Punjab Govt To File Case Against Hamza Ali Abbasi Over Facebook Post.

[Zibago]

then what about the TTP support yar usay kesay ignore karon.

Yano wo jo kehtey hain hamari aur apki soch aik hay

 

[X-2.]

Ganja is just lanti

 

[Hell hound]

Yano wo jo kehtey hain hamari aur apki soch aik hay

zara thora sa khul kay bat karein hum ajj kal byano ki syasat say thora dor hain.

 

[Zibago]

zara thora sa khul kay bat karein hum ajj kal byano ki syasat say thora dor hain.

Jab Punjab mein attack huya to ye Shehbaz Sharif ney farmaya hamari aur apki soch aik hay ap dosrey soboan mein attack karein hamain na attack karein

 

[Hell hound]

Jab Punjab mein attack huya to ye Shehbaz Sharif ney farmaya hamari aur apki soch aik hay ap dosrey soboan mein attack karein hamain na attack karein

ahan main to bhol hi gya tha.

 

[Zibago]

ahan main to bhol hi gya tha.

Sheikh sahab kam ki batein nahi bholtey

 

[haviZsultan]

Humza abbasi speaks his mind. That is why the government, facebook america mullahs and everybody else is against him. I support his principled stand on Kashmir and sympathy for the plight of Ahmedis.

 

[Arsalan]

mind if i join.
N league in my opinion is less worse then PTI at the moment they are corrupt but the are not islamist apologist like PTI.
but answer to you second query is PTI. they can be brought back more easily i think.

Sure thing. ANYONE can join in. I am just looking for some good constructive debate here.
Both your points are noted. While i am not sure i entirely agree with the first one (Hints LeJ) you never gave the reason for the second one. I hope you can shed some light on that?

revolution is way out as I see it. Each and every Pakistani is corrupt to the core. You cant get any work done here unless you pay bribe even for legal work. You have white collar criminals whitewashing everything in offices. The lawyers worst sot of snakes, the doctor's worst sort of butchers.

Revolution?
I am not sure if they are suitable anymore in today's time. A thing of past i would say. You can see how the entire middle east and arab region have been spoiled by those so called revolutions. Plus the other important thing is that for a revolution you need a front man as well. Some one to lead those masses in our case.

I am not sure if revolution is the right way. I would say that letting the democratic process to continue would be the best approach however i do hope we somehow manage free and fair elections. We all know that is not the case right now and frankly, i do not see that changing any time soon. However IF we are to get out of it we will need air elections and the democratic process to continue.

Plus i personally think that PTI is lesser evil here and also it is relatively easy to bring them back on the right track. They have done two three stupid things and if those can be address they will at least give us a good base to start with. In future, we may get some even better option.

then what about the TTP support yar usay kesay ignore karon.

Its not "TTP support" The calls for dialogues is not equal to supporting them and as things unfolded the dialogue options started to look stupid as well. It is that way for now but trust me, at the end of the day, there will be talks to end this forever. The thing required now is that max. damage in inflicted between now and that time.

I second it. We do not have a good option. Yes IK is better than the leaders of other parties. But we don't have what you call a best option.

True.
But A LOT is expected from him and he will need to bring some big changes to retain that support. He will have to do so to retain mine at least.

 

[Hell hound]

Plus i personally think that PTI is lesser evil here and also it is relatively easy to bring them back on the right track. They have done two three stupid things and if those can be address they will at least give us a good base to start with. In future, we may get some even better option

that's also my reason for thinking why pti can be brought back much more easily than N league.

Its not "TTP support" The calls for dialogues is not equal to supporting them and as things unfolded the dialogue options started to look stupid as well. It is that way for now but trust me, at the end of the day, there will be talks to end this forever. The thing required now is that max. damage in inflicted between now and that time.

i know that in the end we will have to end things on table.that's the only way and this is what i am afraid of what if they come back after all they are stubborn lot.then we will be only giving them the precious time they need to regroup and start the terror again.anyway that's the debate for the future.coming back to imran his problem is that he still shows a soft corner for them every now and then.look at madrassa funding or after the treatment of talibans in shokat khanam (i know he wasn't aware that they are treating taliban) he never held any press conference to condemn this and about increasing the control at the hospital so this type of thing never happens again.i his current form i am afraid of him what if he turn out to be a islamist when he get in power.but as pointed out by other posters equally comforting thought is he lived his whole life as a liberal and he might be one of best thing happens to pakistan.but its all gamble and i am unwilling to play it because stakes are too high right now.

 

[Arsalan]

i know that in the end we will have to end things on table.that's the only way and this is what i am afraid of what if they come back after all they are stubborn lot.then we will be only giving them the precious time they need to regroup and start the terror again.anyway that's the debate for the future..

That is why i mentioned that we just need to inflict maximum damage between now and the time when we get to sit on table to end this once and for all.

As for Imran khan becoming an extremist (i wont say Islamist, i see no harm in that when practiced in the real sense of religion) you will remember how many call him a Yahoodi agent. It is like "jitny munh utni baatain" man. Anyway, i do agree and feel that there are some serious problems that he will have to address and certain things he will have to correct to deliver on what was expected from him and still is.

 

[Hell hound]

you will remember how many call him a Yahoodi agent. It is like "jitny munh utni baatain" man

mostly because our people are influenced by local molvi and they spew utter bullshit against anyone who remotely threaten their power over people and see liberals as their enemy number 1.
i hope sense prevails and people come to understand the fact that you either change with time and world or you are left behind to suffer alone.

 

[I.R.A]

None. They are more or less of the same league.

Pakistan should stop electing PMs / CMs instead future PM / CMs should be groomed in an institute along with their Kabeena, educated, disciplined, honest, loyal and dedicated ..................... all these MNAs should be just medium for conveying problems their areas are facing, they should have no participation whatsoever in legislation, development of our country. I say hang them all the current ones with their useless offspring, most of them have sold their souls already.

 

[Arsalan]

Pakistan should stop electing PMs / CMs instead future PM / CMs should be groomed in an institute along with their Kabeena, educated, disciplined, honest, loyal and dedicated ..................... all these MNAs should be just medium for conveying problems their areas are facing, they should have no participation whatsoever in legislation, development of our country. I say hang them all the current ones with their useless offspring, most of them have sold their souls already.

You know what is even worse? Our liberals are also touching the extremes on the other side. What we need are moderate people and frankly speaking, Islam also teaches the same. It is the extremists on both sides of the line that are the source of the problem.

Pakistan should stop electing PMs / CMs instead future PM / CMs should be groomed in an institute along with their Kabeena, educated, disciplined, honest, loyal and dedicated ..................... all these MNAs should be just medium for conveying problems their areas are facing, they should have no participation whatsoever in legislation, development of our country. I say hang them all the current ones with their useless offspring, most of them have sold their souls already.

We have local bodies, local administrators and gov. officials coming from that setup. Look how much "good" they have done!

 

[salarsikander]

Revolution?
I am not sure if they are suitable anymore in today's time. A thing of past i would say. You can see how the entire middle east and arab region have been spoiled by those so called revolutions. Plus the other important thing is that for a revolution you need a front man as well. Some one to lead those masses in our case.

I am not sure if revolution is the right way. I would say that letting the democratic process to continue would be the best approach however i do hope we somehow manage free and fair elections. We all know that is not the case right now and frankly, i do not see that changing any time soon. However IF we are to get out of it we will need air elections and the democratic process to continue.

Plus i personally think that PTI is lesser evil here and also it is relatively easy to bring them back on the right track. They have done two three stupid things and if those can be address they will at least give us a good base to start with. In future, we may get some even better option.

The truth is our standard of settiling with anything that is less of evil is the very reason why we are in this place. My ancestors didnt give up their lives so that one day we could make do with anyone who is less evil !

I am afraid and I might sound rude too, but you defintion is extremely pathetic, Why on earth shall we lower the standards for governance. It is true that we dont have choice but then again power will finds its way to rest on someones head.

As for arab engineered/doctored spring, lets not even compare it with revolution its total B.S. Why would people fight for the country, when the country is wholly legally owned by one king ? or if not, then by a president who has been behind seat for the past 30 years or so. IK is plain idiot thats all, He is not corrupt person that for sure and he might be a very good person. OFC he is that's why people are willing to support and help him for social cause, but hes nothing more than social activist or philtanorpost like Edhi . Ganja and co are just another bunch of traitors who are here to loot and increase their influence by any means, its already been demonstrated that they would even kill their own people from lahore in order to suppress the opposition

 

[I.R.A]

You know what is even worse? Our liberals are also touching the extremes on the other side. What we need are moderate people and frankly speaking, Islam also teaches the same. It is the extremists on both sides of the line that are the source of the problem.

Couple that with our lack of knowledge and habit of not asking questions and there you have a perfect brainwashed zombie ready to blow himself up or declare drinking is halal.

We have local bodies, local administrators and gov. officials coming from that setup. Look how much "good" they have done!

They were not given enough time, but to rely solely on them would be foolish. Independent accountability checks and institutions may help. Institution building has been missing all along, asal may haram khori ki adat bohat buri tarah par gai hy humay.