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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

Both Russia and Ukraine had thousands of S300 missiles in store. If you add SHORAD missiles that will go beyond 10000 for side. I know of no NATO country with that amount of air defence ammo to spare.

10000 Patriot missiles with launchers and radars will cost a GDP of a small country to buy. Money-wise, acquiring so many of them is out of question even for USA itself.

And the price point for other equivalent SAM systems is largely set by American prices. Russia however enjoys with its own defence contractors under a thumb, and being able to manufacture it at close to the cost, which may be tens of times lower than the foreign market price.
SAM is not really a reliable Anti-Air Platform, and NATO has been in a way progress to dismantle SAM network, the entire NATO Air Offensive Structure is designed to do this, from decoy to electronic jamming. Read Operation Bolo and what Raven did with Iraqi Air Defence.

NATO nation do not depends on SAM and instead their function in NATO country are there the plug the capability gap.

But as I said, Ukraine is not NATO, so they don't play the same game we play, and long story short, it would be impossible for Ukraine to gain Air Superiority over Russia in any practical way
 
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Lol no different than most heads of state. His iq is far from moronic


Illegal crossing are at a historic high, the amount of people overstaying is nothing in comparison. Hence why it’s being used as a bargaining chip. How can anyone argue for open boarders here but boarder integrity in Ukraine it’s laughable
Well, the problem you failed to see is that unlike combat operation in NATO or even just America alone, Ukraine is probably never going to have complete air superiority, let alone air dominance, Russia still process enough air power to at least try to make Ukrainian airspace even, while it's a surprise that Russia was not able to gain air superiority outright, it's another issue to actually overcome Russia air power and air defence and for Ukraine to gain complete domain. Think about it, it takes Allied 500+ advance aircraft to subdue Saddam's air defences in the first gulf war, and Russia is not Iraq and Ukraine is not the Allied power....

Which mean the entire Air Power/Air Superiority talk for this or any counteroffensive is really a pointless thing because even if US were to transfer 100-200 F-16, and even if Ukraine have enough pilot to fly them, this is not going to even make a dent on Russia Air Domain, you probably can fly a few combat mission with relative odds but it's not going to be without casualty if Russia wanted to fight it, if they don't want to fight the air domain then that's another story, but there are virtually no chance for Ukraine to gain any air superiority, local or across the entire domain, in reality and in practicality.

Which mean it's never going to have air superiority to begin with for their counter offensive, it's not even a starting point to begin with, you probably have mistaken the parameter on how Ukraine fight and how NATO fight, they can't fight like us in NATO, they aren't us and we can't give them everything we have.


sad truth is this is a popularity contest like American Idol, just unlike American Idol, people died every day because of it.

You can't make policy unless you play political game, the issue here is, you need to make the party look good to be interested in something, on the other hand, this is not going to go away just because one party wants to.

That's the difference between bi-partisanism and absolute power you guys are used to in Europe, where the dominate party that form government have all the power they need, the political environment is always going to be on the middle in the US and one party need to make deal with the other even if they are holding office if you want to do anything, that's why these political game are played. This has been and continue to be since 1776.
With eight parties in the parliament of Sweden, everything is about negotiations and compromise. The last time we had a single part6 getting 50+% of the votes was in 1968.
 
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border issue are there way longer than war in Ukraine, it's a successive government issue both Republican and Democrats, the same problem we have in the 1980 is the same problem we have now, and I can tell you this is not going to solve with a few billion dollars or like Trump said build a wall around it......If it was that simple, we would have already done that.

If you want to improve border security? Change the constitution. It has nothing to do with the war fund in Ukraine, unless you think 40 billion or so can fix the border issue that last probably in the last 40 years.........
The border issue is simply an excuse to cut aid.
If You want to get rid of illegal immigration?

Make employing illegal immigrants a felony with lifetime imprisonment.
Program to allow employers to hire foreigners legally. They take responsibility for the employee.
No employment without showing a national id-card.
Give citizenship to illegal immigrants reporting employers hiring illegal immigrants.
Register the social security number of each employee.
Payment through bank account only.
No bank account without social security number.

This is the same type of whining that blocks the US from developing to a great society.
Pity that the Ukrainans have to suffer.
 
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Difficult to take Rushi Sunak seriously over Ukraine anymore..


>> the UK has gone from the 2nd largest military provide of arms to now 3rd with Germany providing close to 3x what the UK has. All this under Rushi Sunaks watch ... shameful double talk by Rushi Sunak ...


 
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Difficult to take Rushi Sunak seriously over Ukraine anymore..


>> the UK has gone from the 2nd largest military provide of arms to now 3rd with Germany providing close to 3x what the UK has. All this under Rushi Sunaks watch ... shameful double talk by Rushi Sunak ...


Hats off to the germans though.
They came from “lets get high on russian gas” and “maybe send a few helmets” and “peace at all cost” to one of the leading supporters. Even though they seriously had budgetted away much of their military stocks.
 
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The Defeat Of The AFU At Bakhmut, Russian Offensive At Marinka. Military Summary For 2023.10.3​

 
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Won't worry, Winter is coming....Once the ground freezes over, the second wave of Russians with Shovels will be heading towards the Dnipro. West can't do shit!!! Heeeeeee Hooooooooo!


Going to be harsh on equipment and soldiers on both sides.

There are two factors that I probably would have emphasized more: 1. The enormity of the supplies needing to be delivered both for the troops already on the front lines and for the new recruits, and 2. How they deliver them. Mainly because the Russian forces have been chronically under-supplied, and now Russia is looking to double or triple the amount of supplies needed just by adding new bodies to the fight even before you think about winter. Then there is the fact the Ukraine has consistently targeted Russian supply and ammunition depots as well as bridges and railroads used to deliver them.
With Russia's entire supply lines exposed to
HIMARS strikes, the challenge of getting enough supplies to their front line troops looks like a herculean task and one they have not demonstrated the competency to accomplish in ideal weather let alone winter.
 
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