Russia Slams The QUAD; Puts India In The Firing Line As Moscow Inches Closer To China

[retaxis]

Everyone knows India is the one that released Covid all new research suggests that. Thats why many countries are sick and tired of India and its disgusting habits.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

The biggest nightmare for Pakistan would be a possible resolution of India China boarder issue.. Normal relationship between India and China will mean that utility of Pakistan for china will be negative as a big time liability..

Pakistan also has two options-
Become economically very strong to be an equivalent partner to China - very difficult given current and foreseeable future

Or just hope that relationship between India and China never improves, hence keeping their nuisance value against India... More probable option...

The statement may sound blunt but that is the reality of the current status of all the parties

Here is the problem Cowdung! Chinese relations with Pakistan are not contingent on Chinese India relations... For starters China already controls Aksai Chin, parts of Ladakh and claims South Tibet... once done(resolved) the whole(remaining) border between the two, LAC, is disputed. Of course India can resolve these minor issues on Chinese terms then comes the easy part fitting in the Chinese narrative, A neutered India that is a market for China is acceptable! however, an India that may pose some kind of a future threat is not... In other words China doesn't want to raise a snake, get it?
Now returning to China Pakistan dynamic, China wants India to accept BRI and CPEC in fact find it's own niche, however, India being India an equal and a super power in it's own right cannot accept this humiliation. As far as Pakistan and India dynamic is concerned, once India accepts the above Chinese demands a favorable outcome could be worked out for Kashmir and perhaps that would suffice, for now. Pushing any conflict further down the line as other factors in India come to a head.

 

[crankthatskunk]

I think exactly the same. Not sure what these 4 countries are doing with their presence in South China Seas or protecting. Spending billions for protecting nothing. I heard one estimate was like USD $30 billion a year, though I don't have any evidence to back it.

I can guess the answer.

1- These people are not stupid to spend US$ 30 bn a year for nothing.

2- They are spending these huge amounts to protect an "Invisible" property. There must be something worthwhile and important.

3- If you cannot see the physical signs of that "Invisible property", look at invisible things. The invisible things are like "goodwill, Influence, strategic policy" etc. etc.

4- Take Australia and New Zealand. They are extensions of "White, Colonial" slave traders, who have wiped indigenous populations around the world. By having these outposts, the "White Race" read in to Anglo-Saxon-Celtic branch of it, have made all the waters and territory between them and these two outposts their legitimate "domain".

5- In other words, from Pacific Ocean to these outposts (USA), from Atlantic Ocean to the "Red Sea" etc UK ( Lesser degree Ireland) and their Colonial Cousins EU towards the Indian Ocean and from Indian to Pacific again, everything in between them are "Their Legitimate interests". Or in other words , the whole globe is their legitimate interests domain, where only they can rule. Nobody would be allowed to rule , if someone does, it would be demonised and marginalised. What is happening to China at the moment. What had happened to others before, starting from "Ottomans" to the "USSR, i.e. Russians".

6- India is nothing but a pawn or an outpost, connecting the Indian and Pacific ocean and helping to keep control of it, albeit in a far lesser degree.

7- Japan is only there due to their centuries old feuds and wars with China. They still live in fears that in the future China will avenge their brutalities against Chinese. So they are trying to protect themselves from growing Chinese strength and power.

In other words, if China is allow to dominate that region, which it surely would, the "Hegemony" and "World Dominance" of White, Colonial Masters is over.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

So in a military conflict between Russia and Japan, India is committed to sending its navy to the Sea of Japan to fight Russia as a member of the QUAD.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

i hope your economic problems are over and beyond loans for paying loans episodes . now go for triad or quad .

What idiotic nonsense is this that India continuously equates taking loans with some sort of poverty?

Individuals, corporations and nations all need to maintain some loans in order to maintain a credit rating. All nations are continually making repayments to someone somewhere, and it's a healthy state to be in. You probably wouldn't understand any of that living debt-free in your mother's basement.

 

[crankthatskunk]

What idiotic nonsense is this that India continuously equates taking loans with some sort of poverty?

Individuals, corporations and nations all need to maintain some loans in order to maintain a credit rating. All nations are continually making repayments to someone somewhere, and it's a healthy state to be in. You probably wouldn't understand any of that living debt-free in your mother's basement.

Now you have given him undue criticism my friend.
Shacks have basements!!
Naughty, naughty you.

To equate the situation to how real world operates. I will give a personal example.

My wife, even though having less income, have £50,000 credit facility on her personal account, which she can use at any time, no questions asked. She doesn't have to apply for approval, it is pre-approved and shows on her online bank account. All she needs to do is to fill up the online request for the loan and the money is in her bank account under 2 mins.

I on the other hand despite having better income, have only £20,000 credit facility from the same bank.

It all comes down to the "Credit Management" at the end.

 

[colonel rajesh]

Bro I am not sure are you a real Chinese PDF user or not!

But one thing that I have learnt over the time (I love it!) when you guys (i.e., Chinese) grill Indians on any forum PDF, Twitter, Quora, etc., you guys don't show any mercy

Your post is a burner ........................ lmao

cheerleaders are happy cheering masters.

 

[Saudang]

Here is the problem Cowdung! Chinese relations with Pakistan are not contingent on Chinese India relations... For starters China already controls Aksai Chin, parts of Ladakh and claims South Tibet... once done(resolved) the whole(remaining) border between the two, LAC, is disputed. Of course India can resolve these minor issues on Chinese terms then comes the easy part fitting in the Chinese narrative, A neutered India that is a market for China is acceptable! however, an India that may pose some kind of a future threat is not... In other words China doesn't want to raise a snake, get it?
Now returning to China Pakistan dynamic, China wants India to accept BRI and CPEC in fact find it's own niche, however, India being India an equal and a super power in it's own right cannot accept this humiliation. As far as Pakistan and India dynamic is concerned, once India accepts the above Chinese demands a favorable outcome could be worked out for Kashmir and perhaps that would suffice, for now. Pushing any conflict further down the line as other factors in India come to a head.

Mods, @waz @Eagle ..requesting your intervention for the above personal attack and abuse. Trolls like these will pull down the quality of discussion to their levels

 

[colonel rajesh]

What idiotic nonsense is this that India continuously equates taking loans with some sort of poverty?

Individuals, corporations and nations all need to maintain some loans in order to maintain a credit rating. All nations are continually making repayments to someone somewhere, and it's a healthy state to be in. You probably wouldn't understand any of that living debt-free in your mother's basement.

problem is you bad economic conditions , you are forced to taking loan from china who is enslaving the country where it goes with its investment .you are in chinese debt trap .

Everyone knows India is the one that released Covid all new research suggests that. Thats why many countries are sick and tired of India and its disgusting habits.

lol pakistani wisdom ....

 

[Saudang]

I can guess the answer.

1- These people are not stupid to spend US$ 30 bn a year for nothing.

2- They are spending these huge amounts to protect an "Invisible" property. There must be something worthwhile and important.

3- If you cannot see the physical signs of that "Invisible property", look at invisible things. The invisible things are like "goodwill, Influence, strategic policy" etc. etc.

4- Take Australia and New Zealand. They are extensions of "White, Colonial" slave traders, who have wiped indigenous populations around the world. By having these outposts, the "White Race" read in to Anglo-Saxon-Celtic branch of it, have made all the waters and territory between them and these two outposts their legitimate "domain".

5- In other words, from Pacific Ocean to these outposts (USA), from Atlantic Ocean to the "Red Sea" etc UK ( Lesser degree Ireland) and their Colonial Cousins EU towards the Indian Ocean and from Indian to Pacific again, everything in between them are "Their Legitimate interests". Or in other words , the whole globe is their legitimate interests domain, where only they can rule. Nobody would be allowed to rule , if someone does, it would be demonised and marginalised. What is happening to China at the moment. What had happened to others before, starting from "Ottomans" to the "USSR, i.e. Russians".

6- India is nothing but a pawn or an outpost, connecting the Indian and Pacific ocean and helping to keep control of it, albeit in a far lesser degree.

7- Japan is only there due to their centuries old feuds and wars with China. They still live in fears that in the future China will avenge their brutalities against Chinese. So they are trying to protect themselves from growing Chinese strength and power.

In other words, if China is allow to dominate that region, which it surely would, the "Hegemony" and "World Dominance" of White, Colonial Masters is over.

Here is the small problem, you are criticizing the Anglo Saxon dominance of world order in one hand but living a life where every aspects of it is influenced by it be it the language you are using, inventions, laws, values they follow, even your ability to criticize them, because their social values allow you to have a different opinion. Not that i am supporting their atrocities in the past, but do appreciate their contributions which are positive...

Now you want to bet on a upcoming power, who has little to no contribution to modern society, and who's historic records are some of the bloodiest in mankind's history... Let China contribute and earn the respect of others.. so far their contributions are cheap products, being a bully and COVID..

 

[Bawag]

cheerleaders are happy cheering masters.

Cheerleaders and Master relationship ................ hmmmm interesting logical association!

Seems like someone had a couple of drinks of "Cow-Cola mixed with alcohol"

 

[shanlung]

What idiotic nonsense is this that India continuously equates taking loans with some sort of poverty?

Individuals, corporations and nations all need to maintain some loans in order to maintain a credit rating. All nations are continually making repayments to someone somewhere, and it's a healthy state to be in. You probably wouldn't understand any of that living debt-free in your mother's basement.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10158952338943421

 

[Uguduwa]

Adding india to quad itself was a mistake. India is more of a burden.q

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Mods, @waz @Eagle ..requesting your intervention for the above personal attack and abuse. Trolls like these will pull down the quality of discussion to their levels

Did you really get offended by casual play on words on your alter ego(as I recall Cowdung holds a special appreciation, value and utility for Indians unless it doesn't in your case)? Or was it the content/context of my post, which as I can read above is not about you but a response to yours... so which is it?

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Adding india to quad itself was a mistake. India is more of a burden.q

India turned the quad into a quadriplegic.