Russia trashed 1458 terrorism infrastructure targets in Syria in only 1 week

[ultron]

taking out the trash like there's no tomorrow

 

[500]

He says they made 431 sorties and hit 1,458 targets. Thats more than 3 targets per sortie. Usual ratio is opposite: ~3 sorties per target. For example in Chechnya Russians made 14,000 sorties and hit 3,519 targets. This propaganda is designed for imbeciles.

 

[war&peace]

He says they made 431 sorties and hit 1,458 targets. Thats more than 3 targets per sortie. Usual ratio is opposite: ~3 sorties per target. For example in Chechnya Russians made 14,000 sorties and hit 3,519 targets. This propaganda is designed for imbeciles.

How come you know that since the whole video is in Russian and I could not understand anything. Do you know how to speak Russian?

 

[ultron]

He says they made 431 sorties and hit 1,458 targets. Thats more than 3 targets per sortie. Usual ratio is opposite: ~3 sorties per target. For example in Chechnya Russians made 14,000 sorties and hit 3,519 targets. This propaganda is designed for imbeciles.

A Su-24 / 30 / 34 strike plane typically carries 4 500 kg bombs. That's 4 targets in 1 sortie.

 

[500]

How come you know that since the whole video is in Russian and I could not understand anything. Do you know how to speak Russian?

I am fluent in Russian.

A Su-24 / 30 / 34 strike plane typically carries 4 500 kg bombs. That's 4 targets in 1 sortie.

Ultron jan, you watch too much comics movies.

Su-24 taking off with 4 FAB-250 bombs = 1,000 kg

Here with 2 bombs = 500 kg

Su-34 same. 1000 kg total.

 

[SOHEIL]

Russian

Ethnically Russian?

What about Tu-22 & Tu-160 bombers !?

 

[ptldM3]

Ethnically Russian?

What about Tu-22 & Tu-160 bombers !?

No he is ethnic butt hurt. He is comparing Chechnya in where Russia focused most strikes in heavily wooded areas, often in snow storms and fog, while operating aircraft that could rarely conduct air strikes at night. Now factor that Chechnya had poor intel, very little to no drones, old satellites and subpar pilots with little flight time, and its easy to see why the strike per sortie ratio is so low.



On the flip side much of Syria is desert, with mostly clear weather conditions. Moreover, there is simply more targets in Syria; aircraft are capable of conducting night strikes, drones are used for intel, newer satellites are available, Russia has a joint information intel center where it receives intel from Iraq, Syria, and Iran (this simply allows for more targets to be identified and bombed) and lastly the quality of pilots is superior. The fact that he is even trying to make an argument only shows his lack of critical thinking skills.

 

[500]

Ethnically Russian?

No.

What about Tu-22 & Tu-160 bombers !?

Tu-22 dropped all their dumb bombs in one place thats one target per sortie (if they hit somethin). Tu-160 made 8 sorties total launching 56 cruise missiles total. Hell knows what they hit anyway it does not change stats much.

No he is ethnic butt hurt. He is comparing Chechnya in where Russia focused most strikes in heavily wooded areas, often in snow storms and fog, while operating aircraft that could rarely conduct air strikes at night. Now factor that Chechnya had poor intel, very little to no drones, old satellites and subpar pilots with little flight time, and its easy to see why the strike per sortie ratio is so low.



On the flip side much of Syria is desert, with mostly clear weather conditions. Moreover, there is simply more targets in Syria; aircraft are capable of conducting night strikes, drones are used for intel, newer satellites are available, Russia has a joint information intel center where it receives intel from Iraq, Syria, and Iran (this simply allows for more targets to be identified and bombed) and lastly the quality of pilots is superior. The fact that he is even trying to make an argument only shows his lack of critical thinking skills.

According to Trevor Dupuy analysis in wars from 1945-1991 there are 0.25 targets hit per sortie.

During Israeli war in Lebanon 2006 were made over 15,500 sorties including over 12,000 combat. Were struck 6,900 targets. Israel is fling non stop over Lebanon since end of 1960-es and know every stone there. Virtually all weapons used here were smart.

Coalition anti ISIS campaign made 22,300 sorties (including many sorties with B-1B bombers), hitting 13,800 targets. 99% of weapons used were smart.

The overwhelming majority of sorties by RuAF in Syria on the other hand are done with 4 250-kg dumb bombs. Even 0.5 targets per sortie would be a very good result.

Bottom line. 3+ targets per sortie is joke beyond belief.

 

[Madali]

No.


Tu-22 dropped all their dumb bombs in one place thats one target per sortie (if they hit somethin). Tu-160 made 8 sorties total launching 56 cruise missiles total. Hell knows what they hit anyway it does not change stats much.


According to Trevor Dupuy analysis in wars from 1945-1991 there are 0.25 targets hit per sortie.

During Israeli war in Lebanon 2006 were made over 15,500 sorties including over 12,000 combat. Were struck 6,900 targets. Israel is fling non stop over Lebanon since end of 1960-es and know every stone there. Virtually all weapons used here were smart.

Coalition anti ISIS campaign made 22,300 sorties (including many sorties with B-1B bombers), hitting 13,800 targets. 99% of weapons used were smart.

The overwhelming majority of sorties by RuAF in Syria on the other hand are done with 4 250-kg dumb bombs. Even 0.5 targets per sortie would be a very good result.

Bottom line. 3+ targets per sortie is joke beyond belief.

Do you have a link to that analysis? Sounds like it would be an interesting read.

 

[ptldM3]

According to Trevor Dupuy analysis in wars from 1945-1991 there are 0.25 targets hit per sortie.

And WW2, Korea, Vietnam is relevant how?

During Israeli war in Lebanon 2006 were made over 15,500 sorties including over 12,000 combat. Were struck 6,900 targets. Israel is fling non stop over Lebanon since end of 1960-es and know every stone there. Virtually all weapons used here were smart.

Again what does this have to do with the topic? Two different conflicts, carried out by two different air forces. Russia is hitting dozens of different terror organizations and not just one or two groups, again the fact that there is simply more targets for Russia to bomb is something you have difficulty grasping.

Coalition anti ISIS campaign made 22,300 sorties (including many sorties with B-1B bombers), hitting 13,800 targets. 99% of weapons used were smart.

Those coalition sorties were a joke , they managed to somehow miss convoys of hundreds of ISIS trucks and did not touch ISIS in many areas where ISIS was fighting the Syrian army, one example is the Kowaires military air base.

The overwhelming majority of sorties by RuAF in Syria on the other hand are done with 4 250-kg dumb bombs. Even 0.5 targets per sortie would be a very good result.

Bottom line. 3+ targets per sortie is joke beyond belief.

The convoy of 525 ISIS trucks that were destroyed by Russian airstrikes surly did not take 525 sorties or bombs. This is something that obviously did not even come into your head. Furthermore, as i mentioned earlier your coalition air strikes do not bomb all of the terrorist groups in Syria, while Russia is bombing them all (FSA, ISIS, Al-Nusra, ect), heck the "coalition" would not even bomb many ISIS targets that were engaged in fighting the Syrian army. So factor in everything and take into account that one bomb can destroy multiple targets (example Russia hitting rows of ISIS fuel trucks).

Lets look at a hypothetical example, say Russia launches 30 sorties aimed at that fuel convoy of 525 truck, each aircraft is armed with at least 4 air-to-ground weapons. That is 120 bombs, each bomb is capable of destroying multiple trucks, and the trucks that are not hit would simply catch fire and burn because they are parked side by side.

In this example 30 sorties destroyed 525 targets either directly or indirectly.

 

[nForce]

He says they made 431 sorties and hit 1,458 targets. Thats more than 3 targets per sortie. Usual ratio is opposite: ~3 sorties per target. For example in Chechnya Russians made 14,000 sorties and hit 3,519 targets. This propaganda is designed for imbeciles.

That place is crawling with terrorists from ISIS..May be..

I am fluent in Russian.


Ultron jan, you watch too much comics movies.

Su-24 taking off with 4 FAB-250 bombs = 1,000 kg

Here with 2 bombs = 500 kg

Su-34 same. 1000 kg total.

I don't know how many kg they are carrying in their belly, but they are damn beautiful birds.

 

[500]

And WW2, Korea, Vietnam is relevant how?

The overwhelming majority of sorties done by Russia'n jets are with dumb bombs and dumb rockets from that era.

Again what does this have to do with the topic? Two different conflicts, carried out by two different air forces. Russia is hitting dozens of different terror organizations and not just one or two groups, again the fact that there is simply more targets for Russia to bomb is something you have difficulty grasping

All Israeli jets are armed with smart bombs.
All have new generation FLIR pods.
Israel has most modern fleet of UAVs.
Israel gathered intelligence and flied over Lebanon for decades.

Yet its is 6 times less effective than ancient Russian planes with dumb bombs.

Those coalition sorties were a joke

Joke indeed:

Just 2 times territory expansion. Nothing at all.

they managed to somehow miss convoys of hundreds of ISIS trucks and did not touch ISIS in many areas where ISIS was fighting the Syrian army, one example is the Kowaires military air base.

So called ISIS oil trucks are joke. Even according to Russian estimates, which are obviously exaggerated, they exported no more than 35 mln $ of oil a year. That oil is not enough even for Luxemburg.

These trucks Russia is bombing for PR stunt are nothing but fuel for poor people of Syria to warm themselves in winter.

The convoy of 525 ISIS trucks that were destroyed by Russian airstrikes surly did not take 525 sorties or bombs. This is something that obviously did not even come into your head. Furthermore, as i mentioned earlier your coalition air strikes do not bomb all of the terrorist groups in Syria, while Russia is bombing them all (FSA, ISIS, Al-Nusra, ect), heck the "coalition" would not even bomb many ISIS targets that were engaged in fighting the Syrian army. So factor in everything and take into account that one bomb can destroy multiple targets (example Russia hitting rows of ISIS fuel trucks).

Convoy is still one target. Of course if u want to inflate targets u can count each bug inside a convoy as target.

 

[ptldM3]

The overwhelming majority of sorties done by Russia'n jets are with dumb bombs and dumb rockets from that era.

And those dumb bombs are dropped with the aid of automated targeting computers something that was not available in WW2 so again your arguments are hallow. And i'm not even going to mention the drone and satellite technology and somehow try to compare that with Vietnam or Korea. Simply put you comparing sortie to strike ratios from WW2, Korea, Vietnam, ect is just dumb....period!

All Israeli jets are armed with smart bombs.
All have new generation FLIR pods.
Israel has most modern fleet of UAVs.
Israel gathered intelligence and flied over Lebanon for decades.

Yet its is 6 times less effective than ancient Russian planes with dumb bombs.


Joke indeed:

Again a stupid example, Russia also uses smart bombs especially as of late, Russia too has FLIR, UAVs and also gathers information, so again if anyone's argument is a joke it would be yours.


Again you seem to not understand my argument or you refuse to listen. Russia simply has more targets to bomb (over 40 different terrorists groups). Israel on the other hand has who to bomb?

Just 2 times territory expansion. Nothing at all.

Firstly this is over years of fighting, secondly any territory gained from those "airstrikes" are a result of Kurdish fighting. Thirdly Russia has bombarded ISIS positions in Northern Syria While the Syrian army, Hezballah, ect made ground advances, as a result this weakens ISIS in general and limits their reinforcements capabilities with both manpower and weapons.

But you look at everything in as black and white. With little reasoning or even common sense.

So called ISIS oil trucks are joke. Even according to Russian estimates, which are obviously exaggerated, they exported no more than 35 mln $ of oil a year. That oil is not enough even for Luxemburg.

Yes yes, all a joke, hundreds of fuel trucks spanning miles and miles is "exaggerated". Fuel refineries being bombed are also "exaggerated". Notice your propaganda, despite overwhelming video and photographic evidence as well as reports which are confirmed by many different countries in regards to Russian bombing and the progress made by that bombing you are always sitting back and running spouting the same nonsense on repeat.

These trucks Russia is bombing for PR stunt are nothing but fuel for poor people of Syria to warm themselves in winter.

You really are special. Let me get this right, Russia or Syria just happened to find hundreds upon hundreds of trucks so they gathered them all up and then bombed them, to make it more realistic they then bombed oil refineries, listen to the crap you are saying

Convoy is still one target. Of course if u want to inflate targets u can count each bug inside a convoy as target.

You are now simply either blatantly trolling or you are a kid. During the gulf war was a convoy of Iraqi tanks destroyed by air strike(s) considered one target? a convoy is simply many different targets or vehicles traveling down a road. There are many different targets that are engaged.

 

[500]

And those dumb bombs are dropped with the aid of automated targeting computers something that was not available in WW2 so again your arguments are hallow. And i'm not even going to mention the drone and satellite technology and somehow try to compare that with Vietnam or Korea. Simply put you comparing sortie to strike ratios from WW2, Korea, Vietnam, ect is just dumb....period!

WW2 bombers had excellent Norden sights which made precise calculations. Problem that u cant predict air flows even if u have most magic computers. Thats why dumb bombs from horizontal flight will never be accurate. The only way to increase accuracy of dumb bombs is step dive. Thus WW2 German Stukas were far more accurate than today Russian bombers which drop dumb bombs from 6 km altitude.

Again a stupid example, Russia also uses smart bombs especially as of late, Russia too has FLIR, UAVs and also gathers information, so again if anyone's argument is a joke it would be yours.

Su-24 and Su-25 which carry the overwhelming majority of sorties dont have neither pods nor smart bombs at all. Su-34 carres smart bombs sometimes but pods are very primitive daylight. Russian UAVs are also generation behind the western.

Again you seem to not understand my argument or you refuse to listen. Russia simply has more targets to bomb (over 40 different terrorists groups). Israel on the other hand has who to bomb?

"40 terrorist groups" are nothing but bunch of peasants.

Firstly this is over years of fighting, secondly any territory gained from those "airstrikes" are a result of Kurdish fighting.

Before coalition intervened ISIS was chasing Kurds. 200,000 Kurds fled from Kobani canton.

Yes yes, all a joke, hundreds of fuel trucks spanning miles and miles is "exaggerated". Fuel refineries being bombed are also "exaggerated". Notice your propaganda, despite overwhelming video and photographic evidence as well as reports which are confirmed by many different countries in regards to Russian bombing and the progress made by that bombing you are always sitting back and running spouting the same nonsense on repeat.

You really are special. Let me get this right, Russia or Syria just happened to find hundreds upon hundreds of trucks so they gathered them all up and then bombed them, to make it more realistic they then bombed oil refineries, listen to the crap you are saying

I repeat. I used Russia own numbers. According to Russian generals ISIS exports "up to" 2 K barrels a day. Which gives no more than 35 million dollars a year in export of oil. That's joke number.

https://twitter.com/x/status/672028219114172416

Russia for example exports 4.625 MILLION barrels a day. Thats 2300 times more.

This is 1 mile x 1 mile flamable static target with well known location. Do u think Assadists themselves could not destroy it if they wanted to? Nothing but PR stunt by Putin.

35 million dollar a year in terms of a country is NOTHING. Lets close that issue.

You are now simply either blatantly trolling or you are a kid. During the gulf war was a convoy of Iraqi tanks destroyed by air strike(s) considered one target? a convoy is simply many different targets or vehicles traveling down a road. There are many different targets that are engaged.

Of course its one target, unless tanks are scattered around. Just like aircraft carrier with 100 jets and 5000 crewmembers is 1 target.

 

[Beidou2020]

He says they made 431 sorties and hit 1,458 targets. Thats more than 3 targets per sortie. Usual ratio is opposite: ~3 sorties per target. For example in Chechnya Russians made 14,000 sorties and hit 3,519 targets. This propaganda is designed for imbeciles.

Kid, go worry about Hezbollah. They made an absolute mockery of your military in 2006. The Israeli military got embarrassed by a rag tag militia group

No he is ethnic butt hurt. He is comparing Chechnya in where Russia focused most strikes in heavily wooded areas, often in snow storms and fog, while operating aircraft that could rarely conduct air strikes at night. Now factor that Chechnya had poor intel, very little to no drones, old satellites and subpar pilots with little flight time, and its easy to see why the strike per sortie ratio is so low.



On the flip side much of Syria is desert, with mostly clear weather conditions. Moreover, there is simply more targets in Syria; aircraft are capable of conducting night strikes, drones are used for intel, newer satellites are available, Russia has a joint information intel center where it receives intel from Iraq, Syria, and Iran (this simply allows for more targets to be identified and bombed) and lastly the quality of pilots is superior. The fact that he is even trying to make an argument only shows his lack of critical thinking skills.

The Israeli kid laughing at Russian military and talking up his own military when even Hezbollah made a complete and utter mockery of the Israeli military in 2006.

These yahoos have been threatening Iran for the last 20 years but still haven got the balls to do anything.

He's mad Assad will stay and the Iran-Syria-Hezbollah alliance will keep in check Israeli aggression.