Qandeel Baloch is dead

[The Sandman]

Pakistan has some seriously messed up people in it.

Harsh but true

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

It sure has nothing to do with religion. It is the cave mentality of men to think women as honor. Women are not honor, they are people. This is a curse in India too.

I think we and media are also somehow responsible for this murder because so much hate and poison was spread against her on social networking sites which at the end got shifted in the mind of her brother and he committed more serious crime of killing in reaction ..yes dumb attention seeking approach of qandeel for cheap publicity was not ok but our obsession to her stupid videos and non stop cursing her could not be justified either and read comments where people were wishing death to her and was calling her embarrassment for family and country so such thoughts made her brother react this way

 

[tigerrock ali]

The most viewed post is about qandeel bloach. I request to admin and moderators to always add a scandalous name to get more views on all the posts. This topic is grabbing way too much attention just because it was about qandeel bloach.
PLEASE KILL ME.

 

[HAIDER]

"I never accepted him as my husband in my heart or mind," says Qandeel of her husband.

and now or was now.....

 

[John Reese]

"I never accepted him as my husband in my heart or mind," says Qandeel of her husband.

and now or was now.....

Yes married to guy at age 17

Had kid but she want different path in her life she want to study or make career

We see in our society male's left there females and family for different things or some for different women

No one object's then Hippocrates

 

[Thorough Pro]

and you didn't find such sick behaviours anywhere else in the world? You need to do your homework before you come out with such sweeping and wrong statements

I'm shocked to we allow backward cave dwellers like you into our country!

Honest Question Please
is there something inherently wrong with pakistanis, i've experienced many cultures, indian people can be cowardly by nature yet they have not gone to the extent of butchering each other the way many people in Pakistan have. even among tribes in africa no one has ever gone to the level of animal like butchery against there own family, there have been cases where a mother in pakistani cuts the throat of her child because she fell in love, a mother burns her daughter after she fell in love, you have cases where a school teacher is burnt alive because she turned down a marrage proposal from her work collegue, you have a father who shot dead her daughter and her lover when they both came home for the fathers blessing, you have family who have killed there own daughters because a video was uploaded on to the web of them dancing in the rain(they were fully dressed). You have cases where a mother and her kids are killed in cold blood by there own maternal family because she married the wrong guy? i can go on and on most the cases i've described happened in the last 2 months. Pakistan culture is downright backwards. no one is willing to take a stand, you have fake apostles like imran khan who people rally around yet he cant do a damn thing about this.

 

[sid426]

"I never accepted him as my husband in my heart or mind," says Qandeel of her husband.

and now or was now.....

Rest in Peace Qandeel. The media killed you, the hypocrisy killed you, the fake honour killed you, the patriarchal society killed you. Did you kill anyone to deserve this? Hell No. Did you physically harm anybody to deserve this? Hell No. You chose to live your life the way you wanted.That's the biggest mistake you made. How could you choose independence from the societal bonds? Didn't you knew the society would never accept for this? Didn't you knew that the patriarchy would call you names for being an independent women? No one would speak for you now.

People get inspired from the likes of Malala but you were a bigger inspiration than a sponsored and well co-ordinated PR effort. Salute to you for you chose to be what you are.

 

[Thorough Pro]

@ mods please check this guy, no one in interested in discussing their laws, atleast not on this

It Factually Wrong Sati System was Abolished by British Law by almost 165 years Ago
Its was never Cultural part it was Started Around 12 AD by rajputs as jauhar by Rajput Woman From preserving its dignity From Invaders Trend was flowed by Low caste As duty Read reference below

• Michaels, Axel (2004). Hinduism: Past and Present. Princeton University Press. p. 149. ISBN 9780691089539.

https://books.google.co.in/books?id=PD-flQMc1ocC&pg=PA149&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

Sati (Prevention) Act, 1987 is law enacted by Government of Rajasthan in 1987. It became an Act of the Parliament of India with the enactment of The Commission of Sati (Prevention) Act, 1987 in 1988. The Act seeks to prevent Sati practice or the voluntary or forced burning or burying alive of widows, and to prohibit glorification of this action through the observance of any ceremony, the participation in any procession, the creation of a financial trust, the construction of a temple, or any actions to commemorate or honor the memory of a widow who committed sati. It further criminalised any type of aiding, abetting, and glorifying of sati.

Sati was first banned under Bengal Sati Regulation, 1829.

Dalits itself More of Political term than a constitutional Reference As for crime against women concerned it Did not bound to caste,creed or gender or Nationality


Constitutional Act ACT No. 33 of 1989

An Act to prevent the commission of offences of atrocities against the members of the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes, to provide for Special Courts for the trial of such offences and for the relief and rehabilitation of the victims of such offences and for matters connected therewith or incidental thereto.

2. Definitions---

(I) In this Act, unless the context otherwise requires,--

(a) “Atrocity” means an offence punishable under section 3;

(b) “Code” means the Code of Criminal Procedure, 1973 (2 of 1974);

1.(c) “Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes” shall have the meaning assigned to them respectively under clause

(24) and clause (25) of article 366 of the Constitution;

(d) “Special Court” means a Court of Session specified as a Special Court in section 14;

(e)“Special Public Prosecutor” means a Public Prosecutor specified as a Special Public Prosecutor or an advocate referred to in section 15;

(f) Words and expressions used but not defined in this Act and defined in the Code or the Indian Penal Code (45 of 1860) shall have the meanings assigned to them respectively in the Code, or as the case may be, in the Indian Penal Code.

2.Any reference in this Act to any enactment or any provision thereof shall, in relation to an area in which such enactment or such provision is not in force, be construed as a reference to the corresponding law, if any, if force in that area.

CHAPTER-II

OFFENCE OF ATROCITIES

1.2.Punishments for offence of atrocities, ---

Whoever, not being a member of a Scheduled Castes or a Scheduled Tribes, ---

(i) Forces a member of a Scheduled Castes or a Scheduled Tribes to drink or eat any inedible or obnoxious substance;

(ii)Acts with intent to cause injury, insult or annoyance to any member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe by dumping excreta, waste matter, carcasses or any other obnoxious substance in his premies or neighbourholld;

(iii)Forcibly removes clothes from the person of a member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe or parades him naked or with painted face or body or commits any similar act which is derogatory to human dignity; (iv) Wrongfully occupies or cultivates any land owned by, or allotted to, or notified by any competent authority to be allotted to, a member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe or gets the land allotted to him transferred;

(v)Wrongfully dispossesses a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe from his land or premises or interferes with the enjoyment of his right over any land, premises or water;

(vi) Compels or entices a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe to do ‘begar’ or other similar forms of forced or bonded labour other than compulsory service for public purposes imposed by Government;

(vii) Forces or intimidates a member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe not to vote or to vote to a particular candidate or to vote in a manner other than that provided by law; (viii)Institutes false, malicious or vexations suit or criminal or other legal proceedings against a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe;

(ix) Gives, any false or frivolous information to any public servant and thereby causes such public servant to use his lawful power to the injury or annoyance of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe;

(x) Intentionally insuits or intimidates with intent to humiliate a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe in any place within public view;

(xi)Assaults or uses forces to any woman belonging to a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe with intent to dishonor or outrage her modesty;
(xii)Being in a position to dominate the will of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe and uses that position to exploit the sexually to which she would not have otherwise agreed;

(xiii) Corrupts or fouls the water of any spring, reservoir or any other source ordinarily used by members of the Scheduled Castes or the Scheduled Tribes so as to render it less fit for the purpose for which it is ordinarily used;

(xiv) Denies a member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe any customary right of passage to a place of public resort or obstructs such member so as to prevent him from using or having access to a place of public resort to which other members of public or any section thereof have a right to use or access to;

(xv) Forces or causes a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe to leave his house, village or other place of residence, shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term which shall not be less than six months but which may extent to five years and with fine.

(2) Whoever, not being a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe: -

(i) Gives or fabricates false evidence intending thereby to cause, or knowing it to be likely that he will thereby cause, any member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe to be convicted of an offence which is capital by law thw for the time being in force shall be punished with imprisonment for life and with fine; and if an innocent member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe be convicted and executed in consequence of such false or fabricated evidence, the person who gives or fabricates such false evidence, shall be punished with death;

(ii) Gives or fabricates false evidence intending thereby to cause, or knowing it to be likely that he will thereby cause, any member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe to be convicted of an offence which is not capital but punishable with imprisonment for a term of seven years or onwards, shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term which shall not be less than six months but which may extend to seven years or upwards and with fine;

(iii) Commits mischief by fire or any explosive substance intending to cause or knowing it to be likely that he will thereby cause damage to any property belonging to a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe, shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term which shall not be less than six months but which may extend to seven years and with fine;

(iv) Commits mischief by fire or any explosive substance intending to cause or knowing it to be likely that he will thereby cause destruction of any building which is ordinarily used a place of worship or as a place for human dwelling or as a place for custody of the property by a member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe, shall be punishable with imprisonment for life and with fine;

(v) Commits any offence under the Indian Penal Code (45 of 1860) punishable with imprisonment for a term of ten years or more against a person of property on the ground that such person is a member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe or such property belongs to such member, shall be punishable with imprisonment for life and with fine;

(vi) Knowingly or having reason to believe that on offence has been committed under this Chapter, causes any evidence of the commission of that offence to disappear with the intention of screening the offender from legal punishment, or with that intention gives any information respecting the offence which he knows or believes to be false, shall be punishable with the punishment provided for that offence; or

(vii) Being a public servant, commits any offence under this section, shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term which shall not be less than one year but which may extent to the punishment provided that offence.

4. Punishment for neglect of duties: - Whoever, being a public servant but not being a member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe, willfully neglect his duties required to be performed by him under this Act, shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term which shall not be less than six months but which may extend to one year.

5. Enhanced punishment for subsequent conviction:- Whoever, having already been convicted an offence under this Chapter is convicted for the second offence or any offence subsequent to the second offence, shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term which shall not be less than one year but which may extend to the punishment provided for that offence.

6. Application for certain provisions of the Indian Penal Code:- Subject to the other provisions of this Act, the provisions of section 34, Chapter-III, Chapter-IV, Chapter-V, Chapter-VA, section 149 and Chapter XXVIII of the Indian Penal Code (45 of 1860), shall, so far as may be, apply for the purposes of this Act as they apply for the purposes of the Indian Penal Code.

7. Forfeiture of property of certain persons...---(i) where a person has been convicted of any offence punishable under this Chapter, the Special Court may, in addition to awarding any punishment, by order in writing, declare that any property, movable or immovable or both, belonging to the person, which has been used for the commission of that offence, shall stand forfeited to Government.

(ii) Where any person is accused of any offence under this Chapter, it shall be open to the Special Court trying him to pass an order that all or any of the properties, movable or immovable or both, belonging to him, shallk, during the period of such trial, be attached, and where such trial ends in conviction, the property so attached shall be liable to forfeiture to the extent it is required for the purpose of realization of any fine imposed this Chapter.

8. Presumption as to offences:-

In a prosecution for an offence under this Chapter, if it is proved that----------

(a) the accused rendered any financial assistance to a person accused of, or reasonable suspected of committing, an offence under this Chapter, the Special Court shall presume, unless the contrary is provided, that such person had abetted the offence;

(b) a group of persons committed an offence under this Chapter and if it is proved that the offence committed was a sequal to any existing dispute regarding land or any other matter, it shall be presumed that the offence was committed in furtherance of the common intention or in prosecution of the common object.

9. Conferment of powers--- (i) Notwithstanding anything contained in the Code or in any other provision of this Act, the State Government may, if it considers it necessary or expedient so to do:-------

(a) for the prevention of and for coping with any offence under this Act, or

(b) for any case or class or group of cases under this Act.,

in any district or part thereof, confer, by notification in the Official Gazette, on any officer of the State Government, the powers exercisable by a police officer under the Code in such district or part thereof, as the case may be,

http://indianexpress.com/tag/sc-st-act/

http://www.delhi.gov.in/wps/wcm/con...the+scheduled+castes+and+the+scheduled+tribes

 

[LeGenD]

So Pakistani extremists first viewed the content and then decided she was brining shame to her family?

How else would they know?

Common sense, please.

 

[Jf Thunder]

Ahh . I guess you were looking for this.


How the Prophet (S.A.W) Raised His Daughters

All historians agree that the Prophet (S.A.W) , had four daughters, and they all witnessed the advent of Islam, became Muslims and joined the journey of Hijrah (emigration) to Madeenah. His daughters were: Faatimah, may Allah be pleased with her, who was born five years before the Prophet (S.A.W) , became a prophet and was given the mission of prophethood and the message of Islam; Zaynab, may Allah be pleased with her, who was married to Al-‘Aas ibn Ar-Rabee’, may Allah be pleased with him; and Ruqayyah and Umm Kulthoom, may Allah be pleased with them both, who were married to ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan, may Allah be pleased with him, as ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan married Umm Kulthoom after the death of Ruqayyah, may Allah be pleased with the three of them.

Only Allah The Almighty knows the wisdom behind the fact that the Prophet (S.A.W), had four daughters; however, some scholars maintain that this could have been due to the following reason:

• Before Islam, the Arabs considered having a daughter to be a dishonor and believed that daughters deserved to be buried alive. Allah The Almighty Says (what means): {And when one of them is informed of [the birth of] a female, his face becomes dark, and he suppresses grief. He hides himself from the people because of the ill of which he has been informed. Should he keep it in humiliation or bury it in the ground? Unquestionably, evil is what they decide.}[Quran 16:58] It was mentioned in the interpretation of this verse that the father suppressed his grief over the fact that a daughter was born to him. “Keep it in humiliation” refers to the fact that fathers who did not bury their daughters alive, humiliated them, did not entitle them to receive inheritance, did not care for them, and favored their sons over them. Allah The Almighty willed that the Prophet (S.A.W), would be the father of daughters in order for him to be a role model for all believers and to teach them the rights and status of women that were granted by Islam. It was a turning point in the life of women that the Prophet (S.A.W), had daughters. ‘Umar ibn Al-Khattaab, may Allah be pleased with him, said, “By Allah, in Jaahiliyyah [pre-Islamic ignorance] we did not use to care the least about women until Allah revealed His verses regarding them and granted them certain rights.”
• Another reason was to protect the Prophet (S.A.W), against any possible false accusation that he relied on the support of his sons, as relying on one’s sons was the custom of the Arabs at that time. The religion that was revealed to the Prophet (S.A.W), spread on earth as it is the truth - the only truth. The truth is always strong enough to prevail. In Jaahiliyyah, the Arabs would wish to have sons only because they would support them and help them to protect their possessions, dignity and status. They would hate having daughters because they feared their shame and humiliation, until the Prophet (S.A.W), was sent with the religion of Islam that is the final religion and the one that Allah The Almighty approves for His slaves. Allah The Almighty Says (what means):

• {And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.}[Quran 3:85]
• {This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion.} [Quran 5:3]

Islam preserved the rights of daughters and granted them their due status. Islam promises those who look after their daughters and treat them well an abundant reward. Moreover, Islam made bringing daughters up and supporting them one of the ways of pleasing Allah The Almighty and entering His Paradise. It was narrated on the authority of Anas ibn Maalik, may Allah be pleased with him, that the Prophet (S.A.W), said: “The one who supports two girls until they grow up, he and I will be on the Day of Judgment like this [and he put two of his fingers together].” In this Hadeeth, the Prophet (S.A.W), put his fingers together in order to express his closeness in Paradise to the person who brings up two girls. ‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with her, narrated,

A woman along with her two daughters once came to me asking [for some alms], but she found nothing with me except a date which I gave to her. She [took it and] divided it between her two daughters and did not eat anything herself. Then, she got up and went away. The Prophet (S.A.W) then came in and I told him about this story. He said:“Whoever is put to trial by having daughters and treats them kindly [with benevolence], then these daughters will be a shield for him from the Hellfire.” [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]

No bounty or reward is greater than this.
In spite of the great reward that is promised to those who support their daughters and treat them well, some people feel no joy when a daughter is born to them and instead display their distress and sadness! This kind of reaction is an ignorant one and shows dissatisfaction with the decree of Allah The Almighty. Some parents are negligent regarding educating and advising their daughters and they do not care for them properly. If man comprehended the religion of Allah The Almighty, knew his duties, knew what is lawful, and what is unlawful, and followed the example of the Prophet(S.A.W), in every aspect of his life, he would live in comfort and happiness. He would also know how to worship Allah The Almighty, how to deal with his fellow Muslims, family, and wife, and how to bring up his children. This is because Islam guides us to all that is good and warns us against all that is evil.

How the Prophet (S.A.W), Raised His Daughters as Children

The Prophet (S.A.W), was delighted when his daughters were born. He felt joy when his daughter Faatimah, may Allah be pleased with her, was born and thought of her as being tremendous good fortune. He named her Faatimah and nicknamed her Az-Zahraa’. She was given the epithet of “Umm Abeeha” (the mother of her own father).

Here, the Prophet (S.A.W), taught us a great lesson. He taught us that the one who is granted daughters should be happy and praise Allah The Almighty for the offspring that He has granted him. The parent has to intend to raise them well and to marry them off to pious, competent husbands so that he would thereby receive a great reward. Faatimah, may Allah be pleased with her, was the fourth and youngest daughter of the Prophet (S.A.W).

During early childhood, parents have to look after their young children and provide them with their physiological and psychological needs. At the early stages of the child’s life, the mother shoulders the greater part of the responsibility of caring for her children. At this age, children are usually closer to their mothers. Khadeejah, may Allah be pleased with her, was keen on looking after her children. After delivering, she would give them to someone to foster them in the open air of the desert so that the child would grow up to be eloquent and courageous, as the inhabitants thereof were known for these two qualities. This was the custom of the people of Quraysh, unlike what some mothers do, nowadays, when they give their children to servants and nannies to bring them up, who are known for their tampered creed and evil behavior, and thus affect the children of today in this manner.

During this stage of childhood, parents should introduce their daughters to the teachings of Islam, the rules of sound ‘Aqeedah (creed), recitation of the Quran, Salaah (prayer), and wearing Hijaab so that they would be used to this from their very early days


http://www.islamweb.net/en/article/149361/



In fact honor killing existed in pre-Islam era in middle east.



Thanks for the elaborate post on the Hadiths. It is very helpful.

Thank You

 

[LeGenD]

Nobody forced anyone to look at her pictures or posts if they found her offensive. People should mind their own God damn business and not judge other humans.

Sir, people judge others in different matters of life. We experience this ourselves when we give an interview, dress formally for presentations and/or public gatherings and what we say to others.

Your argument is flawed.

 

[Viper 94]

Honor of Pakistani men is restored.

Now can they plzz unlike her page and stop watching her videos.

Or are they going to still jack off to her while commenting "lanat es per" at the same time??

except it was her own family member who killed her for the reason that men "jack off to her while commenting "lanat es per" at the same time"
When people fail to teach good moral to their children they should blame them for acting like complete lunatics. This goes for qadeer baloch and her brother who murdered her

 

[LeGenD]

My question is for those who are feeling sorry for brother or justifying his acts of killing

My question is : How many guys in Pakistan doing same acts or even worse compare to what Qadaeel Bloch did will face death from women/men of their families because they bring shame and disgrace for family? When you bring religion and morality then why dont apply it equally on men as well? Why honour just revolve around women? Men smoke cigarette and even shars is fine while women smoking would make her bad woman or prostitute. Men sleeping with women is ok and no shame for family while women even talking to men suggest she must be slept with them and deserve death..Are you guys dumb?

What makes you think that critics are focusing only on females?

If a guy conducts vulgar acts in a song or footage, he will be judged equally harsh. Both men and women are subjected to honor killings in Pakistan, as unfortunate the practice is.

I dislike smoking, and I don't find it acceptable for any gender. Smoking is bad for health.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Brother was a tableegi. Obviously, The Mufti has a hand in this.

 

[PAKjunoon]

That part is not true, many strippers and prostitutes earn respectable amounts of money, and support themselves and their families. I personally know two girls who paid for college by working weekends and part time as strippers. (One of them is working as an up and coming attorney in the DA's office.)

Most people here do not consider it to be a sin or a matter of shame. But the outlook is different in India or Pakistan - but that does not justify murder.

WRONG!
In America and the rest of western world it is still consider to be a matter of shame.Thats why most of the strippers, adult actresses and webcam models will never use their real name on camera or with their clients.They do it best to hide their real work from their friends and family.
Because if their activities are found by their friends and family they are socially destroyed.They get a bad name for their rest of life and no company will ever hire them.
Majority of them know that what they are doing is wrong thats why the use of drugs and alcohol in these profession are very high.They turn to drugs to desensitise themselves from these feeling of guilt and shame.
And about your D.A friend, if the employer found out about her past then they will never hire her.