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#RemoveMughalsFromBooks: Bhakts campaign on Twitter to erase Mughal history from school books

Even though they left iconic and crucial marks on India and Indian people history? One of the most iconic Indian landmark such as the Taj Mahal amd the Red Fort was build by them.
We learn from you,just like you razed Buddhas of Bamiyan BEING RAZED and all other Infidel structures We are Reclaiming our Land like the RECONQUISTA OF SPAIN ! Why does it hurt your SECULAR TURKISH EH?????
 
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I can smell the "burnt @ss" all the way from here. :lol:

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We learn from you,just like you razed Buddhas of Bamiyan BEING RAZED and all other Infidel structures We are Reclaiming our Land like the RECONQUISTA OF SPAIN ! Why does it hurt your SECULAR TURKISH EH?????

The hell you talking about?
 
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See that....that's my middle finger waving across your face in response to your crude attempts to hijack south relations with India.

Tamizhan Da- Indian Da...ellam onnu than..

Tamil refers to ethnicity , Indian (British creation) refers to nationality, Tamils have lived more than 3000 yrs in Tamil Eelam (now under Sinhala Aryan occupation) and 500 + years in Malaya etc. To those who claim Tamils= Indians, they deserve Tamils middle finger .

Tamil (Dravida -> Dramila -> Tamizha or Tamil), Tamils have existed long before Aryan Bharat, British created India or Lanka came into existence

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The Aryan invaders from west Persia /Central Asia in order to establish ownership over the conquered natives knew the original religions had to be replaced and this is where the stories in the puranas (mythologies)/ ithihasas (epics) came from. They were rip-offs from the originals (e.g Tamils' sthala puranams'), which had their origins long before Vedic Aryan Brahmanism (Hinduism) ever reared its ugly head.

Siva stole from and replaced with Vedic Rudra, Thiru-mal (Maal/Mayon ) stole and replaced with Vishnu/ Krishna, Murugan/Seyon stole and replaced with Skanda/Kathikey.

These 'stories' were deliberately recited orally, in an alien language - to prevent accessibility to Dravidas (from Dramila - Tamila) and original Tamil sources destroyed,
 
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But and its a BIG BUT the fact remains that hindus were slaves of Mughals, they were your masters and whether you remove the facts from books or no, the history will not change.




#RemoveMughalsFromBooks: Bhakts campaign on Twitter to erase Mughal history from school books
On Wednesday, the hashtag #RemoveMughalsFromBooks, was one of the top trends of Twitter. The topic of debate- whether Mughal history should be taught to children in schools or not.
India.com News DeskonMarch 2, 2016 at 10:18 AMEmail
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March 2: Sanghis it seems have no other issues to raise and hence, taking a leaf out of their respected Union HRD Minister Smriti Irani, are running a campaign to review and selectively ‘cleanse’ the history syllabus being taught in schools across the country. A few days after Irani raised questions in the Parliament at the content in a class 4 teacher’s handbook, a trend has emerged, on the microblogging website Twitter, to remove Mughal history from textbooks being taught in schools.

On Wednesday, the hashtag #RemoveMughalsFromBooks, was one of the top trends of Twitter. The topic of the debate was whether Mughal history should be celebrated or taught to our children in schools or not. The central argument of those in favour of removing Mughals from history, was that Mughal rulers looted and plundered Indian lands, destroyed Hindu temples and monuments, and converted thousands of Hindus. Sanghi twitterati rallied around this argument and pushed for replacement of Mughal history with stories of ‘real heroes’, as some of them put it.Also Read: Smriti Irani on school books: Will abide by constitutional modalities











And of course the argument of the destruction of Ram Temple by Babur, featured as one of the arguments..


Narendra Modi Fan‎@Narendramodi_G
1528 AD – Mir Baki, the Commander-in-Chief of Babur destroys the Shri Ram Janmabhoomi Temple at Ayodhya.#RemoveMughalsFromBooks

8:59 PM - 1 Mar 2016


There were also some who ridiculed the trend and the arguments that it’s based on and responded with sarcasm and humour. People raised the questions on the argument that a part of the history should be removed, saying that hushing up the truth about India’s past cannot make it disappear- because, you know, logic.


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Visa‎@Visa83949083
#RemoveMughalsFromBooks
Sanghies playing emotional trick. Making people believe that whatever RSS does is correct.

9:04 AM - 2 Mar 2016


Sandeep Roy‎@sandeeproy1
So, the British came and won the country from no one?#RemoveMughalsFromBooks

8:56 AM - 2 Mar 2016


dhiraj tiwari‎@djmadguy
Where will the historical monuments go?? Will bhakts try to remove them too, which were made by mugals??
#RemoveMughalsFromBooks


We’ll let this tweet have the last word. Enough said.


Be'Havin!‎@WrongDoc

Denial and repressing memory are the immature defense mechanisms of a traumatized society. That's what#RemoveMughalsFromBookssuggests.


#RemoveMughalsFromBooks: Bhakts campaign on Twitter to erase Mughal history from school books | Latest News & Gossip on Popular Trends at India.com
 
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What do they teach about you in India about Babur? Fun fact: Turkey actually considers the Mughal empire part of its history(based on dynastic grounds, though personally it seems exaggerated). For example one of the 16 stars of the seal of presidency is dedicated to the Mughal empire, though we dont call it like that, instead we say Babur imparatorlugu(Babur empire).

The Mughal empire has always been taught as a major development in Indian history. Like any empire it had it's good (Akbar), neutral (Jehangir the opium addict) and bad (Aurangzeb whose puritanism screwed the subcontinent and eventually destroyed the Mughal empire itself. No Babur was only an adventurer, nothing great about him beyond making use of political situation to get a toehold. Most Mughal empire building was done by Akbar. And np, there is no reason to consider 16 stars etc. to Mughal in India coz for a very long time they imported their ruling class from outside as against the natives. Really weird that turkey should use events in a distant land with such political significance today. Don't you have your own history to borrow for your seal?

This is long needed activity.
Mughal empire did not cover even 1/3rd of india.
not sure why our history books so much importance to them!?

the united states doesn't cover even 10% of world but any history of the 20th century without them is useless. There is this thing called outsized influence.

But and its a BIG BUT the fact remains that hindus were slaves of Mughals, they were your masters and whether you remove the facts from books or no, the history will not change.

much like how we're your masters now...... and what about the Rajputs, the Marathas, the Sikhs who covered the rest of the 70%of the country the mughals did't rule. Must feel nice jerking off to these thoughts of history no?

Tamil refers to ethnicity , Indian (British creation) refers to nationality, Tamils have lived more than 3000 yrs in Tamil Eelam (now under Sinhala Aryan occupation) and 500 + years in Malaya etc. To those who claim Tamils= Indians, they deserve Tamils middle finger .

Tamil (Dravida -> Dramila -> Tamizha or Tamil), Tamils have existed long before Aryan Bharat, British created India or Lanka came into existence

11068099_665241540254432_7504302966960070012_n.jpg


The Aryan invaders from west Persia /Central Asia in order to establish ownership over the conquered natives knew the original religions had to be replaced with something else and this is where all of the stories in the puranas (mythologies)/ ithihasas (epic) came from. They were all rip-offs from the originals (e.g Tamils' sthala puranams'), which had their origins long before Vedic Aryan Brahmanism (Hinduism) ever reared its ugly head.

Siva stole from and replaced with Vedic Rudra, Thiru-mal (Maal/Mayon ) stole and replaced with Vishnu/ Krishna, Murugan/Seyon stole and replaced with Skanda/Kathikey.

These 'stories' were deliberately recited orally, in an alien language - to prevent accessibility to Dravidas (from Dramila - Tamila) and original Tamil sources destroyed,

Nice, now tell this in Tamil nadu and we'll probably beat you extensively
 
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Stupid people.. A balance is what is required.. And unbiased report. Teach about the Mughals but the good and bad. Similarly about others. That's all.
Teaching about Mughals is important not just because they were the last dynasty to rule more or less entire India. Most of the laws in India, which are added to British Government Act are based on Mughal law. For example, taxation of agriculture in India is based on Mughal administration largely. The legal vocabulary is from those days. I think even our inheritance law used to be based on the law from Mughals. Of course we don't have Jizya now and have equality for women under law(at least non-Muslim women).

Jaundiced eyes see everything in their color.
 
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#RemoveMughalsFromBooks: Bhakts campaign on Twitter to erase Mughal history from school books
On Wednesday, the hashtag #RemoveMughalsFromBooks, was one of the top trends of Twitter. The topic of debate- whether Mughal history should be taught to children in schools or not.
India.com News DeskonMarch 2, 2016 at 10:18 AMEmail
1Shares
Comments
rahman.jpg

March 2: Sanghis it seems have no other issues to raise and hence, taking a leaf out of their respected Union HRD Minister Smriti Irani, are running a campaign to review and selectively ‘cleanse’ the history syllabus being taught in schools across the country. A few days after Irani raised questions in the Parliament at the content in a class 4 teacher’s handbook, a trend has emerged, on the microblogging website Twitter, to remove Mughal history from textbooks being taught in schools.

On Wednesday, the hashtag #RemoveMughalsFromBooks, was one of the top trends of Twitter. The topic of the debate was whether Mughal history should be celebrated or taught to our children in schools or not. The central argument of those in favour of removing Mughals from history, was that Mughal rulers looted and plundered Indian lands, destroyed Hindu temples and monuments, and converted thousands of Hindus. Sanghi twitterati rallied around this argument and pushed for replacement of Mughal history with stories of ‘real heroes’, as some of them put it.Also Read: Smriti Irani on school books: Will abide by constitutional modalities











And of course the argument of the destruction of Ram Temple by Babur, featured as one of the arguments..


Narendra Modi Fan‎@Narendramodi_G
1528 AD – Mir Baki, the Commander-in-Chief of Babur destroys the Shri Ram Janmabhoomi Temple at Ayodhya.#RemoveMughalsFromBooks

8:59 PM - 1 Mar 2016


There were also some who ridiculed the trend and the arguments that it’s based on and responded with sarcasm and humour. People raised the questions on the argument that a part of the history should be removed, saying that hushing up the truth about India’s past cannot make it disappear- because, you know, logic.


Ccg1vc9W0AAaYbW.jpg





Visa‎@Visa83949083
#RemoveMughalsFromBooks
Sanghies playing emotional trick. Making people believe that whatever RSS does is correct.

9:04 AM - 2 Mar 2016


Sandeep Roy‎@sandeeproy1
So, the British came and won the country from no one?#RemoveMughalsFromBooks

8:56 AM - 2 Mar 2016


dhiraj tiwari‎@djmadguy
Where will the historical monuments go?? Will bhakts try to remove them too, which were made by mugals??
#RemoveMughalsFromBooks


We’ll let this tweet have the last word. Enough said.


Be'Havin!‎@WrongDoc

Denial and repressing memory are the immature defense mechanisms of a traumatized society. That's what#RemoveMughalsFromBookssuggests.


#RemoveMughalsFromBooks: Bhakts campaign on Twitter to erase Mughal history from school books | Latest News & Gossip on Popular Trends at India.com



This is where i have a problem with these stupid people....We should be able to differentiate between anti Muslim and anti national people...If we do not know how to differentiate, then its is better to keep quite...If any one is really worried so much about Hindus, forget about Muslims or any NOn Hindus, we , the Hindus are biggest enemeny of each other...I am still feel suprised when even in this age, people kill their boys and girls just because they marry to other caste...So till this mindset is not changed, Hindus will be always opressed and will be a divided house...

So bottom line, introspect and keep our own house in order...Islamic history has a rough memory in India, but the fact is by simply erasing from history book, fact will not change that Mughals ruled India...So why is so much fuss about it...
 
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I am still feel suprised when even in this age, people kill their boys and girls just because they marry to other caste...So till this mindset is not changed, Hindus will be always opressed and will be a divided house...

Casteism is the biggest enemy of Hindus. Sincerely hope to see caste system vanish in my life time and Hindus become just entity - HINDU
 
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5 quintessentially Indian things that will have to go if we #RemoveMughalsFromBooks

5 quintessentially Indian things that will have to go if we #RemoveMughalsFromBooks
From the Hindi language to shalwar suits to having Delhi as India’s capital – without the Mughal period and the preceding Delhi Sultanate, modern India would be a rather different place.
Shoaib Daniyal · Today · 08:00 am
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Twitter has many positive features but enabling careful debate and discussion is not one of them. Hate speech on the social network has reached levels where a growing chorus of voices areaskingwhether Twitter is dying.

This is, of course, doubly relevant on Indian Twitter, where all of Wednesday #RemoveMughalsFromBooks trended, a particular vituperative and simple-minded hashtag, even taking past trends into account.





“Mughals” are of course a rather well-known dog whistle with which to attack India’s Muslim minority. In the 1980s, during the movement to demolish the Babri Masjid, for example, “Babur ke aulad”, sons of Babur, was a frequent barb thrown at Muslims. Thus, on Twitter, #RemoveMughalsFromBooks soon began to encompass all of what colonial historiography had taken to classifying as the “Muslim period”.



This period starts with the Turkic sultanate of Qutb-ud-din Aibak in Delhi at the start of the 13th century and continued till the last Mughal Emperor was banished to Myanmar for leading the Revolt of 1857 against the British. In between, the Indo-Persian culture that these rulers of Delhi and the many sultanates that dotted India subscribed to, embedded itself deeply into the land – so much so that modern-India as we know it would not exist without it. Here are a few key contributions.


Delhi as capital
In the Indian mind, Delhi is the natural capital of the Indian nation. In the mid-1940s, as Subhash Chandra Bose, a Bengali politician, led an army of Indians based out of Singapore, his evocative cry was “Dilli chalo”, march on Delhi.

Remember, at the time, Delhi was a small town, dwarfed by the giant industrial centres of Calcutta, Bombay and Madras. It had been like this for some time. In the mid 19th century, when the poet Ghalib travelled to Calcutta, he was so wonderstruck by the avenues of Chowringhee that that he wrote asherspeaking of his jealousy as a Delhiwala. Even then, the emotional importance of Delhi did not decline.

The installation of Delhi as India’s capital started with the Turkic invasions. Right from Qutb-ud-din Aibak to the last Mughal emperor, Delhi was the political centre of North India and then – as the Mughals expanded – the centre of the subcontinent itself. Pan- subcontinental empires in India’s ancient period had their centre of gravity to the east, either in eastern Uttar Pradesh or Bihar.

So strong was Delhi’s siren song that even the British – looking for a contiguous link with the Mughals in order to legitimise their rule – moved their capital from Calcutta to Delhi in the 1930s. After 1947, the modern Indian state has maintained Delhi as the capital – and along with it, the Mughal link. While Prime Minister Narendra Modi hasmadeit quite clear that he considers Mughal rule to be a time of slavery, so strong is the imagery of Mughal Delhi in the Indian mind that even Modi needs to be seen standing on top of the imperial Mughal palace, the Red Fort, on days of national importance such as Republic Day or Independence Day.


The Hindi language
In 2009, Pranab Mukherjee quipped that he had never aspired to be prime minister because, as a Bengali, hisHindiwasn’t good enough. Mukherjee isn’t exactly a straight talker, but this had a ring of truth: while on paper, India is a federal union of linguistic states, Hindi occupies a charmed space as the country’s “Rajbhasha” or language of the Union government. But how did it ever get that way?

Hindi is what is called aregister(or style) of a language known as Khadi Boli (or Hindustani). While all languages have multiple registers (think Queen’s English and Nicki Minaj lyrics), Khadi Boli is rare in that it has two formal, written registers: Hindi and Urdu.

Use tons of Persian in your Khadi Boli and it becomes Ghalibian Urdu, boatloads of Sanskrit and you get Dinkarian Hindi. Khadi Boli, though, is only one of the many languages across the cow belt and one of hundreds of languages across India. In fact, even in the cow belt, historically, Khadi Boli was rarely used as a formal or literary language. In ancient and even in medieval India, the language of literature has mostly been Braj (think Kabir) or Awadhi (Ramcharitramanas).

How did Khadi Boli replace these two? The answer lies in its location: Delhi. Khadi is the native language of Delhi – the centre of power in north India ever since the first Turkic sultanate was set up. Thus, when Persian was losing sway as a literary language in the 18th century, the North Indian elite took to using a Persianised form of Khadi Boli called, of course, Urdu. A couple of centuries later, Hindi nationalism looked tochangeUrdu by replacing these imported Persian words with a more Sanskritised lexicon. Thus, was born modern standard Hindi.

Without the Mughals and their base in the Delhi region, for all you know, Hindi would not be a lingua franca and much of the cow belt would still be writing in Braj, Rajasthani or Awadhi, as they were a millennia ago.

Hindustani classical music
Without the Mughals – and Turkic rules in general – India would have no Hindustani classical music as we know it today. The dhrupad genre of Hindustani classical was shaped in the Mughal court by masters such as Tansen, under the direct patronage of the Mughal Emperor. So influential is Tansen that almost all gharanas try to trace a link to him.

Earlier, the 13th-century poet laureate of the Delhi Sultanate, Amir Khusro, is said to have invented the sitar, tabla and musical forms such as taraana, qual and khayaal – a one-man army whose contribution to the art and culture of north India is seminal.

The shalwar qameez
If Indian women had a national dress, what would it be? The sari? Undoubtedly, a magnificent garment, but one that is now almost totally confined to the marriage closet. India’s true national dress is, of course, the shalwar qameez. Step out into any city, be it Kolkata, Mumbai, Delhi or Hyderabad, the salwar suit is the primary sartorial choice of the modern Indian woman.

So quintessentially Indian is the shalwar qameez that there have actually been a spate of incidents where colleges havebannedjeans, western-style trousers and skirts and urged women to stick to sanskari Indian dresses such as the shalwar qameez.

Well, if we want to #RemoveMughalsFromBooks, to be logically consistent, we’ll also have to #RemoveSalwarSuitsfromCupboards because, guess what – the garment came into India during the sultanate and Mughal periods. Professor of Anthropology at the University of London, Emma Tarlowrites:

Muslim women generally wore a veil (dupatta), a long tunic (kamiz) with trousers (shalwar) or the wide-flared skirt like trousers (gharara). Following the Muslim conquest of northern India, many Hindu women gradually adopted such dress, eventually making it the regional style for parts of Northern India.

Oh and achkans, bandhgalas, sherwanis – and even the newly christened Modi jacket – will have to go as well. They are all sadly smeared by association with the Mughals.

The samosa
The samosa is a deep-fried pillar of Indianness. Back in Lalu Prasad Yadav’s heyday, his supporters coined the slogan, “jab tak rahega samosa main aloo, tab tak rahega Bihar main Lalu”: as long as there are samosas filled with potato, Lalu will be around in Bihar.

Like the Mughals, the samosa is Central Asian. The name isderivedfrom the medieval Persian word “sambosag” and in Mughal kitchens the pastry was often stuffed with minced meat. The mince samosa still survives and is popular as a Ramzan staple and as a small Hyderabadi turnover called the luqmi, amongst other variants. After leaving the Mughal kitchens, though, the pastry was most often stuffed with potato, the tuber being in itself a very recent addition to India, available only after Europeans found a route to the Americas. Two non-potato variants are the cauliflower samosa of Bengal and the Jain banana mash samosa.

The samosa is, of course, only one food item that would need to be eased out. Vast arrays of sweets (halwas, barfis), pulaos, biryanis and kababs will have to go through a rigorous vetting procedure in case India ever decides to do a thorough job of expunging the Mughals from its history.
 
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The Mughal empire has always been taught as a major development in Indian history. Like any empire it had it's good (Akbar), neutral (Jehangir the opium addict) and bad (Aurangzeb whose puritanism screwed the subcontinent and eventually destroyed the Mughal empire itself. No Babur was only an adventurer, nothing great about him beyond making use of political situation to get a toehold. Most Mughal empire building was done by Akbar. And np, there is no reason to consider 16 stars etc. to Mughal in India coz for a very long time they imported their ruling class from outside as against the natives. Really weird that turkey should use events in a distant land with such political significance today. Don't you have your own history to borrow for your seal?

Its generally because of Babur and his near descendants. Babur being the direct descendant from Timur himself, is automaticly considered to be part of Turkic history. Timur is a well known and admired figure in history, thus his descendants are also considered as such. They are both taken into high regard. Though i would agree with you, the Mughal empire didnt have as much impact on Turkic people's history and identity beside the early stages of the empire in comparison to lets say the Safavid empire, which shaped the identity of modern day Persians and Azeri's.
 
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Eventually we will remove all traces of Mughals,they are gone and so will their legacies too.

I would suggest that you should start doing that by destroying the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort. Have fun. :)
 
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