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Pressures increasing on Indonesia and Malaysia in the South China Sea
By Ben Westcott and Brad Lendon, CNN
Updated 11:46 PM EDT, Sun June 07, 2020
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Hong Kong(CNN)Chinese and Malaysian vessels were locked in a high-stakes standoff for more than one month earlier this year, near the island of Borneo in the South China Sea.

The Malaysian-authorized drill ship, the West Capella, was looking for resources in waters also claimed by Beijing, when a Chinese survey vessel, accompanied by coast guard ships, sailed into the area and began conducting scans, according to satellite images analyzed by the Asia Maritime Transparency Institute (AMTI).

Malaysia deployed naval vessels to the area, which were later backed by US warships that had been on joint exercises in the South China Sea.

Beijing claimed it was conducting "normal activities in waters under Chinese jurisdiction," but for years Chinese vessels have been accused of hounding countries who try to explore for resources in waters that China claims as its own.

Now, experts say the Chinese ships are adopting increasingly forceful tactics, which risks sparking new conflicts with major regional powers such as Malaysia and Indonesia.

Greg Polling, director of the AMTI, said the countries are more important than ever as Chinese ships expand their reach in the region, mostly due to the advanced construction of Beijing's artificial islands in the South China Sea.

"(The islands) provide forward basing for Chinese ships, effectively turning Malaysia and Indonesia into front line states," Polling said. "On any given day, there about dozen coast guard ships buzzing around the Spratly Islands, and about a hundred fishing boats, ready to go."

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An Indonesian air force pilot prepares for taking off in an F-16 at an air base in Pekanbaru, Riau on January 7, to deploy near the Natuna Islands.


Nine-dash line


The South China Sea is one of the most hotly contested regions in the world, with competing claims from China, Vietnam, Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan and Indonesia.

Beijing's territorial claims, known as the nine-dash line -- owing to the markings printed on Chinese maps of the region -- are by far the largest and encompass almost the entirety of the sea, from Hainan Island down to the top of Indonesia. China's claims have no basis under international law and were found to be invalid in a 2016 international court ruling.

Despite this, from about 2015 the Chinese government began to bolster its territorial ambitions by building artificial islands on reefs and shoals in the South China Sea, and then militarizing them with aircraft strips, harbors and radar facilities.

"These (islands) are bristling with radar and surveillance capabilities, they see everything that goes on in the South China Sea," Polling said. "In the past, China didn't know where you were drilling. Now they certainly do."

Experts say Beijing has created an armada of coast guard and Chinese fishing vessels that can be deployed in the South China Sea to harass other claimant's ships or sail in politically sensitive areas.

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Growing aggression


The confrontation over the Malaysian drill ship wasn't the first act of aggression by the Chinese government in the region in 2020.

in the South China Sea.

The act prompted Vietnam to send a diplomatic note to the United Nations restating its sovereignty over its exclusive economic zone in the South China Sea. Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang responded by saying China would take "all measures necessary" to safeguard Beijing's interests in the region.

"I want to stress this: attempts by any country to negate in any means China's sovereignty, rights and interests in the South China Sea and to reinforce its own illegal claim are bound to be fruitless," Geng said.

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Insecurity


Beijing has a long history of harassing other countries' vessels in the South China Sea, mostly from Vietnam and the Philippines and also occasionally from Malaysia and Indonesia.

In the past, Chinese diplomats have helped soothed aggrieved parties, but experts say the fallout from the coronavirus and the rise of so-called "wolf warrior" diplomacy in Beijing have removed any circuit breaker in the relationship between China and its regional rivals.

"What has changed is that they've really taken the glove off of the fist diplomatically. The statements are brash and unhelpful," said Polling.

Experts said Beijing's growing forcefulness in the region is partly driven by the global coronavirus pandemic, which has dealt a heavy blow to China's rapid economic growth and damaged the country's international reputation.

At the meeting of its parliament in May, the Chinese government didn't set a target for annual GDP growth for the first time in years, a sign that it is concerned about falling economic performance.

At the same time, tensions are rising with the United States and Europe over Beijing's role in containing the initial outbreak and whether it gave the world enough time to respond to the pandemic, which has killed more than 380,000 people.


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Concerned about appearing like its grip on power is slipping, the ruling Communist Party is doubling down on its rhetoric and on its nationalistic agenda, which includes control of the South China Sea, experts said.

Beijing is keen to foster a narrative that the US is retreating as a global power to solidify its hold on the region, said Ian Storey, senior fellow at ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute in Singapore.

"It will want to show Southeast Asian claimants that American military power is on the decline and its commitment to the region is waning," Storey said. "(It will want to show that) the economic problems that China is facing will not impact its policy on the South China Sea."

So far, Malaysia and Indonesia have tried to avoid letting South China Sea dominate their relationship with China, but with Beijing marking its territory in the region, the days of quiet diplomacy might not last forever.

"At what level of aggression does it become impossible to ignore? ... At what point do they add their voice to the criticism that you've been getting for years and years from Hanoi and Manila?" AMTI's Polling said.


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Free-for-all


Facing an entrenched Chinese presence on their doorstep, now might seem like the time for Southeast Asian nations to band together and face down Beijing's presence in the region.

But Storey said with regional powers preoccupied with coronavirus as well as their own economic and political crises, any hope of unity in the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) was unlikely.

"No matter how hard China pushes I don't think we're going to see the ASEAN members coalesce and present that strong united front against China," he said.

"I think going forward in the next six months, towards the end of 2020, we can expect China to double down on its assertive behavior in the South China Sea."

Malaysia has long worked to balance the benefits of a close relationship with China with running its own independent foreign policy, AMTI's Polling said, which is why previous clashes with Chinese vessels in Malaysian waters were kept out of the media as much as possible.

Indonesia has in the past opened fire on Chinese fishing vessels that failed to leave its waters, and President Widodo's tough behavior in January showed he will not sit by while Beijing moves into the Natuna Islands.

But experts say China won't be easily deterred.

"Beijing believes it can wear down Indonesian opposition; and eventually Indonesia, much like Malaysia, will realize that it has little choice but to accommodate China's presence," Foreign Policy Research Institute senior fellow Felix Chang wrote in January.

Still, there is risk too for the Chinese government. The United States is already increasing its freedom of navigation operations in the South China Sea, holding half as many in the first five months of 2020 as it did in the whole of last year.

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Washington is also working to directly support Southeast Asian nations in the South China Sea. The Malaysian Navy received its first batch of surveillance drones from the US in May.

And, during the West Capella's operations, US Navy warships performed what the US Navy called "presence operations" near the drill ship while it was being monitored by the Chinese vessels.

"The US supports the efforts of our allies and partners in the lawful pursuit of their economic interests," Vice Adm. Bill Merz, commander of the US 7th Fleet, said in a statement at the time.

Speaking in a public lecture in May, James Holmes, a professor at the US Naval War College and former Navy officer, said that as Beijing pushes harder in the South China Sea, the US may look like the better bet for a steady friend.

"I think China has actually seriously overplayed its hand by being so bullying and by being so aggressive," Holmes said.

"That starts driving together allies that are worried about Chinese aggression ... The more China pushes the more coalition partners are likely to unite and push back."

Any push back could cost Beijing economically.

China has close trade ties with many of its regional neighbors, such as the Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia, and needs them for parts of its international agenda such as its much trumpeted Belt and Road Initiative -- the country's interlinking web of regional trade deals and infrastructure projects.

"I think there's already been a lot of unease in the region about how China has used Covid-19 to push its claims in the South China Sea," said Storey, from ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute.

"China won't want to completely destroy its relations with Southeast Asia by pushing too hard."

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the Malays are learning chinese tastes of friendship. Xi Jingping is amused.
 
the Malays are learning chinese tastes of friendship. Xi Jingping is amused.

They know already, they just act submissively under previous administration. Mahathir show more strength diplomatically but we dont know yet with this current PM.
 
They know already, they just act submissively under previous administration. Mahathir show more strength diplomatically but we dont know yet with this current PM.
I really don’t care. if the Malays want their property to be looted then be it.
You are smarter.
 
Most Indonesia might not agree with me but actually I'm more keen on Joint Indonesian-Malaysian defense alliance, A Malaysia-Indonesia cooperation is more viable than lets say Indonesia-Vietnam we are both very similar in culture, religion, ethnicity etc and I think we have resolved our Ambalat issue , the security of Indonesia vis-a-vis malaysia is more important for us than other SE Asian Country. Natuna and the malacca Strait are Vital to both countries and both are under pressure from China expansionism.

We Indonesian must get rid of our difference with Malaysia, there must be some sort of normalization between the two. In case of South China sea getting hot, i think its more easy to establish joint command with malaysia as most of our military equipment are similar (NATO).

@Indos
 
Most Indonesia might not agree with me but actually I'm more keen on Joint Indonesian-Malaysian defense alliance, A Malaysia-Indonesia cooperation is more viable than lets say Indonesia-Vietnam we are both very similar in culture, religion, ethnicity etc and I think we have resolved our Ambalat issue , the security of Indonesia vis-a-vis malaysia is more important for us than other SE Asian Country. Natuna and the malacca Strait are Vital to both countries and both are under pressure from China expansionism.

We Indonesian must get rid of our difference with Malaysia, there must be some sort of normalization between the two. In case of South China sea getting hot, i think its more easy to establish joint command with malaysia as most of our military equipment are similar (NATO).

@Indos

Better to see them falling under heaps rather to have close cooperation with them. They are unrelliable bunch to begin with, an unrelliable Ally is hundreds times more dangerous than mighty Foe.They doesnt have fervent anti communist stance compared to us, they are known to switch sides when the odds against them since long (the history of Malays kingdoms in the past is full of such story).

Australian is more reliable in my opinion, so with the Singkies

For standard equipment, the Malaysian is not really compatible with us.
 
They know already, they just act submissively under previous administration. Mahathir show more strength diplomatically but we dont know yet with this current PM.
Disagree, Mahathir does not like US involvement and much willing to talk rather than confront China. You don't watch his videos enough. The current admin is the same, these are just propaganda articles.
 
They know already, they just act submissively under previous administration. Mahathir show more strength diplomatically but we dont know yet with this current PM.
Wrong.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/1760514/mahathir-no-point-confronting-china
"KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia does not want to take a confrontational stance toward China over the disputed South China Sea or alleged mistreatment of minority Uighur Muslims, Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said in an interview published on Saturday.
Malaysia is too small to face up to the Asian powerhouse, even though Chinese ships surveying its waters for oil and gas in South China Sea do so without permission, he told an online news service during his visit to New York where he addressed the UN General Assembly.
“We watch what they are doing, we report what they are doing, but we do not chase them away or try to be aggressive,” Mahathir told BenarNews, an online news service affiliated with Radio Free Asia that reports in five languages."

Mahathir too afraid to defend his countrys territory.

Peaceful rise of China continues.
It's not they have disputes with everyone except russia , but that they are so blatant in using their military. Atleast the Americans couch their military actions under peace keeping or human rights , the Chinese are like ' its ours from a very ancient map , and I have more guns'.
 
Disagree, Mahathir does not like US involvement and much willing to talk rather than confront China. You don't watch his videos enough. The current admin is the same, these are just propaganda articles.
@Dark1

As I said previously, Mahathir took more strength position diplomatically than previous administration by the fact that Malaysia under his administration try to challenge China nine dash line with new claim in Desember last year and submit it to UN. His foreign minister doesnt summon China ambassador every time China fishing vessel and CG intrude their ZEE and look like doesnt try to drive away Chinese ships either like Indonesia and Vietnam do, but behind the door he did try to challenge China.

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South China Sea Disputes Arise Again
  • Robert Beckman
  • Straits Times
  • 6 January 2020
Recent communications by the governments of Malaysia and China to the United Nations Secretary-General with respect to Malaysia’s submission regarding an ‘extended continental shelf’ in the South China Sea have once again focused attention on the legal and maritime disputes in the South China Sea.

On 12 December last year, the Malaysian government advised the UN Secretary-General that it was depositing a partial submission to the Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf (CLCS) in order to claim an extended continental shelf in the northern part of the South China Sea beyond the outer limit of the 200 nautical mile exclusive economic zone (EEZ) it claims from the baselines along its coast.

On the same day, China officially protested against Malaysia’s submission by sending an official communication to the UN Secretary-General, asserting that Malaysia’s submission seriously infringed China’s sovereignty, sovereign rights and jurisdiction in the South China Sea.

The objective of this commentary is to explain the significance of these submissions to the ongoing legal disputes in the South China Sea.

https://cil.nus.edu.sg/publication/south-china-sea-disputes-arise-again/
 
Has the CIA infiltrated Indonesian news?
Do all chinese support the Chinese government's aggressive actions against all neighbors or a sizable percentage quitely oppose spoiling relations with such smaller neighbors ?
Dont give a official patriotic answer, people in every country have differing views from their country's governments. In India people sit in the capital and advocate breaking up India, which is pretty extreme but look at usa , even more extreme. Even Pakistan has a healty debate on the politicians though ofcourse some are above reproach.
 
@Dark1

As I said previously, Mahathir took more strength position diplomatically than previous administration by the fact that Malaysia under his administration try to challenge China nine dash line with new claim in Desember last year and submit it to UN. His foreign minister doesnt summon China ambassador every time China fishing vessel and CG intrude their ZEE and look like doesnt try to drive away Chinese ships either like Indonesia and Vietnam do, but behind the door he did try to challenge China.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

South China Sea Disputes Arise Again
  • Robert Beckman
  • Straits Times
  • 6 January 2020
Recent communications by the governments of Malaysia and China to the United Nations Secretary-General with respect to Malaysia’s submission regarding an ‘extended continental shelf’ in the South China Sea have once again focused attention on the legal and maritime disputes in the South China Sea.

On 12 December last year, the Malaysian government advised the UN Secretary-General that it was depositing a partial submission to the Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf (CLCS) in order to claim an extended continental shelf in the northern part of the South China Sea beyond the outer limit of the 200 nautical mile exclusive economic zone (EEZ) it claims from the baselines along its coast.

On the same day, China officially protested against Malaysia’s submission by sending an official communication to the UN Secretary-General, asserting that Malaysia’s submission seriously infringed China’s sovereignty, sovereign rights and jurisdiction in the South China Sea.

The objective of this commentary is to explain the significance of these submissions to the ongoing legal disputes in the South China Sea.

https://cil.nus.edu.sg/publication/south-china-sea-disputes-arise-again/
As long US isn't involved, Malaysia is making a stance unless you want to be like the Arabs. You can't get rid of China without a shooting war in your own turf.

Has the CIA infiltrated Indonesian news?
the original article is from CNN.
 
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As long US isn't involved, Malaysia is making a stance unless you want to be like the Arabs. You can't get rid of China without a shooting war in your own turf.


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Latest event in SCS where Chinese oil survey vessel operating in Malaysia ZEE with China coast guard and its fishing militia which was then make US and Australia navy ships sail in the same location just show that Malaysia current government has asked US to help them drive away Chinese ships operating in their ZEE.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-se...uth-china-sea-amid-china-pressure-11589382717
 
So instead of taking Indonesian news the OP just takes one from USA just so he can bash China as usual, talk about a troll.

Do all chinese support the Chinese government's aggressive actions against all neighbors or a sizable percentage quitely oppose spoiling relations with such smaller neighbors ?
Dont give a official patriotic answer, people in every country have differing views from their country's governments. In India people sit in the capital and advocate breaking up India, which is pretty extreme but look at usa , even more extreme. Even Pakistan has a healty debate on the politicians though ofcourse some are above reproach.

The Spratlys and Paracels belongs to China.
 

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