President’s Arunachal visit irks China

[Dash]

It's perfectly fine if you're not capable of making an intellectual argument, but there's no need for personal attack.

Intellectual argument/, which part of wit did you exactly show here?

 

[INDIC]

Tibet historically belonged to China for hundreds of years, AP was never part of any indian kingdoms, hence the need for Simla Accord between the Chinese and the British. There was no India yet.

Tibet was the part of China only for small duration during Qing dynasty only to be integrated in China in 1950 in a military action. Real China only existed within Great Wall.

 

[jaiind]

 

[INDIC]

now now..lets start to learn how to study the maps,shall we???

the left most yellow part is Tawang,so called chinese Claim while Aksai Chin is in Kashmir(Noob,don't even know what logic you've to use,cause you've no bais of claim.its just like another 9 dotted line)...as per Arunachal Pradesh,until 1858,it was part of Ahom Kingdom,from Assam..unlike China,India was divided several kingdoms until 1947(even during British Rule,what Chibots don't know).its only during Integration of India,these kingdoms dissolved.unlike China,which simply grew exponentially by years under monarchy,claiming everything from Tibet,Mongolia,Xinjiang and others even Tawang from India(I wonder when was the last time China had boundary here),Indian Union built upon integration of homogeneous type of kingdoms.

Tibet was integrated in China by manchus against whom China built Great Wall, it wasn't the part of China during Ming Dynasty. But soon Qing Empire lost control over Tibet, in 1898 British led expedition in Tibet because Qing had no control over Tibet, in last days of Qing empire, Qings tried to send expedition in Tibet to reconquer it but that didn't happened. During 1912-1950 Tibet was independent, finally Tibet was conquered into China in 1950. Ironically, same Qing Emperor Puyi tried to segregate Manchukuo with the help of Japanese.

No, you missed the crux of the whole matter. The map is irrelevant to the fact that Tibet belongs to China back then, any treaty that is NOT rectified by China, naturally China will not recognized it. What's hard to understand?

Are you claiming Tibet was ruled by ROC from 1912-1949. What a fake version of history.

 

[Fattyacids]

Intellectual argument/, which part of wit did you exactly show here?

You're not capable of engaging in one, how could you recognize one.

Tibet was integrated in China by manchus against whom China built Great Wall, it wasn't the part of China during Ming Dynasty. But soon Qing Empire lost control over Tibet, in 1898 British led expedition in Tibet because Qing had no control over Tibet, in last days of Qing empire, Qings tried to send expedition in Tibet to reconquer it but that didn't happened. During 1912-1950 Tibet was independent, finally Tibet was conquered into China in 1950. Ironically, same Qing Emperor Puyi tried to segregate Manchukuo with the help of Japanese.

Are you claiming Tibet was ruled by ROC from 1912-1949. What a fake version of history.

NO one is talking about Tibet here, except you.

Tibet has always been part of China since Qing.

 

[INDIC]

From what I know the natives of Arunchal Pradesh are Hindu and Buddhist so wouldn't they have more in common with Indian culture. Also there doesn't seem to be any movement for a independent Arunchal Pradesh or a Chinese Arunchal Pradesh by the people so wouldn't it make more sense for it to remain part of India. I don't know much about the subject but I have quickly researched it.

Don't ask them. All these Chinese know nothing about the people of Arunachal their language or culture or religion, if they are tribal or non-tribal. Chinese only have the greed for the land of Arunachali people.

You're not capable of engaging in one, how could you recognize one.




NO one is talking about Tibet here, except you.

Read old comments.

 

[OrionHunter]

we can also give stapled visas to tibetans

Our political class and the present dispensation doesn't have the balls to do it!

Secondly the Chinese government needs to STFU. They've riled one and all due to their illegal claims over other countries territories and waters. Just what do they think they are?

And if they always had claimed that Arunachal was Chinese territory, then why did they turn tail and run away from the Somdorongchu Valley in Arunachal in1987 when the Indian Army's chief, Gen Sundarjee ordered them to get the hell out of there? They could have raised a stink by refusing to budge since they claim that the whole of AP is Chinese territory. But they knew what was good for them and thus withdrew without a whimper.

 

[Vinod2070]

You post simply proved my point that AP never belonged to any Indian kingdoms. If it did, there wouldn't be a need for China and British to negotiate. India as a country didn't even existed then.

When you were a Manchu livestock?

 

[JohnyD]

 

[Fattyacids]

From what I know the natives of Arunchal Pradesh are Hindu and Buddhist so wouldn't they have more in common with Indian culture. Also there doesn't seem to be any movement for a independent Arunchal Pradesh or a Chinese Arunchal Pradesh by the people so wouldn't it make more sense for it to remain part of India. I don't know much about the subject but I have quickly researched it.

Arunchal and the entire North East, aka 7 Sisters States, never belonged to any Indian kingdom, much less India. When British created India in 1947, NE was not part of India. After India was created, it then went on a hegemonic campaign against other princely states, Hyderabad, Kashmir, NE... That is the true face of India foreign policy, or "Forward policy." Somehow all indians here are oblivious to this piece of theirs own history. And they like to talk about chinese aggression, LOL.

 

[Ammyy]

Arunchal and the entire North East, aka 7 Sisters States, never belonged to any Indian kingdom, much less India. When British created India in 1947, NE was not part of India. After India was created, it then went on a hegemonic campaign against other princely states, Hyderabad, Kashmir, NE... That is the true face of India foreign policy, or "Forward policy." Somehow all indians here are oblivious to this piece of theirs own history.

Just like Tibet and never belongs to China?

 

[cloud_9]

Meanwhile over the skies in Arunachal Pradesh...........Su30 MKI's.

 

[Fattyacids]

Just like Tibet and never belongs to China?

Tibet belonged to China since Qing. Anglo Chinese Treaty of 1907 recognized it.

 

[Kill-The-Enemy]

Arunchal and the entire North East, aka 7 Sisters States, never belonged to any Indian kingdom, much less India. When British created India in 1947, NE was not part of India. After India was created, it then went on a hegemonic campaign against other princely states, Hyderabad, Kashmir, NE... That is the true face of India foreign policy, or "Forward policy." Somehow all indians here are oblivious to this piece of theirs own history. And they like to talk about chinese aggression, LOL.

If..but...never works.

They are a permanent part of India now. Logically whole Pakistan is ours but thats illogical to ask back. Same is the case with these.

 

[INDIC]

Tibet belonged to China since Qing. Anglo Chinese Treaty of 1907 recognized it.

Did Qing Dynasty have control over Tibet in 1907.