Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[Wood]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1500828050421952519

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1500809690619469826

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1500804440722493442

https://twitter.com/x/status/1500821110606213129

 

[Messerschmitt]

Spoiler: Graphic

https://twitter.com/x/status/1500828876171317250

 

[coffee_cup]

Despite numerous discussions - The Hungarians have signed a decree refusing lethal aid shipments into Ukraine to pass through the Hungarian Border.

PM Orban signs decree allowing deployment of NATO troops in western Hungary

Hungary allows NATO troops to be deployed in western Hungary and weapons shipments to cross its territory to other NATO member states, according to a decree signed by Prime Minister Viktor Orban and published in the official gazette on Monday.

www.reuters.com

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Russia will STOP invasion if Ukraine agrees to the following demands:
- Constitutional amendment ruling out membership of any blocs (NATO)
- Ukraine must recognise CRIMEA as Russian and Donetsk and Lugansk as Independent states.
Source: AP Wire
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Pakistan's opposition leaders have labelled IK's statements re EU diplomats as "Dangerous"
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Human traffickers are targeting Ukrainian women and children arriving in Berlin, pretending to offer them shelter. Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...-exploit-ukrainian-refugees-dark-side-exodus/
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Ukraine FM confirmed that shipments of arms and ammunition are flowing into the country:
Source: Visegrad24
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Former Ukranian President Yanukovych arrived in Minsk
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Second round of talks between Russia and Ukraine end with no cease fire:

MSN

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European markets eager for diplomatic solution with Russia. - Source: RationalFX

European markets eager for diplomatic solution with Russia — RationalFX

The euro is likely to remain bogged down until the tides turn toward a diplomatic solution, which should underpin USD strength in the interim.

www.rationalfx.com

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Ukraine's president seeks international trade embargo on Russia:

Ukraine's president seeks international trade embargo on Russia

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy called on Monday for new international sanctions against Russia over its invasion of Ukraine, proposing a boycott of Russian oil and other Russian exports and a halt of exports to Russia.

www.reuters.com

Sensible thing to do.

British defence ministry has also ordered to report to service police those people who are going to Ukraine.

Poland has also rejected news that it will be supplying warplanes to Ukraine or allowing it to use her air strips.

I think, this is the right way to deescalate things. Sabre rattling is not advisable.

 

[LeGenD]

@LeGenD : I am wondering if it is ok to deliberately misspell the country leader in insulting ways? Not that it bothers me, but it would be nice to have clarity, :- )

I write names properly and advice other members to do the same.

I have noticed some members taking liberty in this respect, however. This should not be the norm in my view.

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1500828855531192322

Another Russian aircraft shot down

 

[coffee_cup]

The biggest problem for EU economy will be high energy prices and hopefully it will make Germany restart those nuclear plants and coal plants. Some prices will rise, and people will deal with it.

Even if you are right, and the economy crashes. it will pale in significant to what would happen if Russian army came to the German border or any border. Or if the Russians actually occupy some European country.

I have no doubt europeans would rather eat grass than be occupied by Russia. Because if Russia takes over we will be eating dirt, which is a lot worse than grass.

So russia will be stopped here and the price to make that happen can be any price. It does not matter.

Dont over dramatize it.

There is no way Russia can ever occupy Germany/France or other European countries without WW3 (in which case there wont be any winners anyway).

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1500829731608051714

https://twitter.com/x/status/1500830095963049985

Abandoned and destroyed Russian equipment

 

[Vapnope]

I'll withhold judgement until I see clear footage of this.

Source: Trust me bro !

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1500737195166121990

 

[Dustom999]

My friend,

I am not asserting that American tanks are impenetrable - I am simply pointing out that they are much better protected than Russian tanks.

For perspective:

Source: CIA records (declassified)

NOTE: M1 Armor Protection figures are BASELINE (without ERA tiles)

Source: fprado

Source: fprado

NOTE: M1 Armor Protection figures are BASELINE (without ERA tiles)

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M1 Abrams tanks can also be equipped with ERA tiles:

U.S. Army M1 Abrams Tanks in Europe Are Getting Explosive Armor

Unfortunately, the Abrams Reactive Armor Tiles might not be the best solution for the threats at hand.

www.thedrive.com

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M1 Abrams tanks received TUSK modifications for urban warfare:

Tank Urban Survival Kit (TUSK) | Military-Today.com

The invasion of Iraq in 2003 exposed vulnerability of the Abrams tanks to rocket propelled grenades and mines. These problems were partially resolved by fitting the tanks with the Tank Urban Survival Kit (TUSK).

www.military-today.com

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M1 Abrams tanks also received Trophy APS to counter ATGMs:

TROPHY APS For M1 ABRAMS Delivered - European Security & Defence

The final TROPHY Active Protection Systems have been delivered in order to be fitted to the M1 ABRAMS MBTs of the US Army and Marines.

euro-sd.com

Army tanks are officially rocking a new active protection system in Europe

Photos released on July 10 ahead of the second phase of the Army's Defense Europe exercise show an M1 Abrams main battle tank rocking an Israeli-made Trophy Active Protection System (APS)

taskandpurpose.com

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To say that American tanks may fare a bit better than Russian tanks is gross understatement.

M1 Abrams + TUSK + ERA tiles + Trophy APS = well-equipped for ATGMs and urban warfare in general.

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There is no comparison between Ukraine and Iraq? According to what parameters? Ukraine isn't a military juggernaut.

Both Iraq and Syria presented considerable urban warfare challenges to invading forces. Iraqi insurgents used a combination of RPGs, IEDs and traps to confront American tanks in cities. ISIS introduced ATGMs and UAVs in the mix in later years. Insurgents use buildings for cover and to take up positions from where they can get good shot(s) at invading forces on the streets. Insurgents can subject a tank to a volley of RPGs from different directions.

If you think that ATGMs are deadly then you should check footage of Iraqi IEDs and how these items were used to devastating effect in different environments. IEDs claimed highest number of American lives across Iraq - imagine this.

Urban warfare can become messy and deadly anywhere in the world. Never assume otherwise.

Fallujah is a good example of how brutal urban warfare can become when insurgents have sufficient time to prepare and fortify the city. The battle in Fallujah reached the point of house-to-house fighting and the city could be cleared in two separate attempts (Operation Vigilant Resolve; Operation Phantom Fury). When the battle concluded, over 70% of the infrastructure of the city was in ruins.

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How Russia can fight a war in conventional terms is inconsequential to how USA can fight a war in conventional terms when in the same boat. American forces have access to much superior technology and funding levels; Americans are much better equipped to fight conventional battles and/or execute Major Combat Operations accordingly.

The ongoing Russian military operation in Ukraine is largest in scale and scope since Afghanistan. Russian forces have suffered heavy losses in Ukraine in a span of only 11 days - this is due to substantial shortcomings in Russian technology and logistics in large part.

Now, let me clarify something:

Few countries have sufficient military strength and capacity to invade and occupy another country in modern times. Modern warfare methods and technologies increasingly favor the defending party in fact.

Russian military performance in Ukraine is indicative of the fact that how difficult it is to invade and occupy even a moderately large country in modern times. It is indicative of how other large armies in Asia will do on the ground when trying to invade and occupy another country.

USA is an outlier in this game.

More than 20K volunteers (as of now) from all over the world are helping Ukraine in its struggle against the Russian invader.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1500823486264131585

Rightwingers from world over have been attracted by explosion of azov battalion popularity on social media in past years. Like it did for ISIS, Doesn't mean a cent in context of war between two 21st century countries. Yes they will inflict casualties, but without a states backing will probably bleed out in a back alley.

 

[coffee_cup]

I write names properly and advice other members to do the same.

I have noticed some members taking liberty in this respect, however. This should not be the norm in my view.

Very diplomatic bro, I nominate you to replace Munir Akram in the UN. :- D

 

[thetutle]

That is just a way to put words in order to show Defiance. After a few slaps everyone starts saying "yes sir"
"Won't bow down" happens in Disney Ducktails, movies and daily soaps.

Really? what do you think we had the Cold War about? And the west won, and freed Europe. Or most of it.

Now we have Ukraine, Belarus and Russia to go.

You are seriously deluded if you think europeans will allow Russia troops to conquer them. Not only will that not happen, but there is no scenario in which Russia will be able to stay in Ukraine either.

Not even Serbia will allow Russian troops there. They are crazy, but not that crazy.

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1500832001095516162