Saleem Safi's Jang Column: Bilawal Ka Sindh

[PaklovesTurkiye]

https://e.jang.com.pk/detail/21641"

I find it quite interesting.....Pls click on above link to read as I am unable to post it here

Key Notes of his piece are :-

1. Karachi and Sindh have been severely damaged under PPP's 13 YEARS CONSECUTIVE rule.

2. After getting dheel by establishment against leaving PDM - PPP has been acting nasty since and playing dirty. Don't know whether she is doing it knowingly or unknowingly. Reality is she is creating trouble and inciting anger among Urdu Speaking (Karachi) citizens. Just take a look at Local Bodies matter in Sindh.

3. PPP becomes champion of 18th amendment but never acted on it in true sense.

4. PPP has just took/snatched ALL rights of local bodies system/matter - making third tier of government ineffective and hostage.

5. If situation remains same then this time, Fire in Karachi/Hyderabad will burn all of Pakistan. PPP won't find a space even in Larkana.....

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This piece is coming from a journalist about whom we may never expect that he'll write like this - A democrat journalist, usually siding with Political parties against establishment......If even he is losing marbles, then situation is definitely extremely alarming.

Karachi's case is such a unique case that even those whom you never expect to go against PPP - even they are writing now...

Status Quo in Sindh - FOR 13 YEARS - has made many uncomfortable even in opposing camps. Things do not look good for Pakistan when it comes to Sindh/Karachi as of now.

Karachi/Sindh NEEDS CHANGE.

@Meengla @fitpOsitive @Silverblaze @Areesh @jupiter2007

 

[ziaulislam]

https://e.jang.com.pk/detail/21641"

I find it quite interesting.....Pls click on above link to read as I am unable to post it here

Key Notes of his piece are :-

1. Karachi and Sindh have been severely damaged under PPP's 13 YEARS CONSECUTIVE rule.

2. After getting dheel by establishment against leaving PDM - PPP has been acting nasty since and playing dirty. Don't know whether she is doing it knowingly or unknowingly. Reality is she is creating trouble and inciting anger among Urdu Speaking (Karachi) citizens. Just take a look at Local Bodies matter in Sindh.

3. PPP becomes champion of 18th amendment but never acted on it in true sense.

4. PPP has just took/snatched ALL rights of local bodies system/matter - making third tier of government ineffective and hostage.

5. If situation remains same then this time, Fire in Karachi/Hyderabad will burn all of Pakistan. PPP won't find a space even in Larkana.....

--------------

This piece is coming from a journalist about whom we may never expect that he'll write like this - A democrat journalist, usually siding with Political parties against establishment......If even he is losing marbles, then situation is definitely extremely alarming.

Karachi's case is such a unique case that even those whom you never expect to go against PPP - even they are writing now...

Status Quo in Sindh - FOR 13 YEARS - has made many uncomfortable even in opposing camps. Things do not look good for Pakistan when it comes to Sindh/Karachi as of now.

Karachi/Sindh NEEDS CHANGE.

@Meengla @fitpOsitive @Silverblaze @Areesh @jupiter2007

If karachi votes together to let say PTI or may be PMLN it can form govt in karachi

I doubt PMLN really cares since it only needs punjab to form govt..so i will be surprised for it to do anything for karachi at expense of punjab
We saw nothing happened in.2008

The anger is to all political parties

 

[Jungibaaz]

It's a tricky issue, the provinces are too entrenched as ethnic and political entities for them to be easily dissolved into smaller provincial parts. I know people talk about cutting Punjab, Sindh, KP, Balochistan into 3-4 smaller units each but this is hard to achieve as the backlash would be big, and it may also go against the spirit in which these provinces joined the fold of Pakistan and were later given provincial rights in the constitution. But on the other hand the problem remains that provincial governments are too abstracted to properly represent constituents. Even if PPP were to suddenly disappear tomorrow, there would remain a fundamental problem that arises from the fact that a rural voter in interior Sindh will have a completely different political view and different needs to an urban voter in a major cosmopolitan city like Karachi. Same issue exists in Punjab, and qualms between rural and urban.

IMO the best solution is to augment the current provincial set up and not destroy it so brazenly as to invite a debilitating backlash. Essentially, all over the country major cities like Karachi and Lahore need to be given separate devolved assemblies. For example, Karachi’s assembly would be formed of elected local members and it would be headed by an elected Mayor, under a sort of local presidential system. The devolved powers would include areas like a transport authority for all transport in Karachi, road networks, metro-style buses, trains. Policing, waste management, zoning and construction, public projects and strategic development would all be tailored to the needs of the city. There are already boards and authorities at Sindh or Karachi level that would be taken under the control of a such an assembly, so the transition does not need to be completely from scratch.

Better devolution also means splitting Karachi itself into many smaller administrative units underneath that same city level setup, each area with its own local district council. These local administrative bodies would be in charge of further devolved planning, housing, education and libraries, waste, and collection of local taxes. The latter would be the main vehicle for funding projects and all local authorities.

At a city level, Karachi could also under its tax authority set up a borrowing programme or a local development bank. Plenty of major cities globally, especially those with federal structures like Pakistan's have cities and states that borrow money to invest in citizens directly from lenders rather than via central government. For example. The city of Berlin in Germany alone, last I checked had some EUR 60bn in outstanding debt, all of which has been used to finance the local government and for local investment. If it's backed by the state, this can be used as a vehicle for funding large projects where local and government resources are lacking.

 

[ziaulislam]

It's a tricky issue, the provinces are too entrenched as ethnic and political entities for them to be easily dissolved into smaller provincial parts. I know people talk about cutting Punjab, Sindh, KP, Balochistan into 3-4 smaller units each but this is hard to achieve as the backlash would be big, and it may also go against the spirit in which these provinces joined the fold of Pakistan and were later given provincial rights in the constitution. But on the other hand the problem remains that provincial governments are too abstracted to properly represent constituents. Even if PPP were to suddenly disappear tomorrow, there would remain a fundamental problem that arises from the fact that a rural voter in interior Sindh will have a completely different political view and different needs to an urban voter in a major cosmopolitan city like Karachi. Same issue exists in Punjab, and qualms between rural and urban.

IMO the best solution is to augment the current provincial set up and not destroy it so brazenly as to invite a debilitating backlash. Essentially, all over the country major cities like Karachi and Lahore need to be given separate devolved assemblies. For example, Karachi’s assembly would be formed of elected local members and it would be headed by an elected Mayor, under a sort of local presidential system. The devolved powers would include areas like a transport authority for all transport in Karachi, road networks, metro-style buses, trains. Policing, waste management, zoning and construction, public projects and strategic development would all be tailored to the needs of the city. There are already boards and authorities at Sindh or Karachi level that would be taken under the control of a such an assembly, so the transition does not need to be completely from scratch.

Better devolution also means splitting Karachi itself into many smaller administrative units, each with its own local district council. These local administrative bodies would be in charge of further devolved planning, housing, education and libraries, waste, and collection of local taxes. The latter would be the main vehicle for funding projects and all local authorities.

At a city level, Karachi could also under its tax authority set up a borrowing programme or a local development bank. Plenty of major cities globally, especially those with federal structures like Pakistan's have cities and states that borrow money to invest in citizens directly from lenders rather than via central government. For example. The city of Berlin in Germany alone, last I checked had some EUR 60bn in outstanding debt, all of which has been used to finance the local government and for local investment. If it's backed by the state, this can be used as a vehicle for funding large projects where local and government resources are lacking.

Or just follow the law
I.e do local body elections which have their own assemblies(district nazim for each district, a total of 100 districts)


The system is there but apart from KPK first phase noone wants to implement

 

[Jungibaaz]

Or just follow the law
I.e do local body elections which have their own assemblies(district nazim for each district, a total of 100 districts)


The system is there but apart from KPK first phase noone wants to implement

That's a no brainer. But there's a bigger issue here of representation at provincial level.

 

[SaadH]

Only one solution to Karachi/Sindh quagmire, fair census and seat allotments on the true basis of population. Karachi's population of 25-30 million (out 47million total population of Sindh) should qualify it to attain at least 65% of all of Sindh's NA and PA seats. This alone will take care of PPP once and for all.

But establishment won't do this because it fears the urban Sindh's revival which will lead weakening of the former's control at the central and a situation similar to early years of Pakistan where urdu speakers and Karachi on merit dominated the bureaucracy and center of power...

Establishment fears urban Sindh and will continue to collude with satan's spawn PPP to subjugate Sindh's urban population.

 

[PakSarZameen47]

It's a tricky issue, the provinces are too entrenched as ethnic and political entities for them to be easily dissolved into smaller provincial parts. I know people talk about cutting Punjab, Sindh, KP, Balochistan into 3-4 smaller units each but this is hard to achieve as the backlash would be big, and it may also go against the spirit in which these provinces joined the fold of Pakistan and were later given provincial rights in the constitution. But on the other hand the problem remains that provincial governments are too abstracted to properly represent constituents. Even if PPP were to suddenly disappear tomorrow, there would remain a fundamental problem that arises from the fact that a rural voter in interior Sindh will have a completely different political view and different needs to an urban voter in a major cosmopolitan city like Karachi. Same issue exists in Punjab, and qualms between rural and urban.

IMO the best solution is to augment the current provincial set up and not destroy it so brazenly as to invite a debilitating backlash. Essentially, all over the country major cities like Karachi and Lahore need to be given separate devolved assemblies. For example, Karachi’s assembly would be formed of elected local members and it would be headed by an elected Mayor, under a sort of local presidential system. The devolved powers would include areas like a transport authority for all transport in Karachi, road networks, metro-style buses, trains. Policing, waste management, zoning and construction, public projects and strategic development would all be tailored to the needs of the city. There are already boards and authorities at Sindh or Karachi level that would be taken under the control of a such an assembly, so the transition does not need to be completely from scratch.

Better devolution also means splitting Karachi itself into many smaller administrative units underneath that same city level setup, each area with its own local district council. These local administrative bodies would be in charge of further devolved planning, housing, education and libraries, waste, and collection of local taxes. The latter would be the main vehicle for funding projects and all local authorities.

At a city level, Karachi could also under its tax authority set up a borrowing programme or a local development bank. Plenty of major cities globally, especially those with federal structures like Pakistan's have cities and states that borrow money to invest in citizens directly from lenders rather than via central government. For example. The city of Berlin in Germany alone, last I checked had some EUR 60bn in outstanding debt, all of which has been used to finance the local government and for local investment. If it's backed by the state, this can be used as a vehicle for funding large projects where local and government resources are lacking.

But this still will have potential for ethnonationalism. The only way to eradicate ethnonationalism is to divide provinces into 30 smaller units not based on lang/ethnicity. Otherwise we'll still have the same issues and it will become matter of survival

 

[Aijaz Kolachi]

5. If situation remains same then this time, Fire in Karachi/Hyderabad will burn all of Pakistan. PPP won't find a space even in Larkana.....

Can you elaborate it? Because it can’t get possibly worse than 1980s if it ever happened. At that time there was abundance of illegal arms and lawlessness. Muhajirs have been disarmed in 2016 operation. They will be at receiving end of stick.

But this still will have potential for ethnonationalism. The only way to eradicate ethnonationalism is to divide provinces into 30 smaller units not based on lang/ethnicity. Otherwise we'll still have the same issues and it will become matter of survival

That will only increase ethno-nationalism. Seeing it as threat to their historical nations.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Can you elaborate it? Because it can’t get possibly worse than 1980s if it ever happened. At that time there was abundance of illegal arms and lawlessness. Muhajirs have been disarmed in 2016 operation. They will be at receiving end of stick.

Saleem Safi is saying it - Not me

 

[Riz]

Waiting for a tough leader who eliminate these fugly filth PPP who spreading hate among the sindhis against punjab so that they can keep ruling over poor people of sindh

 

[Imran Khan]

this colum is about reminder of overdue lifafa
TO PPP MAFIA
A KIND REMINDER FOR LIFAFA
BY SALEEM LIFAFI

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Can you elaborate it? Because it can’t get possibly worse than 1980s if it ever happened. At that time there was abundance of illegal arms and lawlessness. Muhajirs have been disarmed in 2016 operation. They will be at receiving end of stick.



That will only increase ethno-nationalism. Seeing it as threat to their historical nations.

Something will have to give. Karachi will remain non-Sindhi forever. So its time to give "natives" of Karachi their duo rights. No British drawn line doesn't make north Sindhi native of Karachi. Natives are those who's grand parents were born in Karachi. Very small minority of them are indigenous fisherman living there for centuries.

Sindhi muslims made a deal, they knew what they were getting in to. Got rid of hindus and brought in urdu speakers. Even in 1947 Sindhi muslims were small minority in Karachi thanks to British. One can only imagine what would have happened in India.
It will be very hypocritical of modern Sindhi muslims to play ethno card now.

 

[SIPRA]

Seems that the last check, made to Lifafi, has rebounced.

 

[Super Falcon]

Sharif ka punjab
Moulana ka peshawar kyon nhe

 

[mikkix]

https://e.jang.com.pk/detail/21641"

I find it quite interesting.....Pls click on above link to read as I am unable to post it here

Key Notes of his piece are :-

1. Karachi and Sindh have been severely damaged under PPP's 13 YEARS CONSECUTIVE rule.

2. After getting dheel by establishment against leaving PDM - PPP has been acting nasty since and playing dirty. Don't know whether she is doing it knowingly or unknowingly. Reality is she is creating trouble and inciting anger among Urdu Speaking (Karachi) citizens. Just take a look at Local Bodies matter in Sindh.

3. PPP becomes champion of 18th amendment but never acted on it in true sense.

4. PPP has just took/snatched ALL rights of local bodies system/matter - making third tier of government ineffective and hostage.

5. If situation remains same then this time, Fire in Karachi/Hyderabad will burn all of Pakistan. PPP won't find a space even in Larkana.....

--------------

This piece is coming from a journalist about whom we may never expect that he'll write like this - A democrat journalist, usually siding with Political parties against establishment......If even he is losing marbles, then situation is definitely extremely alarming.

Karachi's case is such a unique case that even those whom you never expect to go against PPP - even they are writing now...

Status Quo in Sindh - FOR 13 YEARS - has made many uncomfortable even in opposing camps. Things do not look good for Pakistan when it comes to Sindh/Karachi as of now.

Karachi/Sindh NEEDS CHANGE.

@Meengla @fitpOsitive @Silverblaze @Areesh @jupiter2007

Dear why are you not accepting the fact that in Sindh what ppp is doing is in complete agreement with the military establishment. The deal is to share loot money with the military and in return do whatever you want in Sindh. Accept the reality and move on.