Rift among Asians: Why are our borders, more volatile than the Westerners!!?

[Mystic League]

The geo-political situation among us Asia Continent dwellers.. The amount of hatred we brew amongst each other is much higher than the westerners in present times. Why is that the situation now? Are we gonna blame our historic oppressors for the present situation? The expansionist policies in every country and the political leadership need to keep the country together at all cost? Feeding on every citizens emotion for political domination. Each military achievement given more media coverage in the country, covering up our internal turmoil. Each country has been victorious in certain facets internally which can be used for our neighbours. Could we move towards a better interdependence? A unified coaxial front to bring forth better prosperity for the world atlarge to see? Yes Fanaticism, be it any factions in each of our nations breeds hatred. Common hatred is a strong unifying factor, none can deny that. But how long are we gonna keep looking back into our history and seek reparation and revenge? If you look back you will stumble on even the tiniest pothole in front of you. Shall we cohesively look forward and pave the way of peace for subsequent generation. Yes! history does have bloodshed but how can we forget the common peace we had once celebrated. Can we for once break our differences and look for ways, wherein peace is always athand. Peace always comes at a cost, does that cost needs to be our neighbours blood or laying down our pride?

 

[fna]

30 years war. napoleanic wars, world war 1; world war 2 called. not to talk about the various wars in the colonies. the thing that changes everything is MAD. it be nice as pakistanis and indians overseas are mostly cordial to each other. but if no one fanned the flames to tera kya ho ga kaliya (politicians in india, army in pakistan).

 

[TheSolution]

Because we've just recently been truly independent, Europeans had their fair share of conflicts too historically

We are in the early process of the Europeans.

Expect more death.

 

[KaiserX]

Europe has seen the level of war which south asia has never ever seen in history. We need the level of violence that we see in ukraine today before there can ever be peace.

 

[Mystic League]

Well both in WW1 and WW2 the maximum casualities were from British India. We were trained by our colonial rulers to help them and there are several warrior clans all through India who were willing to fight as it was their heritage. Almost all the Sepoys in the 2 wars were Indians hence maximum casuality were Indians. During WW2 a lot of American soldiers were stationed in India to stop any revolution from happening locally against the ruling British and Indian soldiers were loyal to the queen. Ofcourse we also had the INA who were the Indian POW in the Axis camp trained under Subash Chandra Bose with Hitler and the Imperial Japan. He had strong differences against the ruling Congress and the Muslim League. After the end of WW2 in 1945 he was never allowed to enter India or Pakistan but after the war in Burma where INA and British Indian soldiers fought each other they had infiltrated India and eventually the Royal Navy Mutiny post WW2 in India was the main reason for Lord Mount Batten to leave india alone with it's own baggage of religious fervor and language fervor.

 

[PakFactor]

Well both in WW1 and WW2 the maximum casualities were from British India. We were trained by our colonial rulers to help them and there are several warrior clans all through India who were willing to fight as it was their heritage. Almost all the Sepoys in the 2 wars were Indians hence maximum casuality were Indians. During WW2 a lot of American soldiers were stationed in India to stop any revolution from happening locally against the ruling British and Indian soldiers were loyal to the queen. Ofcourse we also had the INA who were the Indian POW in the Axis camp trained under Subash Chandra Bose with Hitler and the Imperial Japan. He had strong differences against the ruling Congress and the Muslim League. After the end of WW2 in 1945 he was never allowed to enter India or Pakistan but after the war in Burma where INA and British Indian soldiers fought each other they had infiltrated India and eventually the Royal Navy Mutiny post WW2 in India was the main reason for Lord Mount Batten to leave india alone with it's own baggage of religious fervor and language fervor.

Had those British Indian soldiers revolted and overthrown the British and not become cannon fodder, I don't respect a British Indian dead solider cunt lying six feet under. They wasted their life.

 

[Imran Khan]

Its good if all borders closed forever if i Hve power i will not let evwn birds to enter

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

it be nice as pakistanis and indians overseas are mostly cordial to each other.

Only on face..

 

[STREANH]

Had those British Indian soldiers revolted and overthrown the British and not become cannon fodder, I don't respect a British Indian dead solider cunt lying six feet under. They wasted their life.

Easier for you to say this now. But back then, filling the stomachs of your family was the main priority for people due to widespread poverty. Also there was no means of effective communication amongst people to plan and revolt, unlike modern times.

 

[beijingwalker]

Cause the west trained many lapdogs in Asia to guard their interests. These dogs will bark at and ferociously bite whoever challenges their western masters.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Europe fought and settled on its borders... even U.K in Ireland until very recently. The only thing that managed to put these disputes under the rug has been the supraimposed entity of E.U.. Which made the internal conflicts meaningless... allowing ease of movement and Incorporating all perhaps historically disenfranchised.
The flip side are the colonized, their borders were decided by overlords. And there is only two things they can do about them, accept them as they are, or moan/fight to acquire... a lot of time just mere land and nothing to do with people or their ancestral lands.
Further, no supranational entities exist to ameliorate the situations for travel, trade, enfrachisement/emancipation or governance.

 

[AA_]

Only on face..

How so? We hardly have any Indian friends even Muslim ones. They don’t matter to us. Not saying you’re wrong, but how?

Easier for you to say this now. But back then, filling the stomachs of your family was the main priority for people due to widespread poverty. Also there was no means of effective communication amongst people to plan and revolt, unlike modern times.

Not just that, few groups were loyal to the British because it meant the survival of their groups against the backdrop of social dynamics being played out. Those martial race BS stems from this. They were given preferences over others.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

The geo-political situation among us Asia Continent dwellers.. The amount of hatred we brew amongst each other is much higher than the westerners in present times. Why is that the situation now? Are we gonna blame our historic oppressors for the present situation? The expansionist policies in every country and the political leadership need to keep the country together at all cost? Feeding on every citizens emotion for political domination. Each military achievement given more media coverage in the country, covering up our internal turmoil. Each country has been victorious in certain facets internally which can be used for our neighbours. Could we move towards a better interdependence? A unified coaxial front to bring forth better prosperity for the world atlarge to see? Yes Fanaticism, be it any factions in each of our nations breeds hatred. Common hatred is a strong unifying factor, none can deny that. But how long are we gonna keep looking back into our history and seek reparation and revenge? If you look back you will stumble on even the tiniest pothole in front of you. Shall we cohesively look forward and pave the way of peace for subsequent generation. Yes! history does have bloodshed but how can we forget the common peace we had once celebrated. Can we for once break our differences and look for ways, wherein peace is always athand. Peace always comes at a cost, does that cost needs to be our neighbours blood or laying down our pride?

The main culprits are India and Israel.

Take these two countries out of the map and we will have a peaceful and prosperous Asia.

 

[Kaniska]

The main culprits are India and Israel.

Take these two countries out of the map and we will have a peaceful and prosperous Asia.

I understand...Based on the thinking of foreign policy and the world view of your beloved Army, you took the Soviets and the West out of Afganistan to make a peaceful and prosperous Pakistan and Afganistan...

How come you guys have so much of hate and hatred even living in Western countries? Seriously, the very same culture you hate is the place where people with thought processes like you thrive and become successful in your life...

 

[Mystic League]

Cause the west trained many lapdogs in Asia to guard their interests. These dogs will bark at and ferociously bite whoever challenges their western masters.

What you are not realizing is it was the very same west who came to your rescue when your people were massacred during WW II by the neighbouring country. And by the way do forget your bloody history and the rise of every leader in your country who does not think twice in murdering, stealing and destroying their predecessors. The propaganda machine coming out of your so called country, which by the way is just made up... China was never once this big, this ever expanding borders with too many embellished historical narrative for the purpose of the Red Army and their cause for world domination and selfish benefits. How long are we gonna stick to some random historical narrative and pour so much fuel and think our bigoted opinions are better than our neighbours? We all have a shared history of peace and bloodshed, can't we get past it and not relive the same old history? Try and think for yourself for once and not what your Red Army is telling you? Excuses for bloodshed.. your neighbours are "Asian lapdogs for the West." Grow up kid, think for yourself for once?

The main culprits are India and Israel.

Take these two countries out of the map and we will have a peaceful and prosperous Asia.

"Take these two countries out of the map!!?!" Seems like you are really bloodthirsty, have you looked in the eye of a man dying? You think massacre is the answer? Abdul, do you know what murdering another person does to your psyche? Yes, I understand people who have spent their entire lifetime being numbed to the pain of murder and trained as assassin. Is that what you are aspiring to be? Barbaric West has seen 2 major wars involving rest of the world into it. Have you ever looked into your DNA, your ancestory and seen the amount of heartache our forefathers have seen. Do you think experiencing partition was easy? Which was right after a global war. Try to quit making blanket statements and see if you can say something of substance!