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Russia is building a new aircraft carrier its navy chief confirmed on Monday, according to reports in state-owned media outlets.

On Monday Itar-Tass News Agency reported that Viktor Chirkov, Russia’s top naval commander, announced Russia is building a new aircraft carrier.


"The Navy will have an aircraft carrier. The research companies are working on it, and strictly in compliance with the requirements from the Chief Commander," the reported quoted Chirkov as saying. Itar-Tass did not report any additional details except that Chirkov made the remarks while speaking to workers at the Kolomensky Zavod plant. The plant makes diesel electric engines for navy vessels. which makes diesel electric engines.

Russia currently has one operational aircraft carrier, Admiral Kuznetsov, which was launched by the Soviet Union in 1985. However, last month Russian media outlets began reporting that the government-owned Krylov State Research Center was in the rudimentary stages of developing a new carrier-class for the Russian navy.

The reports said that the carrier was still in the conceptual phase of planning. However, when completed the new Russian aircraft carrier would reportedly be able to hold roughly 100 aircraft on board. That would make it 10 percent larger than America’s current Nimitz-class aircraft carrier, which can store roughly 90 aircraft carrier.


In addition, the reports last month claimed that the new carriers would utilize catapult take-off launch systems. All Soviet-era carriers used ski-ramps to launch aircraft from their flight decks. However, a scaled mockup of the new carrier shown on Russian television had the old ski-ramp style launch systems.

The reports last month were greeted with some skepticism abroad. Writing in Reuters, for instance, War is Boring’s David Axe said the new carrier “is likely to remain a paper concept. A quarter-century after the Soviet Union’s collapse, Russia lacks the money, expertise and industrial capacity to build aircraft carriers.” He later added: “But the Kremlin has failed to maintain its expensive shipyard facilities and perishable worker skills. So it can’t actually complete the new vessel any time soon.”

In recent years, Russia has launched a massive program to modernize its military equipment. The program was announced by then-President Dmitry Medvedev in a speech in early 2010. At the time, he said the goal was to revamp “arms and equipment at a rate of 9 to 11 percent per year for the next decade, in order to reach a target of modernizing 70 percent of military equipment by 2020.” That same year Russian officials said the rearmament program would cost around $600 billion.

While many foreign analysts dismissed the announcements as mere bluster at the time, since then Russia has been debuting new weapon systems at an impressive rate. As Nikolas Gvosdev wrote in The National Interest last year, “Russia is now engaged in its largest military buildup since the collapse of the Soviet Union more than two decades ago.” He went on to observe, “The rest of the world is taking notice.”

Image: Wikimedia/Gaz Armes


Russia Is Building New Aircraft Carrier, Navy Chief Confirms | The National Interest Blog
 
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Russian will create a beast only next to the American . May be more as they also want to build AC which will be 10-15 percent larger than US AC . So expect N-FGFA with ability to take off with Electro magnetic catapult system in no time .
 
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A catapult launch system would mean a CATOBAR-compatible version of PAK-FA/FGFA.

Interesting option for IAC-2...although the timelines could be scary.
 
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Russian will create a beast only next to the American . May be more as they also want to build AC which will be 10-15 percent larger than US AC . So expect N-FGFA with ability to take off with Electro magnetic catapult system in no time .

I am hoping for that too. N-FGFA would be a killer. + I think Major modifications might occur to air frames on Mig-35 to suite it for carrier based operations! This is getting exciting because we might get access to all these technologies too.

A catapult launch system would mean a CATOBAR-compatible version of PAK-FA/FGFA.

Interesting option for IAC-2...although the timelines could be scary.

Its also gonna be nuclear powered. I hope Russia and India Agree for Co-development of nuclear propulsion system for Vishal! or Maybe help with the tech.
 
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A catapult launch system would mean a CATOBAR-compatible version of PAK-FA/FGFA.

Interesting option for IAC-2...although the timelines could be scary.

Nope, it means they want EMALS to launch AEW or transport aircrafts and in future UCAVs, while the Mig 29Ks and N-Pak Fa's will use the proven ski-jump take off system. =>

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It will be the most capable carrier, with the most capable airwing!
 
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Russian will create a beast only next to the American . May be more as they also want to build AC which will be 10-15 percent larger than US AC . So expect N-FGFA with ability to take off with Electro magnetic catapult system in no time .
I seriously doubt this, the Russians have little expertise in steam catapults/CATOBAR carriers let alone EMALS they are a LONG way out (decades) from making this fantasy a reality and india shouldn't be used to find these delusions whilst the Russian economy plummets.

A catapult launch system would mean a CATOBAR-compatible version of PAK-FA/FGFA.

Interesting option for IAC-2...although the timelines could be scary.
No doubt a N-FGFA able to take off from catapults would be the IN's dream BUT is this what this news is promising? I'm skeptical. We know the Russians have been proposing a hybrid CATOBAR/STOBAR carrier for some time wherein the N-PAK- FA would take off using a ramp but larger a/c like AEW would be launched using a catapult. This news doesn't seem to move away from this position or give any indication the Russians are able to or interested in making the PAK-FA/FGFA capable of launching from catapults.

I am hoping for that too. N-FGFA would be a killer. + I think Major modifications might occur to air frames on Mig-35 to suite it for carrier based operations! This is getting exciting because we might get access to all these technologies too.



Its also gonna be nuclear powered. I hope Russia and India Agree for Co-development of nuclear propulsion system for Vishal! or Maybe help with the tech.
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I wouldn't be so hopeful. The Russian economy is tanking I don't see how they can afford anything even remotely as ambitious as this for the medium term whislt the IN is right now finalising the design for the IAC-2.

I'm not interested in seeing india sign up for another "co-development" with Russia that leads to little but contractual disputes, inevitable delays, cost hikes, vast amounts of indian funds but little actual ToT for india.

These Russians are going to try and milk india no more than ever. I for one am not hoping for this to move ahead.

At least with the Americans you know what you are signing up for from the outset.

+ let's remember the IN is all but certain to go for the General Dynamics EMALS and work is going on on this front.


The Russian daydreams can go and impress another cash-rich nation, india needs to stop being their bottomless treasure chest
 
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I seriously doubt this, the Russians have little expertise in steam catapults/CATOBAR carriers let alone EMALS they are a LONG way out (decades) from making this fantasy a reality and india shouldn't be used to find these delusions whilst the Russian economy plummets.



I wouldn't be so hopeful. The Russian economy is tanking I don't see how they can afford anything even remotely as ambitious as this for the medium term whislt the IN is right now finalising the design for the IAC-2.

I'm not interested in seeing india sign up for another "co-development" with Russia that leads to little but contractual disputes, inevitable delays, cost hikes, vast amounts of indian funds but little actual ToT for india.

These Russians are going to try and milk india no more than ever. I for one am not hoping for this to move ahead.

At least with the Americans you know what you are signing up for from the outset.

+ let's remember the IN is all but certain to go for the General Dynamics EMALS and work is going on on this front.


The Russian daydreams can go and impress another cash-rich nation, india needs to stop being their bottomless treasure chest


Navy planning to buy 3 squadrons on Mig-29k. Two on the carriers i.e viki and vikrant! and one they have kept in reserve. I wonder If IAC-2 will use a sky-jump along with emals to launch AEWACs and transport fleet. It would be IAFs dream to have N-FGFA in its inventory alongside 29, N-lCA.
 
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Do you think IAC-2 maybe of a similar type,, given that the navy has still not finalised a design yet?
Highly unlikely, there are no indications of such. All we know is the IN is very interested in having CATAOBAR capability on the IAC-2 and ideally this would be EMALS for which they have pushed hard.

The design was but finalised then all this talk of nuclear propulsion came into the public domain......

Perhaps the IN, on the back KF more detailed briefings from GD, have understood that to have EMALS they need a nuclear reactor.


Other than that I wouldn't bet my house on such a hybrid concept. There's a reason the world leaders (the US) in this field haven't gone down this road- it comes with its own shortcomings.
 
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Navy planning to buy 3 squadrons on Mig-29k. Two on the carriers i.e viki and vikrant! and one they have kept in reserve. I wonder If IAC-2 will use a sky-jump along with emals to launch AEWACs and transport fleet. It would be IAFs dream to have N-FGFA in its inventory alongside 29, N-lCA.
See my above post.


And has the IN shown any interest in the FGFA to date? Not that I know of. If such a hybrid design was on its way for that IAC-2 then surely they would have been briefed on the FGFA and got involved in the project by now given this is the fighter they are designing their next generation carrier around.

As such I'm very skeptical the N-FGFA will ever Be a reality....
 
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Russian will create a beast only next to the American . May be more as they also want to build AC which will be 10-15 percent larger than US AC . So expect N-FGFA with ability to take off with Electro magnetic catapult system in no time .

They simply won't built anything as big as American carriers because of Russia's geographic limitations. I wonder where would be the home port of this carrier. Sevastopol? St. Petersburg? Vladivostok?
 
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I am hoping for that too. N-FGFA would be a killer. + I think Major modifications might occur to air frames on Mig-35 to suite it for carrier based operations! This is getting exciting because we might get access to all these technologies too.



Its also gonna be nuclear powered. I hope Russia and India Agree for Co-development of nuclear propulsion system for Vishal! or Maybe help with the tech.

As far as fgfa is concerned we can have first squadron of Russian variant same like we did for su 30 . We will have enough training to operate FGFA .

N FGFA + N LCA MK2 + N AMCA will trasform our strength .
 
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As far as fgfa is concerned we can have first squadron of Russian variant same like we did for su 30 . We will have enough training to operate FGFA .

N FGFA + N LCA MK2 + N AMCA will trasform our strength .
If the N-FGFA comes to the IN (big if) the likelihood of a N-AMCA plummets yet lower (even now it is unlikely ).
 
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They simply won't built anything as big as American carriers because of Russia's geographic limitations. I wonder where would be the home port of this carrier. Sevastopol? St. Petersburg? Vladivostok?
I think Russians already decided with some specs . One of them is to have 10-15% larger than US AC by 1.15 lac T
 
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