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Slavs aren't really friends of people of color.
which countries that have majority people of color were invaded and occupied by the Slavs? i think this comment is reckless and false - Anglosaxon British ARE THE WORST colonialists, period.
 
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The Russian army has been battered badly.
But Ukraine's military barely exists today, and it cant exist without NATO - good try hypocrite. US army got battered in every recent war, so i feel you're just projecting US's situation onto Russia,.
They have taken a hit to their reputation.
and Ukraine has taken a hit to its sovereignty- it will never be the same again, or get back some territories from Russia.
They have broken their brotherly bonds with some Ukranians.
thats what Ukraine did to Russia by selling out its slavic brothers to NATO- but luckily for Ukraine, NATO loses every war, so Ukraine's nationhood will get remixed next year irreversibly.
 
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Soviets were always there for India. India should help out. Plus Americans are no ones friends.

The USSR's relationship may have been offered to India with post-1947 sincerity not only because the USSR was a society seeking to induce its progressive revolution to other societies, but also because the Indian Communist movement was formally formed in 1920, three years after the October Revolution of 1917 which overthrew the Russian monarchy and brought the Communists to power.

However, though many Indian citizens truly admired the idealist USSR the Indian establishment OTOH was a selfish entity regarding the USSR, whether Indian military joining NATO in NATO's invasionary war against DPRK ( North Korea ) in the Korea War of 1950-52 where North Korea was supported by the same USSR and China, or whether in the 1980s the Indian prime minister Rajiv Gandhi being ready to bring back the NATO-propped-up Pakistani mullah dictator Zia ul Haq to power in case he was overthrown by Pakistani Communists and Socialists. Rajiv Gandhi wasn't really an admirer of the Tableeghi Zia but he didn't want USSR's political and military presence to spread from Pakistan's neighbor Afghanistan to flow into Pakistan and encourage Pakistan leftists to overthrow Zia ul Haq and those two countries become a base for South Asian Communists which will encourage Indian Communists and Socialists to seek to attain governance without the drama of five-yearly elections. So by Rajiv Gandhi bring Zia ul Haq back to power he wanted to see Pakistan as a buffer between India and Communist Afghanistan. Below is from my thread from 2015 :
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Washington: Contradicting perceived proximity to the Soviet Union in the Cold War era, India under the then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi had toyed with the idea of supporting anti-Russian civilian groups in Pakistan if the then Zia regime was thrown out by Moscow, a recent declassified CIA document has claimed.

According to CIA documents of the era, which were recently declassified and posted on the CIA website under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), which is similar to India's Right to Information Act, Gandhi wanted non-interference from both the United States and the then USSR. "Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi would like both the USSR and the United States to end their involvement in South Asia," noted the 31-page CIA document titled 'The Soviet Presence in Afghanistan: Implications for the Regional Powers and the US'.

While taking note of the historic India-USSR relationship in particular in the defence field, the CIA report of April 1985 noted that India is likely to become increasingly concerned about long-range Soviet intentions in the region and could find itself moving towards confrontation with the Soviets if Pakistan was effectively neutralised.

"New Delhi regards Pakistan as a strategic buffer against the USSR and would oppose Moscow's effort to dominate Pakistan. New Delhi and Moscow would find themselves supporting rival factions within Pakistan," said the report, according to which Moscow had plans to change the regime in Pakistan and extend its influence beyond Afghanistan. In that case, the report said, "The Indians would seek to significantly reduce their dependence on Moscow and reorder their strategic relationship with the USSR, the United States and China if they perceived Soviet ambitions as extending beyond Afghanistan toward the subcontinent."

According to the report, the Soviets tried to heighten India's suspicion about Pakistan's intentions and its security relationship with the US in order to foster Indo-Pakistani tensions and heighten New Delhi’s dependence on Moscow. "In Soviet view, conflict between India and Pakistan would work toward solving Moscow's Afghan problem and would give Moscow opportunities to strengthen its position in South Asia," the report said.

"If (Gen) Zia (Ul Haq) regime were to fall, the Indians might try to prevent Soviet attempt to dominate Pakistan by supporting rival Pakistani political factions, Soviet military moves against an already neutralised Pakistan could even result in military confrontation with India," it added.

Six months later when Gandhi was planning to meet General Zia on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly meeting in New York, the CIA analyzed that the then Indian Prime Minister, despite his strong public views on Pakistan's nuclear weapons program, was unlikely to push him hard on it. "Gandhi is unlikely to push Zia hard about the Pakistani nuclear program, although he probably will at least mention his continuing concern," noted the top secret CIA document dated October 21, 1985.

"For his part, Zia is also likely to propose ideas on ways to improve the bilateral relationship. He may suggest regular high-level diplomatic talks in addition to the formal Joint Commission sessions that focuses on trade, communications and cultural exchanges," the report said. "Zia may also solicit Gandhi's views on whether as the Pakistanis believe the Soviets are becoming serious about a negotiated settlement in Afghanistan," it sai

I take no responsibility for miscellaneous turds in India.

Certainly, but we must acknowledge who is being wrong.

My statement was largely generic.

OK.

Do you have to write such walls of text? This is social media. Not your JNU jhola useless masters thesis on my money. Please be brief and incisive. You will get more relevant responses that way.

Please see my reply on this is my thread you are replying.

P.S. I haven't understood Arnab's sudden hostility towards Russia nor News 18 India. Probably linked to western money strings. Or sanctions.

Arnab is a Capitalist crook, drooling for money and career safety and personal safety. Before the JNU events of 2016 he was hated by Hindutvadis ( posts on PDF being proof ) but when the leftist JNU students in 2016 began their agitation Arnab morphed into an ardent nationalist and Hindutvadi and this was loved by the Hindutvadis. This drives his hostility towards Rssia.

But I didn't understand your reference to News 18 India.

@jamahir is correct.

Indian Deputy PM promised to send Indian troops but the promise was withdrawn by Indian PM at that time.

Indeed. Thank you.

Modi and sanghis are US lackeys.

Absolutely ! Since before the Partition.
 
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But Ukraine's military barely exists today, and it cant exist without NATO - good try hypocrite. US army got battered in every recent war, so i feel you're just projecting US's situation onto Russia,.

and Ukraine has taken a hit to its sovereignty- it will never be the same again, or get back some territories from Russia.

thats what Ukraine did to Russia by selling out its slavic brothers to NATO- but luckily for Ukraine, NATO loses every war, so Ukraine's nationhood will get remixed next year irreversibly.

The last time I checked it is not American GI's who are dying. There are 10,000 Russian soldiers dead (this is Russia's own official death toll)

Ukraine was under USSR until 1990. Right now they are alive and free :enjoy:

I doubt Ukraine was interested in NATO prior to the Russian attack. When Ukraine's citizens enjoy the privileges of EU their Russian cousins will turn on their elite. Enjoy the show

@jamahir is correct.

Indian Deputy PM promised to send Indian troops but the promise was withdrawn by Indian PM at that time.



Modi and sanghis are US lackeys.

there is no evidence India was willing to send 17,000 troops to fight in Iraq

It was under consideration


It was never going to be sent considering the frivilousness of the whole enterprise (Iraq war)
 
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You are a Bangladeshi right? What were you doing flailing your checkered lungi between India and Russia? Wanting us to notice your presence?
Having civilized discussion with you heathens is near impossible!

Well, if you failed to notice mr rapestani this isn't your indian circle jerking forum. This is Pakistan defence forum and you hindus are here so that others can notice your existence.

This undia and russia news is posted here in Pakistan defence forum and it is open for discussion. I replied with civility until you cow cola drinking maggot started to insult me and my country without any reason!

Inferiority complex at its best...

which countries that have majority people of color were invaded and occupied by the Slavs? i think this comment is reckless and false - Anglosaxon British ARE THE WORST colonialists, period.
Sir, Im not saying western peoples are Angels. But, non-White peoples are more safer in western countries compared to any eastern-European and Slavic countries.
 
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The last time I checked it is not American GI's who are dying.
so many already died and got wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan already, US is the worst country at war b ut most invested, hence why US is broke now- no $$ for new wars, especially since they will lose it.
There are 10,000 Russian soldiers dead (this is Russia's own official death toll)
and NATO still cant attack? just proves NATO doesnt even have dentures- completely toothless tiger.
Ukraine was under USSR until 1990. Right now they are alive and free

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The world knows what Americans means why they say you have "freedom" - you are hurting cuz US influence now is way lower than when you last rememvber.
I doubt Ukraine was interested in NATO prior to the Russian attack.
offcourse tyhey were- what about all the military intelligence, fortifications and equipment NATO supplied to Ukraine before the war started? ur so naive and biased.
When Ukraine's citizens enjoy the privileges of EU their Russian cousins will turn on their elite. Enjoy the show
when that day comes i will give you $50, but that day will never happen when it happens, i will leave PDF, screenshot this, but if it also doesnt happen, you leave PDF permanently- deal?
 
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But Ukraine's military barely exists today, and it cant exist without NATO - good try hypocrite. US army got battered in every recent war, so i feel you're just projecting US's situation onto Russia,.

and Ukraine has taken a hit to its sovereignty- it will never be the same again, or get back some territories from Russia.

thats what Ukraine did to Russia by selling out its slavic brothers to NATO- but luckily for Ukraine, NATO loses every war, so Ukraine's nationhood will get remixed next year irreversibly.

American war fatalities in Iraq and Afghanistan are among the LOWEST in its history.

Russian war fatalities in Ukraine are horrendous in comparison - highest since World War II.

Ukraine has managed to liberate about 50% of its lands that were occupied by Russian forces at the start of invasion - this is progress.

You should not make such bold claims about what future holds for Ukraine. You were proven wrong before.

NATO looses every war? NATO liberated Kuwait from Iraq in 1991, liberated Kosovo from Yugoslavia in 1999, and dismantled Saddam regime in Iraq in the (2003 - 2011) period. NATO also dismantled ISIL across Syria and Iraq in the (2014 - 2021) period. Your definition of "loss" is absurd.

You continue to repeat debunked viewpoints in every discourse in spite of repeated attempts to reason with you. This lowers the standard of debate in the forum. You continue to show that you are incapable of accepting even BASIC Facts & Figures - this is not productive. Your political inclination is not the problem (being Pro-Russia is not a crime), but try to be factual and open-minded. This is to your benefit.
 
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India in 2003 was rule by the Hindutvadi party BJP which is also the fascist party ruling now. In 2003 that single Indian soldier wasn't deployed to Iraq in support of the USA-and-British-governments-led illegal, imperialist and genocidal invasion not because the Indian government suddenly developed humanity and "didn't bow down to US soft pressure / enticement" but because of wide protests in India against the BJP government's : (a). Lust to kill Muslims, even foreign ones ( though in Iraq there are Christians and others too ), (b). Unquenchable desire to be in perpetual service of Western governments, something that started with Marathas, Nairs and so on during British East India Company times in a combined fight against the radically progressive Muslim leader Tipu Sultan, (c). To help destroy Socialism - Iraq being governed by the Socialist Baath movement.

I am not at all casting the Indian army as a uniformly mercenary force in the service of Hindutvad, Capitalism, NATO and mindless nationalist tribalism and you will see me in a later paragraph cheering for retired Indian military officers who wrote letters to the country's president asking for immediate action against the Hindutvization of the Indian military.

But I start with this : In 2003, 17,000 Indian army soldiers were ready in the barracks to go to Iraq at a moment's notice and help the USA-and-British-governments-led alliance murder Saddam, his supporters and the Iraqi people. Seven years prior, the then American government Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, was asked in a TV interview :

Her reply : "Worth it". So the Indian army commanders who would be working in Iraq under the command of the government militaries of USA, Britain, Australia, Poland and it is said Ukraine, these Indian army commanders and their subordinates would be murdering Iraqis for what exactly ? How had Iraq and Iraqis wronged India that the Indian army became ready to participate alongside the North Atlantic Terrorist Organization in war against Iraq ? Secondly, the Indian army commanders and their subordinates did not care for the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children that happened only because of the Western government invasion of Iraq in 1990 and the illegal sanctions after. It is easily understood that BJP government in 2003 would be very happy murdering Iraqis because of its dominant Muslim population and also Christians to go on the side, just like it wants to enable Hindutvadi genocide of two million Muslims at the earliest as declared in the Dharam Sansad in Haridwar last December, but why was Indian army participating in the 2003 Bush and B'liar genocidal war against the Iraqis, against humanity ? This is the result of USA military massively and ruthlessly bombarding Iraq with depleted uranium bullets and shells :
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Whichever Indian army commanders easily agreed to BJP government's command to deploy to Iraq, would they want their children to suffer like the child above ? But what should one say of the Indian army which supported the Hindutvadi terrorist, Colonel Shrikant Purohit, who was involved in the Malegaon bombing of 2008 which killed 37 Muslims and injured 100+ ? The indian army stood by him during the trial in his own words :

This terrorist was released by Modi government in 2017 just like it released on this year's India's Independence Day the 11 Hindutvadis who gangraped a pregnant Bilkis Bano in 2002 in Gujarat and smashed the head of her 3-year-old daughter on a rock and killed 13 more members of her family when the family was escaping from the Gujarat anti-Muslim pogrom. And this is from online magazine The Caravan :

How was Col Purohit able to get RDX explosives from Indian army stocks and continue training the Hindutvadi terrorists in that conspiracy despite being a military officer and on top of that he being in military intelligence ? From the same source :

And then in August 2017 he was released from Taloja jail later infamous for housing intellectuals / progressives and he reported back to the same army intelligence unit where he worked before his arrest. The army took him back willingly. He was provided security upon his release :

So the person who killed 37 people and injured 100+, most being Muslims, is not only supported by the Indian army during his trial but also taken back into his old army intelligence unit after his release that was enabled by BJP and Modi, and then provided security to him when he is the murderer and terrorist ! :rofl:

And why is the army not doing anything about the open calls by Hindutvadis especially since December 2021 in successive Dharam Sansads to genocide two million Muslims at the earliest followed by genocides of Christians and Communists ? The Indian army has vast resources, part of the Indian military which is among the two largest importer of armaments in the world. If these resources can be deployed to keep forces in Kashmir then they can also be deployed to bring secularism and progressiveness in India. The army cannot hide under the umbrella of "We are not a political organization" while around them the country burns down with genocides.

And then decades before this, the Indian army participating alongside NATO in the NATO invasion of DPRK ( North Korea ) in the Korea War of 1950-53. Bhakts / Indian nationalists will excuse away this participation saying the Indian army soldiers were a medical unit. However, military medical units are trained in arms so this Indian army medical unit would have been helping NATO kill the North Koreans and the Chinese and Soviets who were supporting North Korea. Secondly, this Indian army medical unit would have been treating the wounds of the North Atlantic Terrorist Organization which had invaded North Korea / DPRK. This is as much Indian army declaring war on DPRK / North Korea. For what ? Was it because DPRK sought to implement Communism and was a welfare-based and reorganized society while India has been an extremely Capitalist and irrational society since 3000 years ago when Hindus came into India from Iran and created a codified system of castes, extremest misogyny, extremest Capitalism and feudalism ? I am not saying I hate Hindus as human existences, I have Hindu friends whether on PDF or offline and this makes me opposite to Muslim members like @hussain0216 who constantly talk about "He Hindu, kill him".

The Indian army of course has and has had humane people who questioned various policies of the top brass and who had to unwillingly participate in many wrong things in service. Whether this be those 150 retired military officers including service chiefs who wrote a joint letter to the country's president in 2019 and complained about the assimilation of India's military into Hindutvadi forces through such things as Yogi Adityanath calling the military as "Modi ji ki sena" ( Mr. Modi's military ), or retired army colonel Ashok Kumar Singh who supported actress Richa Chaddha who had tweeted "Galwan says Hi" as reply for a bombastic, jingoist statement by a very senior army commander about readiness to invade Pakistan at the command of the government. Col. Ashok said :


So I condemn the wrong history and current of the Indian military but also acknowledge that it had and maybe has good people who reject the notion that the Indian military cannot be criticized, that it is one more untouchable and holy addition to the pantheon of 330 million Hindu gods and goddesses.



Musharraf raided Lal Masjid with commitment. Waiting for an Indian army general to raid offices of Bajrang Dal, Sri Ram Sena, Hindu Janajagruti Samiti, Vishwa Hindu Parishad etc. :)



What to do, I am a serious person, whether in posting female admiration imagery or preaching World Communism.



You have rightly used the words "with some Ukrainians" because Russian army never had brotherly bonds with UkroNazis and Ukrainian nationalists, both categories one and the same really. Some months ago, before my self-exile, I had posted an article about the unspeakable atrocities inflicted by Ukrainian nationalists on Polish people during World War 2 and the article spoke about the Ukrainian nationalists continuing their evil to the 2014 events and to the beginning of the Russian operation. These are evil people, who did the same to Poles, to Russian soldiers and to non-Nazi Ukrainian dissenters what the Hindutvadis in Gujarat state in India did to the Muslims there in 2002 and for which the then chief minister of Gujarat, Narendra Modi, was banned from entered USA until 2014 when he became the prime minister. My posting of the article about Ukrainian nationalists was removed and I warned.

So no brotherly bonds of the Russian army with Ukrainian nationalists. Would have been disappointing if there were bonds.





I existed in India in 2003 and know this directly. However, you could have simply googled and found this among other articles :

So almost all in the BJP government were very willing to send the Indian army to Iraq, and Indian army commanders also were willing as were the Hindutvadi former military officers like Satish Nambiar and political analysts who sat in "think tanks" but the people and opposition parties rejected the deployment because of which those 17,000 Indian army soldiers did not go to Iraq to fight against Iraqis.



Not really. Many in that 1.4 billion Indian population support the UkroNazis and nationalists. These will be right-wingers among Hindus who are ever in service of NATO, and right-wingers among Muslims who see Russia as the successor to the ebeel Communist USSR, and both reasons are true of right-wing Indian Christians.

In March this year, a few days after the Ukraine operation began, one of the "Godi Media" Hindutvadi propaganda and society destruction TV channels, Republic TV, had its notorious celebrity anchor Arnab Goswami declaring in a panel talk show the same words that Zelensky spoke and the White House spoke. But on the panel was a senior expert from Lisbon, Portugal whose name i don't remember now but what i know is that he was an academic and businessman during USSR times who did business with USSR. Go through this page to watch a short clip on how he first schooled Arnab on Arnab's perpetual bullying of his talk show guests and then the Lisbon expert told Arnab that he was talking the tongue of Zelensky and White House and that Russia is in war with NATO and should Russia win it is India as well as China that will benefit so Arnab by opposing Russia was going against the benefit of his own country, India. The article also shows the reactions of sensible Indians to this episode.



Not "under consideration" but a decided thing with those 17,000 soldiers waiting in the barracks ready to go but it was the people and the opposition parties who forced the government to cancel the deployment.
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The USSR's relationship may have been offered to India with post-1947 sincerity not only because the USSR was a society seeking to induce its progressive revolution to other societies, but also because the Indian Communist movement was formally formed in 1920, five years after the October Revolution of 1917 which overthrew the Russian monarchy and brought the Communists to power.

However, though many Indian citizens truly admired the idealist USSR the Indian establishment OTOH was a selfish entity regarding the USSR, whether Indian military joining NATO in NATO's invasionary war against DPRK ( North Korea ) in the Korea War of 1950-52 where North Korea was supported by the same USSR and China, or whether in the 1980s the Indian prime minister Rajiv Gandhi being ready to bring back the NATO-propped-up Pakistani mullah dictator Zia ul Haq to power in case he was overthrown by Pakistani Communists and Socialists. Rajiv Gandhi wasn't really an admirer of the Tableeghi Zia but he didn't want USSR's political and military presence to spread from Pakistan's neighbor Afghanistan to flow into Pakistan and encourage Pakistan leftists to overthrow Zia ul Haq and those two countries become a base for South Asian Communists which will encourage Indian Communists and Socialists to seek to attain governance without the drama of five-yearly elections. So by Rajiv Gandhi bring Zia ul Haq back to power he wanted to see Pakistan as a buffer between India and Communist Afghanistan. Below is from my thread from 2015 :




Certainly, but we must acknowledge who is being wrong.



OK.



Please see my reply on this is my thread you are replying.



Arnab is a Capitalist crook, drooling for money and career safety and personal safety. Before the JNU events of 2016 he was hated by Hindutvadis ( posts on PDF being proof ) but when the leftist JNU students in 2016 began their agitation Arnab morphed into an ardent nationalist and Hindutvadi and this was loved by the Hindutvadis. This drives his hostility towards Rssia.

But I didn't understand your reference to News 18 India.



Indeed. Thank you.



Absolutely ! Since before the Partition.

News18 is my Hindi news channel of choice. Amish Devgan is a favourite of mine, and his panel is lively as is the discussion. Pratik Trivedi ji of course is a old favourite. Though I rarely get to watch his Bhayya Ji Kahin as much as I would like to. Post Aman (don't like him) are the news shorts, sansani shrill khabar. Bouncing hindutva hotties in tight pant suits. That is where the narrative is generally quite strongly pro Ukraine.
 
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so many already died and got wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan already, US is the worst country at war b ut most invested, hence why US is broke now- no $$ for new wars, especially since they will lose it.

and NATO still cant attack? just proves NATO doesnt even have dentures- completely toothless tiger.

The world knows what Americans means why they say you have "freedom" - you are hurting cuz US influence now is way lower than when you last rememvber.

offcourse tyhey were- what about all the military intelligence, fortifications and equipment NATO supplied to Ukraine before the war started? ur so naive and biased.

when that day comes i will give you $50, but that day will never happen when it happens, i will leave PDF, screenshot this, but if it also doesnt happen, you leave PDF permanently- deal?

Americans are not dying in Ukraine. Russians are. This war by Putin is what I call unforced error (using a tennis term)
 
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Ukraine was under USSR until 1990. Right now they are alive and free :enjoy:

The world knows what Americans means why they say you have "freedom" - you are hurting cuz US influence now is way lower than when you last rememvber.

925boy, right now Americans are having to sell blood to bring bread, because unlike Communist North Korea where basic food is free despite the decades-old illegal Western government sanctions and despite the difficult NK terrain for agriculture the supermarkets in USA are full of wonderous produce, different kinds of food, but those foods can be obtained only with exchange of money and USA is a country where things run on money - not in the extreme way as in India but still - where a tetanus injection costs money and if you don't have the money you should die of gangrene complaining but the system will chug on callously. Housing, electricity, healthcare, education, telecommunication etc all cost money and the American takes interest-based loans to obtain all these and spends years in repaying them, living in a senseless dog-eat-dog society.

There was a thread on PDF about a Pakistan-origin doctor in USA who owned a cancer clinic and he waived off the fees of many patients because they had gone bankrupt in paying for the treatment. So, does the American system want people to die of cancer if they have no money to pay to the hospital ? There are American farmers who suicide because of socio-economic reasons, as do those people who have been encouraged by the system to gamble in the stock market. In Los Angeles area where sits the glittering and money-rich Hollywood there are 70,000 homeless people, living in plastic tents and in the open along bridges and the roads where daily pass the Hollywood people in their luxury cars and many of these Hollywood money-rich stars like Richard Gere are arranged by the government to hold "fund raising and awareness" nights in glittering halls to support filths like the feudal Dalai Lama who sits in India now talking peace and distributing wisdom to the world but never once regretting himself and his family being feudals in Tibet who had thousands of slaves and tortured people in their private torture chamber and the lesser rich in Tibet competed with each other make Dalai Lama happy by skinning people and making musical instruments out of their bones and skin and shacking the legs of serfs for life and leaving poor helpless people to die in the open high desert without food and water and removing people's eyes and cutting limbs for some "mistake". Here is Richard Gere :
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Right in Washington DC the capital of USA the American president lives in a well-protected and comfortable mansion but not far from his mansion are the city's homeless people who must live under the sun, rain, snow, dust, pollution and in the crowds. Many of these homeless people lose their minds after living in those deprivations. But POTUS doesn't care, he lives in his comfortable mansion and orders war on another progressive country where the system is welfare-based and provides all basic necessities without exchange of money.

So when Nahtanbob says about Ukraine now being "alive and free" what does he mean ? Are Ukrainian getting to live without the dictatorship of money ? Has Zelensky not banned 11 opposition parties months ago and house-arrested some of their leaders ? Has Zelensky's Nazi police and military not been abducting males off the streets and forcing them into a senseless war against Russia ? And when those forcibly drafted Ukrainians complain are they not disappearing ? Months ago when the war was more furious weren't UkroNazi military units not siting rocket launchers, military command centers and hostels for foreign fighters in civilian hospitals, schools and housing complexes and thus inviting Russian retaliation ? So what is Nathanbob saying about Ukraine finally living "alive and free" ?

I doubt Ukraine was interested in NATO prior to the Russian attack. When Ukraine's citizens enjoy the privileges of EU their Russian cousins will turn on their elite. Enjoy the show

Oh, "privileges of citizens of EU" ? Like the homeless people of Britain sleeping without mattress on the footpath in the cold of the Scottish night while British government of Hindutvadi Rishi Sunak fakes proof about Russian atrocities in Bucha those months ago.

there is no evidence India was willing to send 17,000 troops to fight in Iraq

What is this ? Your post in #50 and I replied to this misunderstanding of yours in post# 42 so why are you repeating the same thing ? Secondly, what is your regular urgency to provide umbrella to Indian nationalists and fascists like Modi ?


Why not ?

@LeGenD, you posted on this thread so you tell me if my lengthy explanatory reply goes against the laws of the internet and if internet discussions should consist of anti-intellectual dog memes and lynch-mob gay mullahs having "Murtad !" of their filth lips.

Has Virus never read a book ? Has he never sat in a tea room and talked for two hours at least ? What is the point of a forum then, whether PDF or in the UNO General Assembly if a person cannot dedicate time to talking about issues and problems in the world and in their own life and removing them ? Why should a person exist then if he or she is no more intelligent than a stone wall with a dog food advertisement painted on it ?

News18 is my Hindi news channel of choice. Amish Devgan is a favourite of mine, and his panel is lively as is the discussion. Pratik Trivedi ji of course is a old favourite. Though I rarely get to watch his Bhayya Ji Kahin as much as I would like to. Post Aman (don't like him) are the news shorts, sansani shrill khabar. Bouncing hindutva hotties in tight pant suits. That is where the narrative is generally quite strongly pro Ukraine.

I used to watch Prateek Trivedi in his "Bhaiya ji Kahin" many years ago when I would watch that channel ( which ? ) for that programme. He was a very good journalist with courage to state there and then who was wrong and he gave chance to the sensible ones to speak. He was passionate. I don't know if he is that still.

Ravish, Prannoy Roy and Radhika Roy have very rightly left NDTV after Adani now taking almost complete control of the channel. So the entire gamut of Hindi and English TV news channels in India is now Godi Media. which as you said is strongly pro-Zelensky. Hope Ravish, Prannoy and Radhika start a new channel to counter and make it international to project the daily realities of India to the world to counter Adani's statement that he wants to make NDTV an international channel, essentially to give Hindutvad a peaceful face that can be presented in White House press briefings.

One Hindutva Hottie I love is Shikha Thakur who used to be in ABP but is now in Bharat 24 which I don't watch. Maybe she is not Hindutvadi at all, would be nice to discuss this point with her over tea :devil: :
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Shikha needs some more kilos on her. Will look lovelier.

Having civilized discussion with you heathens is near impossible!

What is this word "Heathens" ? Are you Torquemada torturing Muslims and Jews during the Inquisition ? Are you a Hefazat-e-"Islam" gay mullah dicking with other mullahs in the madarsa and after that rushing out to lynch a girl because she wore jeans and top ? Are you a Hindutvadi doing similar to the above ? Be a human, not a priest.
 
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925boy, right now Americans are having to sell blood to bring bread, because unlike Communist North Korea where basic food is free despite the decades-old illegal Western government sanctions and despite the difficult NK terrain for agriculture the supermarkets in USA are full of wonderous produce, different kinds of food, but those foods can be obtained only with exchange of money and USA is a country where things run on money - not in the extreme way as in India but still - where a tetanus injection costs money and if you don't have the money you should die of gangrene complaining but the system will chug on callously. Housing, electricity, healthcare, education, telecommunication etc all cost money and the American takes interest-based loans to obtain all these and spends years in repaying them, living in a senseless dog-eat-dog society.

There was a thread on PDF about a Pakistan-origin doctor in USA who owned a cancer clinic and he waived off the fees of many patients because they had gone bankrupt in paying for the treatment. So, does the American system want people to die of cancer if they have no money to pay to the hospital ? There are American farmers who suicide because of socio-economic reasons, as do those people who have been encouraged by the system to gamble in the stock market. In Los Angeles area where sits the glittering and money-rich Hollywood there are 70,000 homeless people, living in plastic tents and in the open along bridges and the roads where daily pass the Hollywood people in their luxury cars and many of these Hollywood money-rich stars like Richard Gere are arranged by the government to hold "fund raising and awareness" nights in glittering halls to support filths like the feudal Dalai Lama who sits in India now talking peace and distributing wisdom to the world but never once regretting himself and his family being feudals in Tibet who had thousands of slaves and tortured people in their private torture chamber and the lesser rich in Tibet competed with each other make Dalai Lama happy by skinning people and making musical instruments out of their bones and skin and shacking the legs of serfs for life and leaving poor helpless people to die in the open high desert without food and water and removing people's eyes and cutting limbs for some "mistake". Here is Richard Gere :
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Right in Washington DC the capital of USA the American president lives in a well-protected and comfortable mansion but not far from his mansion are the city's homeless people who must live under the sun, rain, snow, dust, pollution and in the crowds. Many of these homeless people lose their minds after living in those deprivations. But POTUS doesn't care, he lives in his comfortable mansion and orders war on another progressive country where the system is welfare-based and provides all basic necessities without exchange of money.

So when Nahtanbob says about Ukraine now being "alive and free" what does he mean ? Are Ukrainian getting to live without the dictatorship of money ? Has Zelensky not banned 11 opposition parties months ago and house-arrested some of their leaders ? Has Zelensky's Nazi police and military not been abducting males off the streets and forcing them into a senseless war against Russia ? And when those forcibly drafted Ukrainians complain are they not disappearing ? Months ago when the war was more furious weren't UkroNazi military units not siting rocket launchers, military command centers and hostels for foreign fighters in civilian hospitals, schools and housing complexes and thus inviting Russian retaliation ? So what is Nathanbob saying about Ukraine finally living "alive and free" ?



Oh, "privileges of citizens of EU" ? Like the homeless people of Britain sleeping without mattress on the footpath in the cold of the Scottish night while British government of Hindutvadi Rishi Sunak fakes proof about Russian atrocities in Bucha those months ago.



What is this ? Your post in #50 and I replied to this misunderstanding of yours in post# 42 so why are you repeating the same thing ? Secondly, what is your regular urgency to provide umbrella to Indian nationalists and fascists like Modi ?



Why not ?

@LeGenD, you posted on this thread so you tell me if my lengthy explanatory reply goes against the laws of the internet and if internet discussions should consist of anti-intellectual dog memes and lynch-mob gay mullahs having "Murtad !" of their filth lips.

Has Virus never read a book ? Has he never sat in a tea room and talked for two hours at least ? What is the point of a forum then, whether PDF or in the UNO General Assembly if a person cannot dedicate time to talking about issues and problems in the world and in their own life and removing them ? Why should a person exist then if he or she is no more intelligent than a stone wall with a dog food advertisement painted on it ?



I used to watch Prateek Trivedi in his "Bhaiya ji Kahin" many years ago when I would watch that channel ( which ? ) for that programme. He was a very good journalist with courage to state there and then who was wrong and he gave chance to the sensible ones to speak. He was passionate. I don't know if he is that still.

Ravish, Prannoy Roy and Radhika Roy have very rightly left NDTV after Adani now taking almost complete control of the channel. So the entire gamut of Hindi and English TV news channels in India is now Godi Media. which as you said is strongly pro-Zelensky. Hope Ravish, Prannoy and Radhika start a new channel to counter and make it international to project the daily realities of India to the world to counter Adani's statement that he wants to make NDTV an international channel, essentially to give Hindutvad a peaceful face that can be presented in White House press briefings.

One Hindutva Hottie I love is Shikha Thakur who used to be in ABP but is now in Bharat 24 which I don't watch. Maybe she is not Hindutvadi at all, would be nice to discuss this point with her :devil: over tea :
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Shikha needs some more kilos on her. Will look lovelier.



What is this word "Heathens" ? Are you Torquemada torturing Muslims and Jews during the Inquisition ? Are you a Hefazat-e-"Islam" gay mullah dicking with other mullahs in the madarsa and after that rushing out to lynch a girl because she wore jeans and top ? Are you a Hindutvadi doing similar to the above ? Be a human, not a priest.

Maybe you and @-=virus=- can start a competing muslim and hindutva hottie thread. I'm essentially agnostic. Maybe some lunginis could be added for coastal riverine spice too.

Bhayya Ji Kahin remains exactly the same. With his trademark explosive Aaaaaaaaannnnn lol
 
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Maybe you and @-=virus=- can start a competing muslim and hindutva hottie thread.

Oh, there shouldn't be competition really. As a Communist I believe in accommodation as long as that something is harmony-seeking. :)

I'm essentially agnostic.

Excellent because you will like this recent thread which brought me back from my self-exile :

Maybe some lunginis could be added for coastal riverine spice too.

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Americans are not dying in Ukraine.
because poor and low self esteem Ukranians are dying for Them!
Russians are.
they are fighting for their future- you know whoever wins this war expands power in the globe right? US cant win this war, HOW??? ther is no recent victory for US to reference now, so go ahead and manufacture one in your head.
This war by Putin is what I call unforced error (using a tennis term)
Its a war between Russia and Ukraine, but with Ukraine serving as a willing proxy and partners to NATO in its war against Russia- NATO is fuking with the wrong RUssia0- people like you think RUssia today is USSR broke and drunk of before- you are so wrong, and thats why US losses all modern wars- underestimates adversaries.
 
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