Ramifications of the damage done by Imran Khan statement in Iran

[BHarwana]

With your eyes open, tell me which country's leader acknowledges the presence of terrorism in his country while on foreign soil? Giving statements provides ammunition to our enemies, actions further our interests. But when your PM has a loose mouth syndrome, you can only do a face palm.

Nice so why he did that care to explain? Nothing in this world is done without reason. Imran Khan always follows official policy and I cannot find an answer to the question why he did that?

I think he showed support to Iran to give a blow to India and deliver a message that India is our focus?

 

[Dubious]

Being briefed and actually onboarding the briefing are two very different things.

Being briefed and following while only a segment crying foul just for the sake of political difference is actually a problem!

Far worse than terrorism or india

By the way, how often do you see Ms. Khar publicly speaking out on an issue like this? It is serious, and her principles don't allow her to remain silent.

She is neither my leader nor has my trust....she isn't even a standard to be "quoting"

 

[That Guy]

There are gonna be no implications, except those that Pakistanis themselves make.

This doom and gloom, and self hatred is more dangerous for Pakistan than what IK could ever say.

Every little thing he says and does, every hater has to come out and claim how he's destroying Pakistan.

Seriously, stop this nonsense.

 

[CriticalThought]

1) PMIK speeches are open speeches.
2) when the self proclaimed enlightened themselves don't show loyalty to the land and openly malign an elected leader who is trying his best to fix decades worth of bs and offer an olive branch to stabilise one side of the border to ease our defence....then I think the people aren't enlightened nor far sighted

He is only human, and a politician. He threw the bones of 'anti-corruption' and 'fixing problems' and people in their haste started following him. Has anyone noticed Big Tobacco stakeholders amongst his associates? Does anyone notice the sudden change of cabinet and the selection of pro-American elements?

 

[H!TchHiker]

Problem is opposition parties will used it for political leverage like PTI on Nawaz statements...So nothing new here..Standard procedure by political parties for there benefits...

 

[Enigma SIG]

Pakistanio ko bi sukoon nai. The military wants to ease itself on the western border so it can go hard on the eastern front with all the bickering Modi is doing recently. Don't know why we want to stir up all our borders and remain in perpetual war.

 

[CriticalThought]

Nice so why he did that care to explain? Nothing in this world is done without reason. Imran Khan always follows official policy and I cannot find an answer to the question why he did that?

I think he showed support to Iran to give a blow to India and deliver a message that India is our focus?

The whys, you should ask from your great leader. Oh wait, you have no access to Mr. Great Leader. He doesn't answer your questions, has removed himself from you and your reach.

Being briefed and following while only a segment crying foul just for the sake of political difference is actually a problem!

Far worse than terrorism or india


She is neither my leader nor has my trust....she isn't even a standard to be "quoting"

In short, a blind follower. You cannot make the blind see, nor make the deaf hear.

 

[POPEYE-Sailor]

Guys take it easy, This visit is the start for new era of relationship. we admitted that some ethic group who was involved targeting iran border force and pilgrimage in past. Now the situation is this iranian giving safe house to indian for counter Pakistani forces. Pakistan must has to stop iran to giving safe houses to our enemy to achieve this IK start with this we accept this thing happen in past but we giving you our word and commitment it will never happen in future and we will take action if some group try to destroy our relation and we want same policy from your side as well.

 

[Mentee]

Okay so I just woke up, can somebody please post IK's statement here?



yaar if that is the case then Iranis could've killed shirazi long ago who himself is living inside Iran and is the biggest opponent of khomeini and khamenei system.

see it like this, 2 types of shias living inside sub-continent, type 1 is known as usooli and type 2 is known as akhbari. usoolis are those who believe in taqlid (if you are brelvi then surely you know what taqlid means) and akhbaris are those who reject taqlid in current alive big figures of shia islam like khamenei, sistani, shirazi etc.

now - punjabi shias and shias in central sindh are mostly akhbaris who reject taqlid system - in other words they are against khamenei, sistani, shirazi etc system of shia islam - they believe, a shia can only be in taqlid of a Masoom (infallible) and since Masoom is not around so taqlid of a fallible is not acceptable and these ppl are mostly uneducated in pakistan - in fact they themselves are in taqlid of chaudhries of their pinds.

the usooli types living in sub-continent are mostly in taqlid of ayatollah sistani not khamenei - and sistani is an Iraqi arab. and even those usoolis who follow khamenei or his other likes consider them as nayebs (vice) of Masoom (Infallible) but not infallibles. usoolis follow them so they can get easy education about jurisprudence from these scholars such as sistani, khamenei, shirazi etc and know about the halal and harams in shia islam. so i dont see where irani backed hit squads come from.

shiaism has it own version which comes from the same source sir g and that is Towheed, Adl, Nabuwat, Imamat and Qayamat and whoever believes in these 5 pillars is a shia muslim, regardless if he/she is an usooli or akhbari - and whoever rejects imamat and believes in other 4 pillars is considered a muslim in shia school - there is no irani or iraqi or indian or pakistani version of shiaism.

as a shia, let me assure you sir g, we shias have some many differences within ourselves but our source is same. we share the same books, we share the same jurisprudence and we all believe in Imamat and Imamat holds us together.

for example there are 4 jurisprudences within sunni islam but all of em call themselves sunnis because sunnis share the same source.

Now we can have clashes with each other or kill each other or get killed by our kin (i am talking about ourselves aka shias) but that is not because of some other country's version of shiaism that you're talking about. because as I said before - there is not any.

Iam well aware of the things you mentioned but do take another fact into account that Islamic royalty through out history has been busy concocting "Hadeeth" to tie their rule and imperial ambitions with that of the survival of islam and this I was pointing out.

Iran and Afghan want a massacre of my people whom they consider subhumans to call the shots unchallenged. The moment they are done with Pakistan, they will turn on each other. Welcome to the world of empires meray jamhoori bhai

Being an asshole has taken who and where before? Who remembers an asshole of a leader or people?
Yet, all good "men" are known and celebrated.

Hello the coffers of the state are empty, who wants a short lived feel good fame for nothing when history channel and all international media is in the pocket of West?

 

[BHarwana]

The whys, you should ask from your great leader. Oh wait, you have no access to Mr. Great Leader. He doesn't answer your questions, has removed himself from you and your reach.

Was he ever in my reach? Or is he only my leader? A whole nation voted for him.

Oh I understand what is the problem here. Some people want to bring this statement on par with the Mumbai attack statement of Nawaz Sharif but that cannot be done because we were never involved in Mumbai attacks and much of the evidence of that has been given plus Iran is not India something you need to understand.

 

[Dubious]

He is only human, and a politician. He threw the bones of 'anti-corruption' and 'fixing problems' and people in their haste started following him. Has anyone noticed Big Tobacco stakeholders amongst his associates? Does anyone notice the sudden change of cabinet and the selection of pro-American elements?

Unlike you we don't hasten to judge based on one wrong.

We are a nation that tolerated decade of Bhutto bs and decade of Nawaz bs...not to mention 3 decades in Punjab. ..


We give them ample time to work ....because not everyhing one would do would unfold as you please after all we are waiting for shabaz to change his name coz he couldn't fix electricity and said to change his name if he failed, right?

The whys, you should ask from your great leader. Oh wait, you have no access to Mr. Great Leader. He doesn't answer your questions, has removed himself from you and your reach.



In short, a blind follower. You cannot make the blind see, nor make the deaf hear.

Patience shouldn't be mistaken for blindness...I guess you cant notice the difference

 

[Verve]

It's so silly ... Army publicly announced Irani soldiers rescue in Pakistan and the return. But IK's statement is being played as endorsement of sorts.

Did anyone question the Army for making the rescue all public? Was not that a public admission in itself???

WTF!

 

[Mentee]

There are gonna be no implications, except those that Pakistanis themselves make.

This doom and gloom, and self hatred is more dangerous for Pakistan than what IK could ever say.

Every little thing he says and does, every hater has to come out and claim how he's destroying Pakistan.

Seriously, stop this nonsense.

Iam a die hard fan of ik always supported him no matter how ridiculous it may get . but this was outrageous

 

[graphican]

I disagree with negative comments about IK or his statements.

First he hasn't said anything which would discredit Pakistan on any account, second he spoke tough and with his heart out even when it was uncomfortable for the host. IK started hard but concluded on with soft and positive vibes that everybody agrees to and accepts.

From Pakistan's standpoint, its a win if Iran stops giving India any space from its territory against Pakistan. Rest of
"ifs", "buts", "commas" and "semicolons" of his speech will remain only as important as commas and semicolons can ever be.

 

[CriticalThought]

Unlike you we don't hasten to judge based on one wrong.

We are a nation that tolerated decade of Bhutto bs and decade of Nawaz bs...not to mention 3 decades in Punjab. ..


We give them ample time to work ....because not everyhing one would do would unfold as you please after all we are waiting for shabaz to change his name coz he couldn't fix electricity and said to change his name if he failed, right?


Patience shouldn't be mistaken for blindness...I guess you cant notice the difference

Hey I'm not calling for a march upon Islamabad. I am calling for pointing out mistakes and holding him accountable. This is the hallmark of an enlightened people, and has nothing to do with patience. He has committed a gaffe, if the nation doesn't let him know its feeling, he will commit another one. The Urdu term 'Aib joey' (encouraging defects/deficiencies) applies to so called friends who ignore fatal flaws in character, and actually encourage bad behavior. Don't be one of those.