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Reality pokes holes in China's war plans on land, sea- Nikkei Asian Review


December 20, 2013 7:00 am JST
Reality pokes holes in China's war plans on land, sea
TETSURO KOSAKA, Nikkei senior staff writer
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A hastily erected partition hides the site of a fiery Tiananmen Square car crash blamed on Uighur extremists. © Kyodo
TOKYO -- China's tightened security in a turbulent western province and the southern deployment of its first aircraft carrier are intimately linked to the Communist Party's plans for surviving a military clash with the U.S.
At the same time, these moves reveal weaknesses in China's position.
China has stepped up policing in Xinjiang, an autonomous region home to much of the country's Uighur ethnic minority, following what authorities labeled a terrorist attack. A car carrying Uighurs slammed into a barrier in Beijing's Tiananmen Square in late October, bursting into flames within sight of the giant portrait of Mao Zedong. Since then, police have detained many Uighurs in Xinjiang and Beijing.
Deep in the heart of China
Party leaders see Xinjiang "as one refuge in an emergency," a person familiar with Chinese national security says. In the event of a shooting war with the U.S., top party officials would abandon Beijing for underground bunkers in Xinjiang, Tibet and Yunnan Province -- all of which lie far inland -- where they would seek to mount a resistance to the Americans, this person says, citing official plans.
All-out war between China and U.S. seems a remote possibility. The two powers have grown economically interdependent, something that never happened to the U.S. and the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Still, military planning, like chess, requires thinking many moves ahead.
China has been expanding its armed forces at a rapid clip. But taking into account both countries' overall military strength, including battle experience, the U.S. could be expected to gain the advantage in the early stages of a conflict. Situated relatively near the coast, Beijing, the Chinese government's nerve center, would present an inviting target for an American strike.
Inspired by Mao's inland retreat during the revolutionary era, today's Chinese leaders, too, believe holing up in the heartland could preclude an easy surrender. Uighur unrest thus threatens a potential safe haven.
The nuclear option
Like the clampdown on Xinjiang, China's recent dispatch of the Liaoning, its first aircraft carrier, for exercises in the South China Sea has a deeper significance.
Chinese military planners envision resorting to a trans-Arctic nuclear strike against the U.S. with ballistic missiles launched from submarines in the South China Sea. The USSR employed a similar strategy during the Cold War, turning the Sea of Okhotsk, north of Japan's Hokkaido, into a virtual Soviet lake. China apparently hopes to some day station a carrier fleet in the South China Sea and establish the air superiority needed to guard its precious ballistic missile submarines.
That would likely prove no easy task. U.S. strategy -- a glimpse of which was revealed by an unclassified summary of the Air-Sea Battle Concept in May -- could frustrate Chinese attempts at "area denial" in the South China Sea. Meanwhile, Uighur unrest continues. On both fronts, China appears short of where it wants to be.
China's eagerness to keep potential enemies at bay, as also apparent in its declaration of an air defense identification zone over the East China Sea, looks like overreach stemming from weakness.
 
China and CCP is the target, WOT has taken a back step and Regions around china have taken center stage.



Reality pokes holes in China's war plans on land, sea- Nikkei Asian Review


December 20, 2013 7:00 am JST
Reality pokes holes in China's war plans on land, sea
TETSURO KOSAKA, Nikkei senior staff writer
20131219_china1_article_main_image.jpg

A hastily erected partition hides the site of a fiery Tiananmen Square car crash blamed on Uighur extremists. © Kyodo
TOKYO -- China's tightened security in a turbulent western province and the southern deployment of its first aircraft carrier are intimately linked to the Communist Party's plans for surviving a military clash with the U.S.
At the same time, these moves reveal weaknesses in China's position.
China has stepped up policing in Xinjiang, an autonomous region home to much of the country's Uighur ethnic minority, following what authorities labeled a terrorist attack. A car carrying Uighurs slammed into a barrier in Beijing's Tiananmen Square in late October, bursting into flames within sight of the giant portrait of Mao Zedong. Since then, police have detained many Uighurs in Xinjiang and Beijing.
Deep in the heart of China
Party leaders see Xinjiang "as one refuge in an emergency," a person familiar with Chinese national security says. In the event of a shooting war with the U.S., top party officials would abandon Beijing for underground bunkers in Xinjiang, Tibet and Yunnan Province -- all of which lie far inland -- where they would seek to mount a resistance to the Americans, this person says, citing official plans.
All-out war between China and U.S. seems a remote possibility. The two powers have grown economically interdependent, something that never happened to the U.S. and the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Still, military planning, like chess, requires thinking many moves ahead.
China has been expanding its armed forces at a rapid clip. But taking into account both countries' overall military strength, including battle experience, the U.S. could be expected to gain the advantage in the early stages of a conflict. Situated relatively near the coast, Beijing, the Chinese government's nerve center, would present an inviting target for an American strike.
Inspired by Mao's inland retreat during the revolutionary era, today's Chinese leaders, too, believe holing up in the heartland could preclude an easy surrender. Uighur unrest thus threatens a potential safe haven.
The nuclear option
Like the clampdown on Xinjiang, China's recent dispatch of the Liaoning, its first aircraft carrier, for exercises in the South China Sea has a deeper significance.
Chinese military planners envision resorting to a trans-Arctic nuclear strike against the U.S. with ballistic missiles launched from submarines in the South China Sea. The USSR employed a similar strategy during the Cold War, turning the Sea of Okhotsk, north of Japan's Hokkaido, into a virtual Soviet lake. China apparently hopes to some day station a carrier fleet in the South China Sea and establish the air superiority needed to guard its precious ballistic missile submarines.
That would likely prove no easy task. U.S. strategy -- a glimpse of which was revealed by an unclassified summary of the Air-Sea Battle Concept in May -- could frustrate Chinese attempts at "area denial" in the South China Sea. Meanwhile, Uighur unrest continues. On both fronts, China appears short of where it wants to be.
China's eagerness to keep potential enemies at bay, as also apparent in its declaration of an air defense identification zone over the East China Sea, looks like overreach stemming from weakness.
 
Yeah, as if US leadership is going stay in white house during a nuclear war. :crazy: While I understand that India leadership is used to sitting inside Chinese rocket artillery range from Aksai Chin, it doesn't mean the rest of us are the same.

For countries that actually actively participated in the cold war, they generally have a system to preserve the leadership and coordination ability of the nation in the event of an all out nuclear war. Take US for example, as soon as DEFCON one is declared, the president and his staff would relocated to appropriate bunkers. The NORAD command under Cheyenne Mountain is one such a bunker. China also have a number of nuclear bunkers for similar reasons. They are primarily located in central China where the mountainous terrain allows better chance for the command structure as well as retaliation strike capacity to survive the initial engagement. I am not sure about Russia, but I am pretty they have similar procedures from USSR era.

Of course, such measurements can only be deployed by major nations with a large enough territory to employ such tactics. Britain and France, for example, have to rely on submarine based backup command/retaliate strike capacity for such purpose.
 
This should be posted in the chinese section or world affairs section, not in the indian one. There isn't a word about India.

With the some of the Indian's obsession about China, it appears to many Indians here make it India's business to care about China. I also read the article and find nothing about India.
 
Yeah, as if US leadership is going stay in white house during a nuclear war. :crazy: While I understand that India leadership is used to sitting inside Chinese rocket artillery range from Aksai Chin, it doesn't mean the rest of us are the same.

For countries that actually actively participated in the cold war, they generally have a system to preserve the leadership and coordination ability of the nation in the event of an all out nuclear war. Take US for example, as soon as DEFCON one is declared, the president and his staff would relocated to appropriate bunkers. The NORAD command under Cheyenne Mountain is one such a bunker. China also have a number of nuclear bunkers for similar reasons. They are primarily located in central China where the mountainous terrain allows better chance for the command structure as well as retaliation strike capacity to survive the initial engagement. I am not sure about Russia, but I am pretty they have similar procedures from USSR era.

Of course, such measurements can only be deployed by major nations with a large enough territory to employ such tactics. Britain and France, for example, have to rely on submarine based backup command/retaliate strike capacity for such purpose.

The logic of the first sentence of your post was not applied to the rest of it. As if the Indian leadership will be standing on top of red fort with a bull's eye painted on them during a nuclear war.

India too has loads of nuclear bunkers for the leadership, across the country. Not to mention that almost every major military facility is fully NBC proof. The people in the top command, both military and civilian will operate out of these facilities during war. The top commanders of the armed forces, the nuclear command authority, and the entire union cabinet will move to such facilities before war starts. The prime ministers office, the defence ministry and external affairs ministry all have such facilities, and on top of that, several more bunkers have been built within a 400 km radius of new delhi in rajathan, UP and MP so that the govt and military can continue to function in any eventuality. Many of our military command and control centers are also NBC proof, including the new VLF facility for nuclear submarines. It's not just the US and China that have figured out these measures, anyy country that is willing to face a nuclear threat takes these measures. Oh and BTW, India is also a pretty big country, geographically.

India to build two nuclear-proof bunkers to shield top leaders: report
India to build nuclear bunkers to shield cabinet
 
The logic of the first sentence of your post was not applied to the rest of it. As if the Indian leadership will be standing on top of red fort with a bull's eye painted on them during a nuclear war.

India too has loads of nuclear bunkers for the leadership, across the country. Not to mention that almost every major military facility is fully NBC proof. The people in the top command, both military and civilian will operate out of these facilities during war. The top commanders of the armed forces, the nuclear command authority, and the entire union cabinet will move to such facilities before war starts. The prime ministers office, the defence ministry and external affairs ministry all have such facilities, and on top of that, several more bunkers have been built within a 400 km radius of new delhi in rajathan, UP and MP so that the govt and military can continue to function in any eventuality. Many of our military command and control centers are also NBC proof, including the new VLF facility for nuclear submarines. It's not just the US and China that have figured out these measures, anyy country that is willing to face a nuclear threat takes these measures. Oh and BTW, India is also a pretty big country, geographically.

India to build two nuclear-proof bunkers to shield top leaders: report
India to build nuclear bunkers to shield cabinet

Yeah, my whole point is, this so called "hole" by the article is none-sense at all.
 
This article wrote by a Japanese, whoever think Japanese will have anything good to say about China. No need to read into what the Japanese journalist aim with this article, China flex her muscle to hide their weakness in internal trouble and malcontent by the population and the minority in China.
 
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