers and port services.
Just a week later, on March 29, Qatar announced an agreement to place another $5 billion “in the coming period” in a series of investments and partnerships in Egypt, according to a statement from the Egyptian government. To implement the agreement, the two parties agreed to establish a joint higher committee led by their foreign ministers. And as Egypt’s Minister of Planning Hala Elsaid told Bloomberg, the Qatar Investment Authority, the country’s sovereign wealth fund, will hold the proposed investments.
One day later, it was the turn of Saudi Arabia. On March 30, Riyadh announced that it had deposited $5 billion in the Central Bank of Egypt, the Saudi Press Agency reported. And on the same day, Egyptian Prime Minister Mustafa Madbouly announced that in the coming period Egypt expects to attract up to $10 billion in investments from Saudi Arabia after witnessing the signing of an agreement to facilitate the Saudi Public Investment Fund activities in Egypt, according to a Cabinet statement.
The pledge of some $22 billion from Gulf states announced in a matter of days comes at a time when Egypt is experiencing a deep financial crisis that the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the ongoing global economic uncertainty has only helped to accelerate. In this context, the assistance from the Gulf is expected to at least neutralize for now some of its more urgent imbalances and vulnerabilities, albeit at a considerable price.
“The new announcements of support are [substantial] in the context of Egypt’s external financing needs, Central Bank of Egypt reserves and past support,” Krisjanis Krustins, director of Sovereigns at Fitch Ratings, told Al-Monitor. “Besides shoring up investor confidence, [Gulf] support will directly inject foreign exchange into Egypt’s economy and financial system, reducing the need for borrowing on the international markets.”
The Gulf countries have for decades played an important role in Egypt’s economy. But it was above all after the seizure of power by the current President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi in 2013 that its financial assistance — consisting of billions of dollars primarily aimed at shoring up an allied government — entered a new dimension. The weight of this support diminished following the 2016 agreement between Egypt and the International Monetary Fund (IMF), which included a $12 billion loan subject to a program of reforms, and the entry of bond investors. In 2020, after the outbreak of the coronavirus pandemic, Cairo also had to turn to the IMF to deal with the economic shock, securing two more loans.
Yet despite all this assistance, Egypt has not been able to fully turn its economy around and it remains deeply vulnerable to external shocks. Even before the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Egypt was suffering from a worrying capital flight widely attributed to a volatile global economic situation. According to a recent report by Fitch Ratings, between September and December 2021, $5 billion left the country. Since the onset of the war, hundreds of millions of dollars more have left its treasury markets as investors flee for safer markets, Reuters has reported. And the early maturity of a substantial portion of its debt adds to Egypt’s imminent funding needs, Fitch Ratings has noted.
The conflict in Eastern Europe has also dealt a severe blow to Egypt’s tourism sector, which represents another of its key sources of foreign currency, and it has further driven up prices of basic commodities, such as wheat and oil, on whose imports the country is heavily dependent. Egypt’s deficit is also set to remain high this year. And the central bank stated April 7 that its net international reserves dropped to $37 billion in March compared to almost $41 billion by the end of February, the lowest point registered since mid-2020.
“Egypt has one of the highest debt burdens in the world, one of the highest shares of government revenues going on [debt] interests and one of the highest shares of government interest payments as percentage of the gross domestic product [GDP],” said Charles Robertson, global chief economist at the frontier investment bank Renaissance Capital. He told Al-Monitor, “This $22 billion support from Qatar, the UAE and Saudi Arabia is a very big deal. It’s 4% of the GDP and it covers the current account deficit of Egypt.”
The announcements of financial support came after Sisi’s tour of several Gulf states in the first months of the year. The Egyptian president first visited the UAE, where he met the country’s ruler Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan and King of Bahrain Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa. In February, Sisi went to Kuwait. And in March, he traveled to Saudi Arabia and hosted Al Nahyan in the Egyptian city of Sharm el-Sheikh. According to the independent Egyptian online publication Mada Masr, citing official sources, the tour’s goal was to secure direct financial cooperation agreements, particularly from Riyadh.
“[Gulf] states have provided significant support to Egypt in the past, including $15 billion remaining in deposits at the Central Bank of Egypt before the Ukraine war. Further support was always a possibility, especially at a time when the oil price windfall significantly eases budget strains in the [Gulf] itself,” Krustins noted.
Yet the assistance offered now by the Gulf is different from that provided between 2013 and 2016. “The 2013-2016 aid was a mix of grants, in the form of fuel, and deposits, roughly $15 billion each. This time, so far, we have $5 billion in deposits and $17 billion in investment pledges,” David Butter, an analyst who has recently published a study on the relations between Egypt and the Gulf, told Al-Monitor.
“It feels there has been a shift. Now [the support] is more toward investment. So it’s quite long-term thinking. It’s [more about] how to support the private sector. It’s not just supporting a government. That’s quite an important change,” Robertson noted.
Cairo’s ability to secure financial assistance from its allies in the Gulf is also regarded as a possible IMF condition for agreeing to a new loan to Egypt. At the end of March, the financial institution announced in a short statement that the Egyptian authorities have officially requested its support to implement a comprehensive economic program.
“Egypt relied 100% on the Gulf from 2013 to 2015. They gave all their support to Sisi. From 2016 to 2020, it was the IMF and my clients — bond investors in America and Europe — that helped Egypt. Today it seems to be a mix of both,” Robertson noted.
The veiled bailout from the Gulf and a potential new IMF loan, however, has also given rise to criticism among those who consider that Cairo has not made the necessary economic reforms in recent years so as not to rely on further assistance.
“Egypt’s government has attempted to suggest that the reason it finds itself once again in economic difficulty is strictly due to external shocks beyond its control. While these external shocks undoubtedly increased Egypt’s challenges, there is no denying that poor governance and economic mismanagement contributed significantly to Egypt’s economic vulnerability,” Timothy Kaldas, policy fellow at the Tahrir Institute for Middle East Policy, said. He told Al-Monitor, “There's no denying that the pandemic and war made things harder for Egypt, but poor decision-making by Egypt’s government made the country far more vulnerable to these external shocks.”
Despite such criticism, Egypt has received consistent praise from the IMF for its "resilience" and commitment to macroeconomic stability, structural reforms and new safety protections during the coronavirus pandemic. Egypt was one for the few economies in the world that sustained positive GDP growth — of 2.8% — during the pandemic.
The Gulf pledges have also generated unease due to the economic and political implications they may entail. Economically, Cairo has taken significant steps in recent weeks to pave the way for the arrival of this assistance. In addition to the various bilateral agreements signed with the Gulf countries, the central bank raised interest rates in early March and devalued the pound. This last measure was especially applauded by the IMF, which also hinted in its statement that any further assistance would be conditional on its usual austerity recipe.
Kaldas also noted that Egypt will have to pay a considerable price for Gulf assistance. “Most funds from the Gulf this time around are coming in the form of investments. This means the Gulf backers of the Egyptian government are pledging money in exchange for Egyptian state assets. They aren’t just handing out cash assistance and low interest loans like before. They expect to profit from their aid to Egypt this time,” he added.
On March 30, for instance, Abu Dhabi Ports Group, one of the region’s largest logistics and transportation companies, announced the signing of an initial agreement with Egypt to manage the operations of the Red Sea port of Ain Sokhna and to manage and operate a river port in Minya governorate, it said in a statement.
On April 4, Egypt’s sovereign wealth fund CEO Ayman Soliman told Al Arabiya TV that the firms targeted by the Saudi Public Investment Fund may include the state-owned Wataniya Petroleum and three power plants built by Siemens.
Politically, assistance from the Gulf has also been widely interpreted as trying to prevent Egypt’s economic challenges from turning into political pressure. But more critically, aid from the UAE and Saudi Arabia could also be subject to greater support from Cairo for a new regional security scheme primarily designed to confront Iran. At the end of March, Mada Masr reported that Cairo remains quite skeptical to further tie its foreign policy to its powerful Gulf allies, but that the country remains under strong economic dependence.

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Gulf countries supported Egypt with $92bn since 2011​


March 19, 2019 at 11:32 am | Published in: Africa, Egypt, Kuwait, Middle East, News, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE
People walk past the Egyptian Central Bank in downtown Cairo on 3 November 2016. [KHALED DESOUKI/AFP via Getty Images]

People walk past the Egyptian Central Bank in downtown Cairo on 3 November 2016 [KHALED DESOUKI/AFP via Getty Images]

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Gulf countries have supported Egypt with nearly $92 billion since the revolution that overthrew the regime of President Hosni Mubarak in 2011.
Sources in the Central Bank of Egypt told the New Khaleej news site that the Gulf countries' support for Egypt included aid, grants, loans and deposits in the Central Bank on which interest is payable.
Egypt has also received oil and in-kind assistance, especially during the first two years following the military coup of 3 July 2013.
The top Gulf donors were Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, followed by Kuwait, Oman, Bahrain, and Qatar.
Saudi Arabia gave Egypt five deposits worth $8 billion while Saudi Aramco supplies Cairo with 700,000 tonnes of petroleum products each month through a Saudi loan of $23.5 billion for five years.
READ: UAE eases Qatar shipping ban amid Gulf blockade
During the rule of coup leader President Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi, Egypt has received deposits from the UAE worth $6 billion, due to be repaid in installments until the end of 2023. The UAE has also supported the Egyptian economy with an $8.6 billion loan to finance the purchase of petroleum products.
Meanwhile, Kuwait has deposited $4 billion into the Egyptian Central Bank to boost the country's reserves.
Last year, the governor of the Central Bank of Egypt, Tariq Amer announced that Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Kuwait have agreed to postpone the repayment of deposits scheduled for the fiscal year 2018/ 2019.
 
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I fear that these projects aren't as indigenous as it may look at first glance. The teams/companies/organisations/infrastructures being built or used in Saudi Arabia are almost always under the full control of their American partners. Very often the Saudis aren't allowed to absorb the TOT to its fullest extent.
I dont think anything in middle-east is indigenous.
 
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Me for one is okay with giving Israel milk.... and honey if it needs be. But giving it to your Egypt? uhhmn... Your Sadat backstabbed all Arabs when you made peace with Israel. F*ck it! You kissed 'em with your mouths open on the 1st date. Even went up to 3rd base..... or home run. That says alot what kind of principles you have.
I bet you know that this was known and agreed on by the gulf intelligence wise it was no suprise it was no "Backstab"
And if you are copying and pasting YOUR principles and applying them to ours we wouldve colonized libya already in other words "Spread Democracy"
 
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No such thing as Democracy in Egypt.
Yeah our governates arent considering seperation like texas is
Our governates arent thinking of their own mind being a state within a state like Basra in iraq is
Our political ideology isnt so inconsistent
Presidents dont delete the previous actions of other presidents just out of hate of the other party
What is democracy between 2 singular parties?
Our constitutional court and goverment arent isnt being changed every week because of leadership incomptence equalling to political unstability like in Israel
If we had democracy as a soloution in these hard times sinai wouldve been israeli teritory by now
 
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Saudi Arabia will start manufacturing key parts for an advanced defense system
• Raytheon is preparing to transfer and localize multiple defense production lines, including Patriot and THAAD, to the Kingdom
• Raytheon chose the Kingdom because of its strategic location in the middle of three continents and serving its international and regional business
 
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Saudi companies working on the project to localize the THAAD air defense system. This is the first project of its kind outside America.


Lockheed Martin plans to deliver to Saudi Arabia the first battery of the THAAD air defense missile system in 2023 - The Kingdom requested (44) THAAD launchers, (360) interceptor missiles, (16) THAAD fire control stations, mobile tactical communications stations and (7) AN/TPY-2 THAAD radars.

In other news:


The Saudi Air Defense RSADF is in serious negotiations with the American L3Harris to buy the vampire air defense system • VAMPIRE• Capable of hitting air and ground targets as Saudi Arabia continues its endeavors to obtain more short and medium-range air defense systems as part of its plan.

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RSADF is going to have a formidable multilayered air defense force. It is already one of the most experienced out there. Impressive stuff.
 
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RSADF is going to have a formidable multilayered air defense force. It is already one of the most experienced out there. Impressive stuff.

Indeed, very impressive. Once it's all put in place and command & control is setup and its tested and working well, it will be impenetrable.
 
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• The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia inaugurates a factory to manufacture the main power units for missile defense radars

• Local production of a major component of the AN/TPY-2 missile defense radar will begin in Jeddah

• This AN/TPY-2 radar is part of the THAAD system, which is one of the most advanced and modern air defense systems.
 
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