Saudi Arabia has been granted full membership of the Financial Action Task Force (FATF)

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Saudi fanboys need to give an answer to this.

How will Allah swt answer the curses of these parents against the KSA coalition for what they did to Yemenis?

What answer will you give in front of Allah swt, MBS?

 

[Yankee-stani]

Is that why polls in Pakistan show that KSA is the most liked foreign country? Is that why I see 1000's of pro-KSA Pakistanis on social media daily? Is that why ties between the common people (those who actually have the slightest of knowledge about KSA, Saudi Arabians etc. unlike the lot commenting in this thread by writing utter nonsense) are and have always been great, why every Pakistani regime in power similarly including the military (that de facto rules the country) and the deep state? Clerics are just one small part of it.

Yes and if the Arab world was 1 country we would not be having this discussion. Things are as they are. No point discussing something else than the reality.

My arguments are crystal clear and based on facts and nothing else. Nonsense replies of KSA being blamed for Afghanistan being a perpetual shithole, Taliban (indigenous creation) etc. is not something I will take seriously. Even more less when Pakistan had a much greater role in Afghanistan in the 1980's than KSA had which does not even share a land border with Afghanistan.

Pakistanis like Saudi only because of holy sites,and religious significance not for the House of Saud and its policies you will hear this from Pakistanis we will defend Makkah and Medina but nothing else besides that of course you are Saudi national you have your own narrative I cant push my views on to you but your preception are wrong on Pakistan we like every Muslim Country but not the rulers or policies

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Pakistanis like Saudi only because of holy sites,and religious significance not for the House of Saud and its policies you will hear this from Pakistanis we will defend Makkah and Medina but nothing else besides that of course you are Saudi nationsl you have your own narrative I cant push my views on to you but your preception are wrong on Pakistan we like every Muslim Country but nit the rulers or policies

Exactly, Pakistani public is against the war on Yemen and also supportive of Qatar.

We have an equally optimistic view of Iran, whom we also support politically and religiously.

We have no personal ill-will against KSA, but like Iran in Syria, we disapprove of the proxy war against Yemen and the isolation of Qatar.

We also are not too happy about the violent coup in Egypt supported by KSA. Muhammad Morsi was popular in Pakistan, and it has caused much anger at Sisi and MBS.

 

[Pandora]

The Saudis once asked us for Acess to Nukes we said no lol but sadly the civilian leaders were butt kissing Riyadh as usual

They tried their best to get our nukes but circumstances prevented them. They simply didnt want any sanctions on themselves. They threw us under the bus and gifted us with scumbags like Nawaz sharif who stole billions from our taxpayers.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

They tried their best to get our nukes but circumstances prevented them. They simply didnt want any sanctions on themselves. They threw us under the bus and gifted us with scumbags like Nawaz sharif who stole billions from our taxpayers.

When scumbag Nawaz fled Pakistan, which country gave him asylum?

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Saudi fanboys need to give an answer to this.

How will Allah swt answer the curses of these parents against the KSA coalition for what they did to Yemenis?

What answer will you give in front of Allah swt, MBS?

None of those are Yemenis but illegal Horn of Africa migrants and none of this has anything to do with KSA, the Arab coalition or the legitimate Yemeni government. Nobody starves in 85% of Yemen (controlled by KSA, Arab coalition and legitimate Yemeni government). KSA is likewise the greatest donor to Yemen as always. It is not the fault of KSA, Arab coalition or the legitimate Yemeni government that the Houthi terrorist cult is starving civilians in the few areas of Yemen that they control.

 

[Pandora]

Yeah nice try to sugarcoat your arguements with corny 80s Arab film stills

He is just showing his typical saudi arrogance. Only if they actually knew a bit about islam they would simply die with shame.

When scumbag Nawaz fled Pakistan, which country gave him asylum?

And then who financed this scum bags (Nawaz Shriefs) way back to power.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

The Saudis once asked us for Acess to Nukes we said no lol but sadly the civilian leaders were butt kissing Riyadh as usual

it is an open secret that KSA will be under a nuclear umbrella of Pakistan in case of any existential threat (unlikely to ever be the case to begin with). Not strange when KSA helped finance that program and much of the Pakistani military throughout the decades.

In any case KSA will soon have the most complex nuclear infrastructure in the MENA region with almost 20 nuclear reactors. KSA being home to 5% of the world's uranium (possibly more) and uranium extraction ongoing, a research nuclear reactor already having been built, 30+ years of cooperation with China on our ballistic missile program (missiles able to carry nukes already 30 years ago) and nuclear weapons being ancient technology points to a lot of different things and all of them positive ones from the perspective of KSA.

Changing as in what they did to Khashoggi? There is zero difference between saudis and iranis. Both are bunch of cowards responsible for destruction of every single country from yemen to syria by use of proxies. Unable to fight by themselves they use innocent people as tools against each other. Allah Knows all and he is watching who is killing who and if not in this duniya they will suffer for their deeds in Akhirat. Their sins won't just wash away by money and they cant take their money into their graves.

Don't compare us to a sanctioned and utterly failed entity (40 years running) while we have the most extensive ties with Muslim countries from Indonesia in the East to Mauritania in the West while also having positive ties with all 3 superpowers simultaneously. Khashoggi was a traitor and traitors are dealt with harshly by any state. KSA is not using proxies unlike Iran either. We fight our own wars (Yemen). Not hiding behind a few terrorist Shia Arab proxies or Shia Pakistani or Afghan mercenaries (cannon fodder) sent to Syria in the 1000's never to return. Have some shame.

 

[Pandora]

Don't compare us to a sanctioned and utterly failed entity (40 years running) while we have the most extensive ties with Muslim countries from Indonesia in the East to Mauritania in the West while also having positive ties with all 3 superpowers simultaneously. Khashoggi was a traitor and traitors are dealt with harshly by any state. KSA is not using proxies unlike Iran either. We fight our own wars (Yemen). Not hide behind Shia Arabs or Pakistani or Afghan mercenaries (cannon fodder) sent to Syria in the 1000's never to return. Have some shame.

Whatever makes you Happy

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

If KSA willfully attacks Iran as it clamors to do, you will find that nuclear umbrella gone in an instant. Pakistan will not be a party to an illegal invasion of a brotherly Muslim nation. We will push through humanitarian and medical assistance to Iran as we did during Iraq's aggression.

Likewise if Iran attacked KSA and was the aggressor.

We are neither pro-Sunni nor pro-Shia, we are simply pro-Pakistan and pro-Muslim Unity.

 

[B.K.N]

Saudi fanboys need to give an answer to this.

How will Allah swt answer the curses of these parents against the KSA coalition for what they did to Yemenis?

What answer will you give in front of Allah swt, MBS?

A country named Iran ruled by religious extremists is responsible for all this

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

A country named Iran ruled by religious extremists is responsible for all this

Not what Yemenis think.

There is another country famous for being American bootlickers...

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Whatever makes you Happy

I am always happy especially when interacting with Arabized and Arab-obsessed individuals who are spreading baseless utter nonsense in this thread.

Yet to explain to me what KSA has to do with Afghanistan being a shithole, Taliban (indigenous ideology) or the fact that Pakistan was more deeply involved in Afghanistan during the 1980's than KSA was. Which any sane person can conclude given that Afghanistan borders you while KSA does not border that country.

Imagine, a country that has done more for you than anyone else (KSA), host your largest diaspora that sends billions of USD in remittances due to your own politicians having failed in Pakistan proper NOT KSA, bails you out in every trouble (nuclear program, sanctions, economic trouble, as most recently), a country that is supporting you in the international arena a country which whom your military and deep state has incredibly close ties to etc. A county that millions of Pakistanis visit for Hajj and Umrah. A country that you have historical, religious, cultural, linguistic, ancestral etc. ties with as well. A country that is is the origin of all of your sects and that of most of your Sufi "saints".

Some nonsense about some schools. What nonsense is that? KSA has not funded a single school or mosque without the approval of the Pakistani state. KSA has been funding mosques and schools in the millions from Mauritania to Indonesia and interestingly enough terrorists emerging from said mosques and schools can be counted on a few hands. Talk about nonsense. Yes, blame all the faults inside Pakistan on KSA. That will help you solve them for sure.

Just to be sure, do you blame this below on KSA as well?

Or that horrible documentary about drug addictions among children in Karachi, poverty, HIV epidemic, prostitution, truck drivers molesting small boys etc.? I was horrified after seeing that documentary and felt incredibly sorry for the people but using your logic this is all the fault of KSA, right and some imaginary mosques and schools that have nothing to do with the above but teach the exact opposite, right?

Iran using 1000's of Pakistanis as cannon fodder in Syria is also the fault of KSA, right?

Please explain the above.

 

[B.K.N]

Not what Yemenis think.

There is another country famous for being American bootlickers...

Only wannabe Iranis think like this
and in case of war Pakistan would stay neautral

 

[Max]

GCC vote was in the affirmative the first time for pakistan. Why did it change against it?

First vote:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/pakist...tional-terror-financing-watch-list-1519257040

Second vote:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/with-u-s-push-pakistan-placed-on-terror-finance-list-1519401064

In an unusual move, Washington pushed a second vote on the issue late Thursday evening after U.S. officials confronted Riyadh’s representatives to remind them of the extensive partnership the two countries share. After Saudi Arabia subsequently dropped support Pakistan, China abandoned the challenge, according to officials representing the task-force membership.

@MastanKhan

So yeah, the whole saudi didnt have a vote because it was the "GCC" spiel doesn't really fly.

There are also lot of articles out there stating one of the things US said to KSA was if you want to be a seperate member in FATF, you will have to back the grey listing. Seems it just continued on the black list front.

Besides if your assertion is that it was the rest of GCC that was against and pushed the vote their way (against what KSA wanted) for both grey listing and black listing....lets see the articles/evidence stating that.

In any case full membership of KSA now and further voting on the issue will fully clarify it beyond any doubt.

ISaudi were offered full membership if they withdraw their support, Chinese were lured with offer of vice Presidency of FATF. Arranging 3 votes is not difficult for China they also have Hong Kong vote. It was all discusse back then if I recall correctly.

But we can't blame them for.looking after their interests, Pakistan can't stand US witch Hunt no matter what. If it was not FATF they would have tried at some other forums.