Saab receives order for Giraffe 1X surface radar system

[Zarvan]

Defence and security company Saab has signed a contract for delivery of the Giraffe 1X surface radar system. Due to confidentiality arrangement with the customer, Saab will release no further details of this order.

The Giraffe 1X surface radar system installed on a 4x4 vehicle (Credit : Saab)

“This Giraffe 1X contract further underlines Saab’s position as a supplier of world-leading protection against a wide range of air threats. Saab’s new generation of highly mobile surface radars is what defence forces around the world are asking for,” says Anders Linder, head of Surface Radar Solutions within Saab Business Area Surveillance.

For further details read at link given below

https://www.armyrecognition.com/sep...rder_for_giraffe_1x_surface_radar_system.html

 

[CriticalThought]

What kind of missiles cam it be paired with? And what is the range? Psk army certainly needs mobile units that can accompany troops and equipment on the move. It's the need of the hour.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

What kind of missiles cam it be paired with? And what is the range? Psk army certainly needs mobile units that can accompany troops and equipment on the move. It's the need of the hour.

The Giraffe 1X is a short-range fire control radar (75 km range). By default Saab markets its RBS-70-series with the Giraffe 1X, but the radar is positioned as an open solution for the buyer to choose their own solution if need be. I think the Umkhonto (IR and EIR), CAMM, Aster-15, IRIS-T SL, MICA-VL, HISAR-A/O, etc are all doable provided one pays for integration costs.

 

[CriticalThought]

The Giraffe 1X is a short-range fire control radar (75 km range). By default Saab markets its RBS-70-series with the Giraffe 1X, but the radar is positioned as an open solution for the buyer to choose their own solution if need be. I think the Umkhonto (IR and EIR), CAMM, Aster-15, IRIS-T SL, MICA-VL, HISAR-A/O, etc are all doable provided one pays for integration costs.

It would be a good experience for us to perform the integration in-house. We should seek more certifications as integrator of various European systems, to increase the portfolio available with Al-Khalid and Thunder. We can out-price any European country due to cheap labor.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

It would be a good experience for us to perform the integration in-house. We should seek more certifications as integrator of various European systems, to increase the portfolio available with Al-Khalid and Thunder. We can out-price any European country due to cheap labor.

IMO stuff involving Saab radars would probably be integrated in Pakistan. One of the biggest advantages with buying from Saab is that the company embraces end-user customization and generally permits local stakeholders to work. Interesting note: even though the PAF repaired the two Saab 2000 Erieye AEW&C in Pakistan, Saab listed both planes into its register of certified and operable platforms.

 

[CriticalThought]

IMO stuff involving Saab radars would probably be integrated in Pakistan. One of the biggest advantages with buying from Saab is that the company embraces end-user customization and generally permits local stakeholders to work. Interesting note: even though the PAF repaired the two Saab 2000 Erieye AEW&C in Pakistan, Saab listed both planes into its register of certified and operable platforms.

Beautiful! We should broaden the portfolio of manufacturers whose equipment we are certified to integrate: Leonardo, Thales, Snecma, BAE, Indra etc.

Btw, I tried googling Indra EW but couldn't get too many details. Interestingly, the company seems to have linkages with Raytheon behind the scenes. Here is my question: have we integrated it with KLJ-7V2? Because that determines whether it only performs wideband jamming or pinpoint target jamming as well?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Beautiful! We should broaden the portfolio of manufacturers whose equipment we are certified to integrate: Leonardo, Thales, Snecma, BAE, Indra etc.

Btw, I tried googling Indra EW but couldn't get too many details. Interestingly, the company seems to have linkages with Raytheon behind the scenes. Here is my question: have we integrated it with KLJ-7V2? Because that determines whether it only performs wideband jamming or pinpoint target jamming as well?

IIRC they procured the Indra ALR-400 RWR. The JF-17 Block-I/II's ECM element isn't integrated but done through an externally integrated pod. However, the JF-17 Block-III will have an integrated EW/ECM, which will be sourced from the same vendor as the radar (most likely in China, though the Italian side has a Leonardo-Elettronica combination). This will enable for sensor fusion.

 

[CriticalThought]

IIRC they procured the Indra ALR-400 RWR. The JF-17 Block-I/II's ECM element isn't integrated but done through an externally integrated pod. However, the JF-17 Block-III will have an integrated EW/ECM, which will be sourced from the same vendor as the radar (most likely in China, though the Italian side has a Leonardo-Elettronica combination). This will enable for sensor fusion.

Radar + IRST + RWR all need to be integrated to present one picture. Once the pilot identifies the threat, jammers need to be able to target a threat specifically, vs. a general wide band jamming.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Radar + IRST + RWR all need to be integrated to present one picture. Once the pilot identifies the threat, jammers need to be able to target a threat specifically, vs. a general wide band jamming.

Yep for the Block-III, all essentials will be single sourced from the same company (or alliance of companies).

 

[CriticalThought]

Yep for the Block-III, all essentials will be single sourced from the same company (or alliance of companies).

If AESA radars start getting produced at PAC, does that mean all these subsystems wil also be produced?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

If AESA radars start getting produced at PAC, does that mean all these subsystems wil also be produced?

Yep. No point making TRMs for one thing and then importing TRMs for others. But I don't think AESA radar manufacturing is slotted for the Block-III, probably the next-gen fighter.

 

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Interesting, it looks like Aselsans MSR radar which has range of 100km

 

[Penguin]

What kind of missiles cam it be paired with? And what is the range? Psk army certainly needs mobile units that can accompany troops and equipment on the move. It's the need of the hour.

"easily integrated in almost any type of mobile platform, fixed structure or C2 system."
Instrumented range 75 km
http://saab.com/air/sensor-systems/ground-based-air-defence/giraffe-1X/

 

[Gryphon]

IIRC they procured the Indra ALR-400 RWR. The JF-17 Block-I/II's ECM element isn't integrated but done through an externally integrated pod. However, the JF-17 Block-III will have an integrated EW/ECM, which will be sourced from the same vendor as the radar (most likely in China, though the Italian side has a Leonardo-Elettronica combination). This will enable for sensor fusion.

@Bilal Khan 777 said there were Indra EW pods on trial, as seen in this picture.

MoDP reported:

M/s Indra’s EW Suite Controller (EWSC) pre-integration was successfully accomplished in DSI Lab. Chaff & Flare
Dispenser (CFD) made by Air Weapons Complex (AWC) has also been interfaced with EWSC, and pre-integration has been verified in DSI lab.

http://modp.gov.pk/modp/userfiles1/file/Year Book 2013-14 (1).pdf

Where did you get the ALR-400 RWR news?

There is no mention of JF-17 on Indra website.

http://www.indracompany.com/sites/default/files/ALR-400 RADAR WARNING RECEIVER_0.pdf

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

@Bilal Khan 777 said there were Indra EW pods on trial, as seen in this picture.

MoDP reported:

M/s Indra’s EW Suite Controller (EWSC) pre-integration was successfully accomplished in DSI Lab. Chaff & Flare
Dispenser (CFD) made by Air Weapons Complex (AWC) has also been interfaced with EWSC, and pre-integration has been verified in DSI lab.

http://modp.gov.pk/modp/userfiles1/file/Year Book 2013-14 (1).pdf

Where did you get the ALR-400 RWR news?

There is no mention of JF-17 on Indra website.

http://www.indracompany.com/sites/default/files/ALR-400 RADAR WARNING RECEIVER_0.pdf

The ALR-400 bit came from Usman Shabbir. He confirmed it after his trip to Kamra a few months ago.