Russian Navy Gets New Carrier-Based MIG-29K Fighters

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Russian Navy Gets New Carrier-Based MIG-29K Fighters

MOSCOW, November 25 (RIA Novosti) – The Russian navy has taken delivery of its first four series-produced MiG-29K/KUB carrier based fighter jets, the Defense Ministry said Monday.

“The MiG aircraft-manufacturing corporation has handed over two MiG-29K single-seat and two MiG-29KUB twin-seat carrier-based fighter aircraft,” a spokesman said.

The Russian Defense Ministry signed a contract with MiG in February 2012 for delivery of 20 MiG-29K and four MiG-29KUB fighters by 2015.

The aircraft will be deployed on Russia's sole serving carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, based in Murmansk with the Northern Fleet.
The Admiral Kuznetsov currently operates Sukhoi Su-33 naval fighter aircraft.

The MiG-29K is a naval variant of the MiG-29 Fulcrum fighter jet, and has folding wings, an arrester tail-hook, strengthened airframe and multirole capability thanks to its Zhuk-ME slotted array radar, MiG says.

Unlike the Su-33, which is capable of air defense missions only, the MiG-29K can be armed with a wide variety of air-to-surface as well as air-to-air weaponry and laser-designation systems.

Mikoyan MiG-29K
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The aircraft is also capable of “buddy” refueling other MiG-29Ks using the PAZ-1MK refueling pod.

So far, the aircraft has only entered service with India, for use on the refitted Russian-built carrier INS Vikramaditya, which was handed over to the Indian Navy on November 15.

Link-Russian Navy Gets New Carrier-Based Fighters | Defense | RIA Novosti

Finally, to all the haters who said Russia would never induct MiG-29K-suck it.http://www.*************.com/smilies/evil/evilgrin0010.gif

 

[BDforever]

Mig 29 K range is not good. less role in maritime strike it is more like defensive force.

 

[HariPrasad]

Mig 29 K range is not good. less role in maritime strike it is more like defensive force.

Yes but it is a lot batter in Mig 29 K. This aircraft is a nightmare for enemy who have to face it by chance in Dogfight. F16, F18, M2k, All Js can not face Mig 29.

 

[kaykay]

Mig 29 K range is not good. less role in maritime strike it is more like defensive force.

It has a combat radius of 850 KM with full fuel(4500 KG). I wouldn't call it a bad range.

 

[BDforever]

Yes but it is a lot batter in Mig 29 K. This aircraft is a nightmare for enemy who have to face it by chance in Dogfight. F16, F18, M2k, All Js can not face Mig 29.

comparing with J-15? ! ! it can not face ! ! lol


J-15 Performance

• Maximum speed: Mach 2.4
• Range: 3500 km (2050 mi)
• Service ceiling: 20000 m (65700 ft)
• Rate of climb: 325 m/s (64000 ft/min)

how about F-15 strike Eagle ? not mention USA already has long range carrier based bomber and China currently researching.

 

[bloo]

Mig 29 K range is not good. less role in maritime strike it is more like defensive force.

But then again it doesn't have a carrier based opponent in the region effectively ready at this point of time.

 

[BDforever]

It has a combat radius of 850 KM with full fuel(4500 KG). I wouldn't call it a bad range.

that is combat radius, it considered when you r in fight but before that u need to keep aircraft carrier away from land as much as possible by having long range aircraft.

But then again it doesn't have a carrier based opponent in the region effectively ready at this point of time.

it has.. J-15 from china.

 

[HariPrasad]

comparing with J-15? ! ! it can not face ! ! lol


J-15 Performance

• Maximum speed: Mach 2.4
• Range: 3500 km (2050 mi)
• Service ceiling: 20000 m (65700 ft)
• Rate of climb: 325 m/s (64000 ft/min)

how about F-15 strike Eagle ? not mention USA already has long range carrier based bomber and China currently researching.

Actually you have posted a Joke on PDF.

Pl read following Link. J 15 is no match to even 30 years old fighters. It is a dumb plane which can not carry more than 2 tons of Payload. Forget about load, It can not carry Ato A and Ato G missile to gather. Vietnam old plane will easily defeat it. Chines Scientist said that. They Say same thing about J 31.


Chinese Media Takes Aim at J-15 Fighter | Page 4

 

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that is combat radius, it considered in you r in fight but before that u need to keep aircraft carrier away from land as much as possible by having long range aircraft.


it has.. J-15 from china.

Its not even ready yet.

TAIPEI — In an unusual departure for mainland Chinese-language media, the Beijing-based Sina Military Network (SMN) criticized the capabilities of the carrier-borne J-15 Flying Shark as nothing more than a “flopping fish.”

On Sept. 22, the state-controlled China Daily Times reported the new aircraft carrier Liaoning had just finished a three-month voyage and conducted over 100 sorties of “various aircraft,” of which the J-15 “took off and landed on the carrier with maximum load and various weapons.” This report was also carried on the official Liberation Army Daily.

Contradicting any report by official military or government media is unusual in China given state control of the media.

What sounded more like a rant than analysis, SMN, on Sept. 23, reported the new J-15 was incapable of flying from the Liaoning with heavy weapons, “effectively crippling its attack range and firepower.”

The fighter can take off and land on the carrier with two YJ-83K anti-ship missiles, two PL-8 air-to-air missiles, and four 500-kilogram bombs. But a weapons “load exceeding 12 tons will not get it off the carrier’s ski jump ramp.” This might prohibit it from carrying heavier munitions such as PL-12 medium-range air-to-air missiles.

To further complicate things, the J-15 can carry only two tons of weapons while fully fueled. “This would equip it with no more than two YJ-83K and two PL-8 missiles,” thus the “range of the YJ-83K prepared for the fighter will be shorter than comparable YJ-83K missiles launched from larger PLAN [People’s Liberation Army Navy] vessels. The J-15 will be boxed into less than 120 [kilometers] of attack range.”

Losing the ability to carry the PL-12 medium-range air-to-air missiles will make the J-15 an “unlikely match” against other foreign carrier-based fighters.

“Even the Vietnam People’s Air Force can outmatch the PL-8 short-range missile. Without space for an electronic countermeasure pod, a huge number of J-15s must be mobilized for even simple missions, a waste for the PLA Navy in using the precious space aboard its sole aircraft carrier in service.”

Built by the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation, the J-15 is a copy of the Russian-made Su-33. China acquired an Su-33 prototype from the Ukraine in 2001. Avionics are most likely the same as the J-11B (Su-27). In 2006, Russia accused China of reverse engineering the Su-27 and canceled a production license to build 200 Su-27s after only 95 aircraft had been built.

Vasily Kashin, a China military specialist at the Moscow-based Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, suggests the J-15 might be a better aircraft than the Su-33. “I think that there might be some improvements because electronic equipment now weighs less than in the 1990s,” he said. It could also be lighter due to new composites that China is using on the J-11B that were not available on the original Su-33.

Despite improvements, Kashin wonders why the Chinese bothered with the Su-33 given the fact that Russia gave up on it. Weight problems and other issues forced the Russians to develop the MiG-29K, which has better power-to-weight ratio and can carry more weapons. “Of course, when the Chinese get their future carriers equipped with catapults, that limitation will not apply and they will be able to fully realize Su-33/J-15 potential — huge range and good payload,” Kashin said.

The Liaoning is the problem. The carrier is small — 53,000 tons — and uses a ski jump. From Russia’s experience, “taking off from the carrier with takeoff weight exceeding some 26 tons is very difficult,” Kashin said.

Roger Cliff, a China defense specialist for the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments in Washington, said this is “one of the reasons why sky-jump carriers can’t be considered to be equivalent to full-size carriers with catapults.”

A number of unanswered questions are raised by the SMN report, Kashin said, including the amount of fuel on board, carrier speed, wind speed and direction.

Cliff also raises issues with SMN’s conclusions. “It doesn’t make sense to me that the J-15 can take off with YJ-83s but not PL-12s, since the YJ-83 weighs about 1,800 pounds and the PL-12 weighs about 400 pounds.”

A possible answer is that it was unable to take off with both. “The article says that it can only carry ‘two tons’ of missiles and munitions when fully fueled, which is 4,400 pounds, and two YJ-83s plus two PL-8s would weigh over 4,000 pounds, leaving no margin for any PL-12s. But I don’t see why it couldn’t take off with PL-12s if it wasn’t carrying YJ-83s.” Cliff concludes that the J-15 should be capable of carrying PL-12s when it is flying purely air-to-air missions and that “it probably just can’t carry PL-12s when it is flying a strike mission.”

Kashin said the J-15, unlike the Su-33, should have a “potent” internal countermeasures suite, thus allowing for more space for weapons. The SMN report suggests it has an external electronic countermeasures (ECM) pod.

Weight issues should also not be too much of a problem for the J-15, he said, since the Su-33 did fly from the same type of carrier carrying “6-8 air-to-air missiles and Sorbtsia ECM pods carrying something like 6 to 6.5 tons of fuel.”

China’s next carriers will reportedly use electromagnetic catapults, Kashin said, but “limitations are significant when it comes to air-to-surface weapons, which limit the J-15’s use as a multirole fighter.

 

[BDforever]

Actually you have posted a Joke on PDF.

Pl read following Link. J 15 is no match to even 30 years old fighters. It is a dumb plane which can not carry more than 2 tons of Payload. Forget about load, It can not carry Ato A and Ato G missile to gather. Vietnam old plane will easily defeat it. Chines Scientist said that. They Say same thing about J 31.


Chinese Media Takes Aim at J-15 Fighter | Page 4

hmm interesting news, thanks for the posts. My favor is IN should go for Su30mki navel varient.
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[bloo]

hmm interesting news, thanks for the posts. My favor is IN should go for Su30mki navel varient.
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Actually our hope lies in the Naval MRCA i.e. if our babus can procure it in time.

 

[CorporateAffairs]

When are we getting them

 

[bloo]

When are we getting them

IN already uses more than a dozen of MIG-29Ks and even more are ordered.

 

[kaykay]

that is combat radius, it considered when you r in fight but before that u need to keep aircraft carrier away from land as much as possible by having long range aircraft.


it has.. J-15 from china.

True But It means that we can put our Aircraft Carrier atlest 600-700 KM away from enemy coasts and still strike their land if needed. And for other missions like maritime strike, CAP its more than enough. Though I believe that Just 'One' carriers won't be able to deliver much in case of 'land strike' in fight with a potent enemy. So I'll say that Once we have 2 CBGs in next 4 years then surely apart from CAP and maritime strike, we will be able to strike land with greater force from sea too.

hmm interesting news, thanks for the posts. My favor is IN should go for Su30mki navel varient.
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Actually our navy want Naval Rafale and in future may be naval FGFA and AMCA.

 

[BDforever]

Actually our navy want Naval Rafale and in future may be naval FGFA and AMCA.

Ok that is good choice