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Rafale weaponry prompts China, Pak to alter defence posture
By Shishir Gupta, Hindustan Times, New Delhi
UPDATED ON APR 23, 2021 06:41 AM IST


With the Indian Air Force’s (IAF) Rafale fighter successfully test-firing the 60km range Hammer air-to-ground modular weapon in March, the air defence posture of both China and Pakistan has changed in the wake of the advent of the multi-role fighter in South Asia, according to people familiar with the matter.


The Hammer weapon secured a bunker-busting vertical hit on its target at the testing location. According to top South Block officials, with the IAF’s first Rafale squadron completed with 18 fighters in Ambala, the Chinese have moved their so-called fifth generation fighter J-20 ahead in the Tibet and Xinjiang airbases. The Pakistanis have also moved their Chinese import JF-17 fighter in key forward bases to tackle the clear and present threat of the Rafale fighter. Although the Chinese say the J-20 is the third operational fifth-generation fighter after the US F-22 and F-35, genuine fifth-generation fighters developed by the Americans do not have a canard that further reduces the cross-section of the plane, the officials said. The Chinese J-20 has the same canard as the Rafale, which the IAF calls a 4.5-generation fighter.

The Chinese and Pakistani air posture has also undergone a change with IAF’s induction of the Rafale as the latter carries the Meteor air-to-air missile, whose range is way beyond any missile the other two forces have in their arsenal. The Hammer and Scalp air-launched cruise missile with a range of over 500km ensures that the adversary will have no early warning as the two weapons can be launched from within Indian territory and beyond visual range.

While India could only send three out of five readied fighters from the Merignac Bordeaux airbase in France on Wednesday due to unforeseen reasons, seven more fighters have been lined up for delivery to IAF next month. Although the seven fighters may come in batches of three and four, six of them will be flown to the Hashimara airbase in West Bengal via Ambala. The re-pavement and extension of the main runway at Hashimara, which sits astride the Siliguri corridor, is expected to be completed by this month-end. The Haishmara upgrade also includes blast pens and surface-to-air missile batteries to protect the vital base.

 
One month old but posting it as no one posted it here before

Rafale weaponry prompts China, Pak to alter defence posture
By Shishir Gupta, Hindustan Times, New Delhi
UPDATED ON APR 23, 2021 06:41 AM IST


With the Indian Air Force’s (IAF) Rafale fighter successfully test-firing the 60km range Hammer air-to-ground modular weapon in March, the air defence posture of both China and Pakistan has changed in the wake of the advent of the multi-role fighter in South Asia, according to people familiar with the matter.


The Hammer weapon secured a bunker-busting vertical hit on its target at the testing location. According to top South Block officials, with the IAF’s first Rafale squadron completed with 18 fighters in Ambala, the Chinese have moved their so-called fifth generation fighter J-20 ahead in the Tibet and Xinjiang airbases. The Pakistanis have also moved their Chinese import JF-17 fighter in key forward bases to tackle the clear and present threat of the Rafale fighter. Although the Chinese say the J-20 is the third operational fifth-generation fighter after the US F-22 and F-35, genuine fifth-generation fighters developed by the Americans do not have a canard that further reduces the cross-section of the plane, the officials said. The Chinese J-20 has the same canard as the Rafale, which the IAF calls a 4.5-generation fighter.

The Chinese and Pakistani air posture has also undergone a change with IAF’s induction of the Rafale as the latter carries the Meteor air-to-air missile, whose range is way beyond any missile the other two forces have in their arsenal. The Hammer and Scalp air-launched cruise missile with a range of over 500km ensures that the adversary will have no early warning as the two weapons can be launched from within Indian territory and beyond visual range.

While India could only send three out of five readied fighters from the Merignac Bordeaux airbase in France on Wednesday due to unforeseen reasons, seven more fighters have been lined up for delivery to IAF next month. Although the seven fighters may come in batches of three and four, six of them will be flown to the Hashimara airbase in West Bengal via Ambala. The re-pavement and extension of the main runway at Hashimara, which sits astride the Siliguri corridor, is expected to be completed by this month-end. The Haishmara upgrade also includes blast pens and surface-to-air missile batteries to protect the vital base.

Hindustan Times chest thumping
 
I can confirm, Pakistan and China are both very scared. I had a call from Gen Bajwa and he said that "at the rate India is buying planes, we will not be able to supply them with tea when we eventually shoot them down" - and this was his biggest concern.
 
One month old but posting it as no one posted it here before

Rafale weaponry prompts China, Pak to alter defence posture
By Shishir Gupta, Hindustan Times, New Delhi
UPDATED ON APR 23, 2021 06:41 AM IST


With the Indian Air Force’s (IAF) Rafale fighter successfully test-firing the 60km range Hammer air-to-ground modular weapon in March, the air defence posture of both China and Pakistan has changed in the wake of the advent of the multi-role fighter in South Asia, according to people familiar with the matter.


The Hammer weapon secured a bunker-busting vertical hit on its target at the testing location. According to top South Block officials, with the IAF’s first Rafale squadron completed with 18 fighters in Ambala, the Chinese have moved their so-called fifth generation fighter J-20 ahead in the Tibet and Xinjiang airbases. The Pakistanis have also moved their Chinese import JF-17 fighter in key forward bases to tackle the clear and present threat of the Rafale fighter. Although the Chinese say the J-20 is the third operational fifth-generation fighter after the US F-22 and F-35, genuine fifth-generation fighters developed by the Americans do not have a canard that further reduces the cross-section of the plane, the officials said. The Chinese J-20 has the same canard as the Rafale, which the IAF calls a 4.5-generation fighter.

The Chinese and Pakistani air posture has also undergone a change with IAF’s induction of the Rafale as the latter carries the Meteor air-to-air missile, whose range is way beyond any missile the other two forces have in their arsenal. The Hammer and Scalp air-launched cruise missile with a range of over 500km ensures that the adversary will have no early warning as the two weapons can be launched from within Indian territory and beyond visual range.

While India could only send three out of five readied fighters from the Merignac Bordeaux airbase in France on Wednesday due to unforeseen reasons, seven more fighters have been lined up for delivery to IAF next month. Although the seven fighters may come in batches of three and four, six of them will be flown to the Hashimara airbase in West Bengal via Ambala. The re-pavement and extension of the main runway at Hashimara, which sits astride the Siliguri corridor, is expected to be completed by this month-end. The Haishmara upgrade also includes blast pens and surface-to-air missile batteries to protect the vital base.



TLDR

(According to these guys);

1: Real 5th gen fighters like F 35 and F 22 don’t have canards. Since J20 has them, then J 20 must not be a true 5th gen fighter.

2: JF -17 is Chinese
(I love it when ever I read this, makes me all warm and fuzzy to know how hard this pill is for the Indians to swallow)

3: Amazing India

These guys are a special group of geniuses. Lol.

Hey OP, please feel free to post from a more credible sources next time. Thanks
 
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These Sanghi's were chest thumping about how superior thier Sukhoi 30 MKIs were until thier myth were blown to pieces by JF17 Thunder in the last skirmish. So even with Indian Rafales it won't concern China and Pakistan one bit.
 
I can confirm, Pakistan and China are both very scared. I had a call from Gen Bajwa and he said that "at the rate India is buying planes, we will not be able to supply them with tea when we eventually shoot them down" - and this was his biggest concern.

wat bout sugar mafia, not enuff sugar for tea.
 
what is the highest altitude a Meteor can go?

AMRAM can go up to 85k feets
JF 17 can go up to 55k feets

The only known Meteor high altitude test was at 42.6k feets

Anybody with some basic understanding of propulsion knows that airbreathing engines don't provide thrust at high altitudes. Meteor can go horizontally 150km at sea level but for high altitude, they didn't share the data.
 
The Pakistanis have also moved their Chinese import JF-17 fighter
Who do you think is going to read this garbage after the above line? I mean seriously you Indians cant digest the fact that JF-17 is not imported from China, its manufactured in Pakistan at Kamra. The author could simply have said Pakistanis moved their JF-17 fighter in key forward areas. Whether its imported or not does not affect its capabilities nor does MKI dodger hiding from a SD-10 fired from a JF-17 would care to know if its imported or not.
 
.....but but why aren't you scared of our mighty Ra phal? What would it take for us to scare you moslay into submission, like we did indian muslims?


When you have got bigger heart and brain then us and if you can grow bigger dick then us which is all beyond the realm of the possibility of Bollywood fed nation called India. Nations which are scared of there own shadows and fear others will disappear from the face of the earth. Even we lost east wing we are still challenging and fingering India which is multiple times bigger then us that goes to show what sort of brave mothers have raised us. India don't stand a chance to subdue us even they come back at us with their new found lovers like QUAD our heads don't bow in front of anyone other then Allah.
Your well fed MK30 ran off from your hour of need with tail between its legs what makes you think Rafale French woman on diet for us will be any different. Boy go down and stay down that's India is to us.
 
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When you have got bigger heart and brain then us and if you can grow bigger dick then us which is all beyond the realm of the possibility of Bollywood fed nation called India. Nations which are scared of there own shadows and fear others will disappear from the face of the earth. Even we lost east wing we are still challenging and fingering India which is multiple times bigger then us that goes to show what sort of brave mothers have raised us. India don't stand a chance to subdue us even they come back at us with their new found lovers like QUAD our heads don't bow in front of anyone other then Allah.
Your well fed MK30 ran off from your hour of need with tail between its legs what makes you think Rafale French woman on diet for us will be any different. Boy go down and stay down that's India is to us.
Bro. We are on the same side here. You didn't get my sarcasm.
 

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