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Pending co-production deal could revitalize Russia’s struggling defense industry and break UAE’s dependence on US

January 13, 2022

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Russia aims to co-produce its new Su-75 Checkmate stealth fighter with the United Arab Emirates, a move that could revitalize Russia’s struggling defense industry while at the same time reducing the UAE’s dependence on the United States and West for its fighter aircraft.

The two sides are now in talks to co-produce the necessary composite materials and telecommunications technology for the jet fighter, according to reports. If they come to terms, the deal would be economically beneficial for the UAE, providing a significant boost to the country’s defense industry as it attempts to diversify its oil-dependent economy.

The UAE’s decision to enter Su-75 co-production talks with Russia comes after it decided to suspend talks with the US over a F-35 fighter purchase. The UAE cited US pressure to drop Huawei from its telecommunications network and disputes on how much F-35 technology would be transferred as reasons for suspending talks.

It wouldn’t be Russia and the UAE’s first strategic embrace. In 2017, Russia and the UAE announced the launch of a next-generation fighter program, which aims to put such aircraft into service by 2025.

The apparent shift in the UAE’s preferred source of fighters shows Russia’s increasing influence in the Middle East and could set a procurement precedent for other oil-rich countries in the region.

The Su-75 is a fifth-generation stealth fighter jet that aims to re-enter a segment of the fighter market once served by light fighters like the MiG 21. It is designed with customers such as Vietnam, India and African countries in mind.

The main sales pitch of the Su-75 is that it provides fifth-generation capabilities at a fraction of the F-35’s price. The fifth-generation fighter’s characteristics include low observability, networking capability and data fusion technologies. These technologies give them a significant edge over the current fourth-generation fighters.

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The Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II fighter jet. Photo: AFP / Yorick Jansens / Belga Mag

However, the question is whether Russia’s defense industry can meet expectations. Since 2017, the Russian defense industry has suffered contractions in capacity and size.

The Su-75 relies heavily on composite materials and Russia’s industry is nowhere near as advanced as those in the US and Europe. The Su-75’s Izdeliye-30 engine is still undergoing testing and Russia has not yet been able to manufacture a cost-effective AESA radar, with reports indicating it faces difficulties developing the radar’s transit/receive modules.

Russia’s defense industry is also struggling with challenges such as corruption, aging talent and Western sanctions. More importantly, Russia’s state-owned defense industries operate in an administrative market, which redistributes government resources among players important to the political system and its sustainability.

Decisions concerning Russia’s defense industry are thus often determined by political rationale rather than commercial needs. Russia’s defense industry is strongly tied to maintaining regime legitimacy through sustaining perceptions of military might, providing funds for regime beneficiaries and creating jobs for ordinary Russians.

As a result, it constantly overpromises to provide advanced weapons, yet continuously under-delivers. While Russia is capable of producing “superweapons” such as the Burevestnik nuclear-powered cruise missile and Poseidon nuclear-armed underwater drone, it faces difficulties in manufacturing more conventional items.

For example, most of Russia’s fighter jet exports are modernized variants of the Soviet-era fourth-generation Su-27 and MiG-29 fighters, whose base designs are approaching obsolescence in the 2020s.

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The aging MiG-29. Photo: WikiCommons

As such, Russia must move away from these dated Soviet-era designs and produce new designs if it is to recapture its share of the light fighter market in the foreseeable future.

That said, the Su-75 is a new design driven by Russia’s need to update its fighter export portfolio and attract new customers. But it may take many more years before the Su-75 is available for prospective buyers.

Aftermarket support is also a weak spot in Russia’s defense industry, a fact that will continue to hamper sales unless Russia increases funding and undertakes significant reforms in the sector.


https://asiatimes.com/2022/01/russia-uae-eye-win-win-su-75-stealth-fighter-deal/
 
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Make any fancy looking aircraft and those who have no clue on what to do with their money will buy it.
 
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I wouldn't buy a "stealthy" aircraft from the same country that sells air defenses to the country I'm intended to defend against, aka Iran.
 
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I wouldn't buy a "stealthy" aircraft from the same country that sells air defenses to the country I'm intended to defend against, aka Iran.
Then let the UAE buy a stock F-35 rather than a downgraded version
 
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Like America sells to Israel dm the Arabs.

White people always speak with two tongues. You should know of all people
Gulf states aren't in any conflict with Israel, Israel has peace with the whole region besides the Palestinians and Iran proxies.

Everyone knows the enemy is Iran.
Then let the UAE buy a stock F-35 rather than a downgraded version
Israel doesn't object that, there is no downgraded version of the F35.
 
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Abraham accords was suppose to secure F-35. I said at the time, UAE was making a big mistake. In the end Palestinians are being kicked out homes they have lived in forever and UAE got no F-35's. :hitwall:
 
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Abraham accords was suppose to secure F-35. I said at the time, UAE was making a big mistake. In the end Palestinians are being kicked out homes they have lived in forever and UAE got no F-35's. :hitwall:
The UAE didn't get the F-35 because the US is uncomfortable with the growing security cooperation between the UAE and China; I don't think it has anything to do with Israel.

Specifically, the US is very concerned about (1) telecommunications network 5G equipment obtained from Huawei, which the US regards as a potential security threat[31] and (2) the suspected Chinese military site at Khalifa Port, which reportedly remains a “live issue,”[32] These are thorny problems which cannot easily be compartmentalized.

Source: https://www.mei.edu/publications/chinas-pearl-uae-amid-great-power-rivalry
 
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Israel doesn't object that, there is no downgraded version of the F35.
Then why did the US-UAE F-35 talks fail?
 
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Then why did the US-UAE F-35 talks fail?
Too many conditions set by the US to protect their ALIS.. but now there is another system called ODIN that is more flexible.. The UAE will still get its F-35s but tailor made..
 
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Abraham accords was suppose to secure F-35. I said at the time, UAE was making a big mistake. In the end Palestinians are being kicked out homes they have lived in forever and UAE got no F-35's. :hitwall:

The problem is about American conditions and has little to do with Israel as much as that appears to be the possibility.

They want the UAE to stop making any sort of advancements or major collaboration with China. After the reports of the port deal surfaced, US grew paranoid. They were shocked that the Chinese were allowed to make such strategic infrastructure projects in that country, long considered a Western camp member.

This is more likely a bargaining chip that the Emiratis are using to get the US to clear the F-35 sales without infringing conditions. The US will come to a compromise.

Lockheed Martin's CEO would enter the White House and a**-f**k Biden on his table if they enacted CAATSA that ruined potential sales for them. :lol:. UAE's cash is too precious for the weapons corporations.
 
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The UAE didn't get the F-35 because the US is uncomfortable with the growing security cooperation between the UAE and China; I don't think it has anything to do with Israel.

Specifically, the US is very concerned about (1) telecommunications network 5G equipment obtained from Huawei, which the US regards as a potential security threat[31] and (2) the suspected Chinese military site at Khalifa Port, which reportedly remains a “live issue,”[32] These are thorny problems which cannot easily be compartmentalized.

Source: https://www.mei.edu/publications/chinas-pearl-uae-amid-great-power-rivalry
Rubbish excuse. Huawei equipment is used all over Europe. Israel has been assisting Chinese military tech development for years....what consequences have they seen in Washington :lol: :lol: :lol: .

Israel can veto any USA arms sales in the ME. That's why Iraq had to buy downgraded F-16's at prices higher then F-35's. Abraham accords were meant to calm Israel and permit F-35 sales to UAE as well as encourage the Palestinian peace process. In the end, UAE got neither.

IMO, GCC needs to focus on its own arms industry. If it can get tech transfer from Russia or China for arms purchases....then buy hardware from there.
 
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