Protests over Macedonia's name agreement

[Dai Toruko]

More than 15,000 Greeks protested in the northern city of Thessaloniki over a deal with neighbouring Macedonia to end a decades-old dispute over its name.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Some people fight over occupations, oppression, and dictators. Here in Europe, people with nothing to do are fighting over names.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Some people fight over occupations, oppression, and dictators. Here in Europe, people with nothing to do are fighting over names.

Tell about it I grew up with Greeks here in Queens and all day they bitch about Albanians,Greeks,Macedonians and the Turks boyyy the hate them a lot, whenever you go to a Greek store or diner you will find posters saying Macedonia is Greek or Turks out of Cyprus

Greeks are ok people only problem they take their hate of Turks way too far in fact cause I grew up with Greeks I had a very anti-Turkish mindset until I meat a actual Turk several years ago.Turks dont really care about the shit in the past as much like the Greeks or Armenians

Greeks and Armenians also lobby the US Congress and media a lot thats why people have a dim view of Turkey here in America plus that retard Erdogan the clown aint helping its image

Some people fight over occupations, oppression, and dictators. Here in Europe, people with nothing to do are fighting over names.

I am guessing you seen those people as well here in the States

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Turks dont really care about the shit in the past as much like the Greeks or Armenians

Also because many Turks have Greek and Armenian ancestry. Those Non-Muslims who converted didn't just vanish, they became Turks.

Greeks and Armenians have an intense hatred for all Muslims, whom they refer to as Turks. it is from their misguided and eschewed view of history. Easily comparable to Indian Hindu hate of Pakistanis.

I am guessing you seen those people as well here in the States

Yes, they always want us to hate Turks, but I have also responded the same way. How can we hate our brothers and sisters?

I am currently teaching myself Turkish to gain access to the poetry of Bedi uz Zaman Said Nursi, Mehmet Akif Ersoy and Yunus Emre. We can learn a lot from these great poets of Islam.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Turks are more civic nationalists than the Greeks I am learning Arabic and Turkish on my own

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I am learning Arabic and Turkish on my own

Alhamdulilah. Please enrich yourself with poetry from Turkish and Farsi too. If you can read Urdu, then Allama Iqbal also. Fus-ha Arabic enough to understand Quran.

There is a depreciation in value today of Islamic poetic works. We must bring back the love of it.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Exactly I think the big problem with Muslims these days is we forgeting that we were once a great civilization and sadly a lot of the diaspora folks even the Pakistanis one buy the twisted western narative that we were invaders and caused destruction of great nations again History is not black and white

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Exactly I think the big problem with Muslims these days is we forgeting that we were once a great civilization and sadly a lot of the diaspora folks even the Pakistanis one buy the twisted western narative that we were invaders and caused destruction of great nations again History is not black and white

Majority of Pakistani Americans have in their minds moved on from being Pakistanis. They have married Arabs, Whites, Spanish, or other white races and now have mixed children. Those who marry other Pakistanis in the US have forgotten urdu, punjabi, pukhto, seraiki, etc.

After losing culture, the next step is losing religion. Unfortunately, American Muslims have got it all backwards by trying to assimilate into a culture which will never accept them.

This is why I respect British Pakistanis who kept their cultural and religious identity. In comparison, they have lower apostasy rates. American Muslim apostasy rates are at 23%!!!

 

[Yankee-stani]

Majority of Pakistani Americans have in their minds moved on from being Pakistanis. They have married Arabs, Whites, Spanish, or other white races and now have mixed children. Those who marry other Pakistanis in the US have forgotten urdu, punjabi, pukhto, seraiki, etc.

After losing culture, the next step is losing religion. Unfortunately, American Muslims have got it all backwards by trying to assimilate into a culture which will never accept them.

This is why I respect British Pakistanis who kept their cultural and religious identity. In comparison, they have lower apostasy rates. American Muslim apostasy rates are at 23%!!!

Well I am mixed myself my mom is Hispanic I am not against Muslims marrying other Muslims from other countries but I get your point as for British Pakistani I do like they care about their motherland but I feel they should move out of the UK ASAP as those Alt Right parties get popular.Muslim Immigrating in the West back in the 50s,60s,70s,and 80s made a big mistake in my opinion and those govts only needed Immigrants from the 2nd and 3rd world for cheap labor and frankly push the J....wish twisted form of multiculturalism where Liberalism runs amok and us people who came from Middle East,Central Asia,East Asia,Eastern Europe,Latin America and Africa are just being used as pawns to J...ish Left Wing political parties like Democrats in the USA or Labour in the UK

I may not like the Alt Right but when it comes to J..ws,Israel and everything wrong with Western Governments and Culture they do make a point and are right on that.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Well I am mixed myself my mom is Hispanic I am not against Muslims marrying other Muslims from other countries but I get your point as for British Pakistani I do like they care about their motherland

Ma sha Allah, somewhere and someplace, someone has filled the love of Pakistan in you. May Allah swt bless them. You are an exception to the rule.

The wider situation for us in the West is not endearing optimism. When being a proud Pakistani and speaking Urdu/Punjabi/Pukhto is viewed as backwards and even primitive among American Pakistanis, we are facing a huge problem. The apostasy rate is just the beginning. I would not be surprised if Pakistani Americans simple cease to exist in the US in a few generations by melting into the society.

We have lost our direction, and may need to redirect our people back to the source of who we are. This is where Allama Iqbal's poetry can help us.

Brother, please learn urdu and travel to Pakistan often, don't lose touch.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Ma sha Allah, somewhere and someplace, someone has filled the love of Pakistan in you. May Allah swt bless them. You are an exception to the rule.

The wider situation for us in the West is not endearing optimism. When being a proud Pakistani and speaking Urdu/Punjabi/Pukhto is viewed as backwards and even primitive among American Pakistanis, we are facing a huge problem. The apostasy rate is just the beginning. I would not be surprised if Pakistani Americans simple cease to exist in the US in a few generations by melting into the society.

We have lost our direction, and may need to redirect our people back to the source of who we are. This is where Allama Iqbal's poetry can help us.

Brother, please learn urdu and travel to Pakistan often, don't lose touch.

My Father who turns 72 this October 1st may Allah(swt) bless him made sure that I was raised Muslim and knew I was Pakistani, he made sure that we visited our motherland often, this is part of the reason my parents divorced a few years back because my mother who was Hispanic and Catholic wasn't fond of this.Part of the reason why I joined PDF was to meet like minded people and by the grace of Allah(swt) I found some good people here, its hard being a Pakistani lover here when your own community thinks you are way too nationalistic or a FOB,and to be frank I dont have many American Pakistani friends and many think I am just a idiot.I am learning Urdu slowly by watching some Pakistani TV and my father helps me translate the content I find the language to be much soothing than Arabic or Spanish.We as American Pakistanis should be like the Greeks,Koreans,Chinese and Turks here,I know a Greek Bud who is ancestors came through Ellis Island way back in the 1910s yet his family still has connections to Greece and Greek issues, eventhough many of his family did intermarry with Italians later on with other groups they made sure they knew Greek language and Greek Culture same goes with other groups in America do the same.We dont invest in our community or have centers that help with that

 

[Yankee-stani]

Ma sha Allah, somewhere and someplace, someone has filled the love of Pakistan in you. May Allah swt bless them. You are an exception to the rule.

The wider situation for us in the West is not endearing optimism. When being a proud Pakistani and speaking Urdu/Punjabi/Pukhto is viewed as backwards and even primitive among American Pakistanis, we are facing a huge problem. The apostasy rate is just the beginning. I would not be surprised if Pakistani Americans simple cease to exist in the US in a few generations by melting into the society.

We have lost our direction, and may need to redirect our people back to the source of who we are. This is where Allama Iqbal's poetry can help us.

Brother, please learn urdu and travel to Pakistan often, don't lose touch.

I wont lose touch inshallah

 

[DejanSRB]

I personally have a different views on this question, one for Greeks and one for Macedonians.

There is no closer nation to Serbs then Greeks, more then 1.1 million Serbs or cca. 13% of our population visited Greek coastline this summer, or 70% of all tourists from Serbia.
As a European I belong to Greco-Roman civilization and as a Serb I belong to Byzantian commonwealth which is practicaly Greek Empire which civilized south and eastern Slavs. Thats truth and everyone who denies it have inferiority complex towards Greeks.

So, Macedonians are Slavic nation that steals Greek history, small nation on periphery of human progress which try to steal, forefathers of all human progress since Aristotel till Ottoman occupation.

On the other hand, Serbia need stable southern border and for Macedonians ( and huge majority of Macedonians are good hearted people) it would be great to enter NATO to save itself from Albanian tribes that get stucked in 3th century.

So it is win win situation for both Macedonians and Greeks. Macedonia will stop to steal glorious Greek history, and for exchange it will became stable country that will have to civilize Albanian tribes with they primitive culture ( blood revenge, incest, selling daughters to wealty Serbs, Bulgarians, Greeks, Turks..., prostitute and drug powerhouse of the Europe).



I want to avoid being banned again for Albanian thessis in my last sentence and for that I will provide sources for my accusations.

Blood revange in Albania
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gjakmarrja

SERBS BUYING ALBANIAN WIFES
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/zmebnw/the-rural-villages-where-men-buy-their-brides

Albanian women are most popolous prostitutes in Europe per capita
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/blog/the-sex-worker-and-albania-s-highest-court-01-05-2016

Albanian export are only its women and its cocaine and heroine
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-goons-exploiting-Europes-porous-borders.html

 

[Saho]

Tell about it I grew up with Greeks here in Queens and all day they bitch about Albanians,Greeks,Macedonians and the Turks boyyy the hate them a lot, whenever you go to a Greek store or diner you will find posters saying Macedonia is Greek or Turks out of Cyprus

Pretty much same with Macos as well. I have a Maco friend who bitch 24/7 about Greeks, Albanians and Bulgarians taking their lands and stealing their history.

No one but the three.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Pretty much same with Macos as well. I have a Maco friend who bitch 24/7 about Greeks, Albanians and Bulgarians taking their lands and stealing their history.

No one but the three.

Everyone in the Balkans and Eastern Europe hates each other and claims the took their history we dont have that many Macos here its mostly Greeks and Albanians here but in recent years some Turks have moved in here as well