Pulwama - From Bluster to a Whimper

[Imran Khan]

PAF should release these voice intercepts. It will settle a lot of things

indians wil say its fake . you know them they said abhi nandan is pakistani guy on 27 feb.

 

[Point 5310]

The Su30MKI didnot survive the impact of the missile, as the IAF "killed" off a Su30MKI pilot a few days later when he some how managed to run into a tree, at 3am in the morning .... So, that MKI didnot make it back to base.

Kaiser cannot join the dots like that, we can. He has presented a clear, and logical and detailed explanation of what happened that morning.

Nice try.
But both Sq Ldr RK Pandey & injured Wg. Cdr HS Bagga belonged to Administrative (ground duty) branch.

 

[Falcon26]

indians wil say its fake . you know them they said abhi nandan is pakistani guy on 27 feb.

The Indians still insist on Balakot strikes & F-16 kill despite overwhelming evidence against their claims. That the world debunked their claims isn’t stopping them. No PAF evidence will. But PAF providing some sort of evidence will help preserve the facts for historical record. Ultimately, the people of Pakistan deserve to know everything, and they deserve to see any evidence. This is how institutions gain credibility.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

The Indians still insist on Balakot strikes & F-16 kill despite overwhelming evidence against their claims. That the world debunked their claims isn’t stopping them. No PAF evidence will. But PAF providing some sort of evidence will help preserve the facts for historical record. Ultimately, the people of Pakistan deserve to know everything, and they deserve to see any evidence. This is how institutions gain credibility.

True.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

If we see the timming the biggest link to Su-30 kill is the Mi-171 which was flown for Search & Rescue of Su30.

Because Bombing took place around 9:30 - 9:40 when the Su30 was also shot down.

Mig-21 and Mi-171 went down at 9:55 - 10:00.

It was obviously a SAR mission with Garud Commandos also onboard

You pointed out the obvious reason why Mi17 was on SAR
Because a jet had gone down on indian side of LoC
Well done

 

[litman]

So even If I take this article at face value this means that despite PAF having 26 fighters in the sky including 22 4th gen jets backed by AEWCS and IAF having only 8-9 fighters in the air including just 4 4th gen jets, IAF lost only a mere rusty 35+ year old MiG-21 despite being outnumbered 3:1.

first you lost two air crafts and one mi 17. second there was no restriction on india on scrambling more jets.it was not some sort of exercise with some conditions applied to air engagement. it was a real air combat with PAF jets bombing indian ground targets. your AF could have and should have scrambled entire fleet of interceptors and air superiority fighters of western air command to counter PAF specially at the very peak of escalation and when strike was highly anticipated. IAF should sluggish reflexes, response and poor training. they could scramble only a handful of aircrafts . if this is the state of operational readiness at the very peak of escalation what will be the response time during peace time. in simple words your air force was caught sleeping.

 

[TsAr]

I fail to understand my do fellow members have to insult each other if they don't agree with each other. @Hodor and @airomerix and @Windjammer have made valuable contributions to this forum. If one does not agree with their viewpoint or any member what so ever, move on to another thread or post. Hurling abuses to one another does not reflect positively for the form and us as a nation as well.

 

[NA71]

DG ISPR indeed in 27/2 presser said....."iss ki video ham aap ko thuri dein mein dekhatey hein".

 

[HawkEye27]

DG ISPR indeed in 27/2 presser said....."iss ki video ham aap ko thuri dein mein dekhatey hein".

CAS and COAS both agreed to cancel the show in other to de-escalate

 

[NA71]

CAS and COAS both agreed to cancel the show in other to de-escalate

OK fine....but sometimes ...it helps to deter your enemy ...the psychological impact would be huge...and it could resonate many many years to come.

 

[TOPGUN]

The truth that goes down in history can never be erased simple as that !!

 

[NA71]

The truth that goes down in history can never be erased simple as that !!

The truth got blurred in fog of war. and it is favoring our adversary.

 

[HawkEye27]

OK fine....but sometimes ...it helps to deter your enemy ...the psychological impact would be huge...and it could resonate many many years to come.

Bhai ap video ko rao rahay ho and I am still angry at the navy for letting that sub go away

 

[NA71]

Bhai ap video ko rao rahay ho and I am still angry at the navy for letting that sub go away

hahahah ....great one.....kis kis ko roein.

lagta hey we really intended to see Modi's victory....if true picture was shown to world ...The Indian election result would have been completely opposite

 

[airomerix]

Please refer to post #7783 for clarity on Su-30 kill.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/27-f...de-pakistani-airspace-dg-ispr.604031/page-519