Russia ready to sell MI-35 helicopters to Pakistan: Alexey Y. Dedov

[syedali73]

Read Arsalan's post again. We don't need an assembly line just depot level maintenance which is already there.
Araz

I did talk about an assembly line for some medium lift helicopter and used Mi-17 as an example of medium lift helicopters. I understand that Russians may not allow an assembly line for THE Mi-17 helicopters. Pakistan is having depot level maintenance for Mi-8 (predecessor of Mi-17) for at least two decades and have learnt great deal about this particular type. Given the need of medium lift helicopters, we should pay attention to get them build in Pakistan.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I was responding to this line
"Whats the harm if we could establish a manufacturing facility with the help of China for medium lift helicopters such as Mi-17?"

China got one ..

Azerbaijani army use many Mi-35. probably Pakistan have tested it or see it and recieved our real experience reviews thanks to our good relationship..

We have used then in the past Afghan and soviet defectors .. Over half a dozen of them landed in Pak .. 1 was given to China .. 2 to USA.. Others remained in use for some time .. Some ended in scrapyards:

P.S: Chinese Zullus have landed in Pak:

 

[wiseone2]

I did talk about an assembly line for some medium lift helicopter and used Mi-17 as an example of medium lift helicopters. I understand that Russians may not allow an assembly line for THE Mi-17 helicopters. Pakistan is having depot level maintenance for Mi-7 (predecessor of Mi-17) for at least two decades and have learnt great deal about this particular type. Given the need of medium lift helicopters, we should pay attention to get them build in Pakistan.

It is easy to acquire technology for light helicopter
it gets difficult to acquire technology for building medium to heavy helicopters

Russia usually allows India to make all kinds of systems under license. Mi-17 helicopters is one of the few where they have not allowed.

 

[araz]

I did talk about an assembly line for some medium lift helicopter and used Mi-17 as an example of medium lift helicopters. I understand that Russians may not allow an assembly line for THE Mi-17 helicopters. Pakistan is having depot level maintenance for Mi-7 (predecessor of Mi-17) for at least two decades and have learnt great deal about this particular type. Given the need of medium lift helicopters, we should pay attention to get them build in Pakistan.

Saheb.
I fully understood the logic behind the post. As you have rightly mentioned it is a case of priorities. We dont need enough numbers to have an assembly line. However if things progress we may establish one . Commonality of engines/ equipment would be a key consìderation ingoing for such a platform
Araz

It is easy to acquire technology for light helicopter
it gets difficult to acquire technology for building medium to heavy helicopters

Russia usually allows India to make all kinds of systems under license. Mi-17 helicopters is one of the few where they have not allowed.

That may well have been the case. However the question for PAA remains the need and cost benefit both of which work against acquiring such technology. However if a need was felt rest assured a vendor would be found. Even for India if Russia does not give permission And the need is there they will acquire the tech from EU or some other providers. I think helo building is a lot more complex than jets and India might not yet be confident of its capabilities which maybe why they have not gone for it. My 2 pennies worth which may or may not be the fact.
Araz

 

[Devil Soul]

Russia to deliver MI 35 helicopter to Pakistan
April 02, 2015, 6:43 pm

Islamabad- Russian Ambassador in Islamabad Alexey Y. Dedov today said that negotiations are underway for the delivery of MI 35 helicopter to Pakistan.

Talking about Pak-Russia defence cooperation, Alexey Dedov said that both the countries have signed different agreements for the military cooperation.

He told Radio Pakistan that as far as military technical cooperation is concerned, negotiations are underway for the delivery of MI 35 helicopter to Pakistan. It has been politically approved. He said as soon as the contract will be signed, MI 35 helicopter will be delivered to Pakistan.

The Russian Ambassador said that Pakistan and Russia are cooperating in different sectors, including energy and defence and other sectors. He said much progress has also been achieved on the gas pipeline project, between the two countries

Lauding the role of Pakistan in the war against terrorism, the Russian Ambassador said that a delegation of Ambassadors based in Islamabad, visited Peshawar to express solidarity with the victims of the Peshawar incident. “During the visit we felt the gravity of the situation. The population of Pakistan is fighting side by side with the armed forces against the terrorists and have scarified a lot in this war,” he said.

To a question about Pak-Afghan relation, the Ambassador said that these relations are moving in a positive direction. He said Russia welcomes Pakistan's role for peace and reconciliation in Afghanistan. He said the defence cooperation between the two countries have improved that will help eradicate the menace of terrorism from the region.

Talking about the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan, Alexey Dedov said that the international community should not abandon Afghanistan, till the achievements of the targets. He said the troops should be withdrawn after the settlement of the problem. He said Russia has supported Pakistan's efforts for peaceful solution of the Yemen issue through political and diplomatic means.

The Ambassador said that it is the responsibility of the international community to play its role for the peaceful solution of the Yemen issue. He said efforts should be made to engage the stakeholders in meaningful dialogue.

 

[wiseone2]

Russia to deliver MI 35 helicopter to Pakistan
April 02, 2015, 6:43 pm

Islamabad- Russian Ambassador in Islamabad Alexey Y. Dedov today said that negotiations are underway for the delivery of MI 35 helicopter to Pakistan.

Talking about Pak-Russia defence cooperation, Alexey Dedov said that both the countries have signed different agreements for the military cooperation.

He told Radio Pakistan that as far as military technical cooperation is concerned, negotiations are underway for the delivery of MI 35 helicopter to Pakistan. It has been politically approved. He said as soon as the contract will be signed, MI 35 helicopter will be delivered to Pakistan.

The Russian Ambassador said that Pakistan and Russia are cooperating in different sectors, including energy and defence and other sectors. He said much progress has also been achieved on the gas pipeline project, between the two countries

Lauding the role of Pakistan in the war against terrorism, the Russian Ambassador said that a delegation of Ambassadors based in Islamabad, visited Peshawar to express solidarity with the victims of the Peshawar incident. “During the visit we felt the gravity of the situation. The population of Pakistan is fighting side by side with the armed forces against the terrorists and have scarified a lot in this war,” he said.

To a question about Pak-Afghan relation, the Ambassador said that these relations are moving in a positive direction. He said Russia welcomes Pakistan's role for peace and reconciliation in Afghanistan. He said the defence cooperation between the two countries have improved that will help eradicate the menace of terrorism from the region.

Talking about the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan, Alexey Dedov said that the international community should not abandon Afghanistan, till the achievements of the targets. He said the troops should be withdrawn after the settlement of the problem. He said Russia has supported Pakistan's efforts for peaceful solution of the Yemen issue through political and diplomatic means.

The Ambassador said that it is the responsibility of the international community to play its role for the peaceful solution of the Yemen issue. He said efforts should be made to engage the stakeholders in meaningful dialogue.

Without signing a deal there will be no delivery

 

[Zarvan]

March 29, 2015, 8:42 pm
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Islamabad- Russian Ambassador Alexey Y. Dedov has welcomed the resumption of talks between Pakistan and India. Dedov is currently visiting different Pakistani cities to explore avenues of economic cooperation. He also supported Islamabad's stance on Afghanistan, saying Pakistan can contribute in stabilizing Afghanistan.

He said that Russia was ready to sell MI-35 helicopters to Pakistan. Pakistan had placed an order to Russia for purchase of the latest MI-35 helicopters.

Russia ready to sell MI-35 helicopters to Pakistan: Alexey Y. Dedov

Its been months and still no one knows the progress

Question is How many and when ?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

FANTASTIC NEWS

 

[The SC]

Question is How many and when ?

I have seen 4, 20 and 40 (including some MI-28s) in different threads from different sources.

 

[araz]

I have seen 4, 20 and 40 (including some MI-28s) in different threads from different sources.

I think 20 is the commonly touted number. It is interesting that all of a sudden so many avenues have opened up for Pakistan all of a sudden. I think it would be foolish to dezert the Russians at this juncture and PAA must buy MI35. Whether PAA can use a competitive comparison to drive down the per unit cost is another thing and I think it would be fairly legitimate. The US deal Iam afraid is done and dusted as the offer is too good to refuse although the price could be negotiated. I feel sorry for our Turk brothers as it is likely THEY will lose out on this real.
Araz

 

[majid mehmood]

is mi 35 delivered
link pls

 

[Viking 63]

Good Helis but maintenance nightmare ~~!!

 

[araz]

I did talk about an assembly line for some medium lift helicopter and used Mi-17 as an example of medium lift helicopters. I understand that Russians may not allow an assembly line for THE Mi-17 helicopters. Pakistan is having depot level maintenance for Mi-8 (predecessor of Mi-17) for at least two decades and have learnt great deal about this particular type. Given the need of medium lift helicopters, we should pay attention to get them build in Pakistan.

Thank you for your post. I think our requirement for medium lift helo is around 80 units. Would you sstablish a building facility for that few numbers. I understand if we needed 100 plus units it might make sense. The second thing is the complexity of the helicopter and PAC ability to absorb the tech. I can say that at the moment PAC might find its hands too full to take on another project.
Araz

 

[HAIDER]

Thank you for your post. I think our requirement for medium lift helo is around 80 units. Would you sstablish a building facility for that few numbers. I understand if we needed 100 plus units it might make sense. The second thing is the complexity of the helicopter and PAC ability to absorb the tech. I can say that at the moment PAC might find its hands too full to take on another project.
Araz

China started assembly line production of MI17 in 2008, don t think any problem for Pakistan.

 

[razgriz19]

Good Helis but maintenance nightmare ~~!!

How so?
They're same as Mi-17s and the -17s are one of the simplest machines to maintain. Even the afghans chose these over American aircraft