Russian progress in Donbas is faster than American progress in Iraq and Syria

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

After only 4 months, Russians took over the Kiev regime capital cities in Donetsk oblast and Luhansk oblast, which are Mariupol and Severodonetsk. In comparison, it took Americans almost a year to take over the ISIS capital cities in Iraq and Syria, which are Mosul and Raqqa. So overall, Russian progress is faster than American progress, all the while using fewer resources than Americans did.




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[drmeson]

Iran is out of JCPOA, with grip over major Middle East
China wont back down from its position on the globe
Russia will end up winning the Ukraine War

What has NATO achieved ? nothing

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

After only 4 months, Russians took over the Kiev regime capital cities in Donetsk oblast and Luhansk oblast, which are Mariupol and Severodonetsk. In comparison, it took Americans almost a year to take over the ISIS capital cities in Iraq and Syria, which are Mosul and Raqqa. So overall, Russian progress is faster than American progress, all the while using fewer resources than Americans did.




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Russians are using WWII equipment and strategies. They seems to be worse than the Indian jokers. Just yesterday, they shot their own.

 

[aziqbal]

if anyone is having trouble sleeping at night after seeing the scenes from Ukraine

just pretend its Israel bombing Gaza

or US bombing Iraq

it will be fine and normal then

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Russia has once again intimidated all of its neighbours into one side. Nato is set to more than double its border with Russia when Finland and Sweden join which has even bigger implications in locking Russia in the Baltic Sea isolating their navy even more. f35s the most advanced American fighter are being exported to Russia’s borders from Canada to Norway in a historic boom and even other jets like F16 are being traded within NATO like to Romania. Germany who is usually the other major power on the continent after 70 years of sleeping just launched a $100 billion rearmament program and aim to fill all their depleted weapon and ammunition stocks as well as be prepared for actual mobilization.

Apart from the economic front where Russia seems to have beaten western sanctions with it’s currency at a 7 year high, even if they win half of Ukraine there is no way this can be a strategic victory. Think about it. They are boxed in from all sides now in the sea and the air, they’ve justified NATO’s existence (who are now busier than ever doing NATO sh*t). A permanent shift in trade partners from west to east is the only option left for Russia

NATO will have Russia for an evening snack.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

NATO will have Russia for an evening snack.

NATO can't even beat Houthis in Yemen let alone Russia.

 

[QWECXZ]

Russia has once again intimidated all of its neighbours into one side. Nato is set to more than double its border with Russia when Finland and Sweden join which has even bigger implications in locking Russia in the Baltic Sea isolating their navy even more. f35s the most advanced American fighter are being exported to Russia’s borders from Canada to Norway in a historic boom and even other jets like F16 are being traded within NATO like to Romania. Germany who is usually the other major power on the continent after 70 years of sleeping just launched a $100 billion rearmament program and aim to fill all their depleted weapon and ammunition stocks as well as be prepared for actual mobilization.

Apart from the economic front where Russia seems to have beaten western sanctions with it’s currency at a 7 year high, even if they win half of Ukraine there is no way this can be a strategic victory. Think about it. They are boxed in from all sides now in the sea and the air, they’ve justified NATO’s existence (who are now busier than ever doing NATO sh*t). A permanent shift in trade partners from west to east is the only option left for Russia

Why not?
If they can turn Ukraine into a landlocked country, not only they have increased their maritime borders in the Black Sea significantly, but they have blocked NATO's coastal access to an important part of the Black Sea, assuming that Ukraine might join NATO some day in future.
That aside, Ukraine will become so weakened that it can never become a threat to Russia ever again. It will become Afghanistan 2.0 or Moldova, sandwiched between Russia's future proxy state, Transnistria and Belarus. Meanwhile, Russia will gain more influence and control over energy transit to Europe. How is this not a strategic victory?

 

[Akritas]

Why do not you compare it with something similar: Russian operations in Kyiv and Chernihiv?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Why do not you compare it with something similar: Russian operations in Kyiv and Chernihiv?

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Russia has no intention of taking Kiev.

 

[Akritas]

Russia has no intention of taking Kiev.

See the map.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

See the map.

That was a ruse. Kiev population is hostile to Russia. Eastern Ukraine is friendly to Russia.

 

[MeFishToo]

Why not?
If they can turn Ukraine into a landlocked country, not only they have increased their maritime borders in the Black Sea significantly, but they have blocked NATO's coastal access to an important part of the Black Sea, assuming that Ukraine might join NATO some day in future.
That aside, Ukraine will become so weakened that it can never become a threat to Russia ever again. It will become Afghanistan 2.0 or Moldova, sandwiched between Russia's future proxy state, Transnistria and Belarus. Meanwhile, Russia will gain more influence and control over energy transit to Europe. How is this not a strategic victory?

Ukraine was never a threat to Russia, and this conflict leads to Europe distancing itself from Russia.
Some have warned against Russia for decades, but they were ignored or made fun of. This has completely changed now. Europe is going to rearm and cut itself from any possible russian influence, and Russia will eventualy loose its status as a major energy export country because it needs western technology and knowhow to explore and operate its oil and gas fields.
It may take years, but thats Russias “strategic victory”.

 

[Akritas]

That was a ruse. Kiev population is hostile to Russia. Eastern Ukraine is friendly to Russia.

Do not jump from one subject to another.
We are talking about the progress of Russian military operations in Donbas.
Arbitrarily compared to that of the Alliance in Iraq.
I compare it with that in Northeastern Ukraine.
Therefore, it is obvious that 4 months later, what the Russians achieved is worse than what they had achieved 3 months ago.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Do not jump from one subject to another.
We are talking about the progress of Russian military operations in Donbas.
Arbitrarily compared to that of the Alliance in Iraq.
I compare it with that in Northeastern Ukraine.
Therefore, it is obvious that 4 months later, what the Russians achieved is worse than what they had achieved 3 months ago.

Russia's goal is Donbas, not Kiev. Donbas is called the heart of Russia.

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A Commentator Close to Putin Writes: Unitary Ukraine is Finished A prominent Russian business magazine, Ekspert, publishes a lead article this week by two

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[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

That was a ruse. Kiev population is hostile to Russia. Eastern Ukraine is friendly to Russia.

Iraqis were also opposed to NATO but NATO bombed and killed million of Iraqis. Can Russia do that in Ukraine. The answer is no.