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Washington Should Prepare for Saudi Arabia's Collapse - The Atlantic


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It can’t last. The U.S. better get ready.


For half a century, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has been the linchpin of U.S. Mideast policy. A guaranteed supply of oil has bought a guaranteed supply of security. Ignoring autocratic practices and the export of Wahhabi extremism, Washington stubbornly dubs its ally “moderate.” So tight is the trust that U.S. special operators dip into Saudi petrodollars as a counter-terrorism slush fund without a second thought. In a sea of chaos, goes the refrain, the kingdom is one state that’s stable.

But is it?

In fact, Saudi Arabia is no state at all. There are two ways to describe it: as a political enterprise with a clever but ultimately unsustainable business model, or as an entity so corrupt as to resemble a vertically and horizontally integrated criminal organization. Either way, it can’t last. It’s past time U.S. decision-makers began planning for the collapse of the Saudi kingdom.

In recent conversations with military and other government personnel, we were startled at how startled they seemed at this prospect. Here’s the analysis they should be working through.

Understood one way, the Saudi king is the CEO of a family business that converts oil into payouts that buy political loyalty. They take two forms: cash handouts or commercial concessions for the increasingly numerous scions of the royal clan, and a modicum of public goods and employment opportunities for commoners. The coercive “stick” is supplied by brutal internal-security services lavishly outfitted with American equipment.

The United States has long counted on the ruling family having bottomless coffers of cash with which to rent loyalty. Even accounting for today’s low oil prices, and even as Saudi officials step up arms purchases and military adventures in Yemen and elsewhere, Riyadh is hardly running out of funds.

Still, expanded oil production in the face of such low prices—until the February 16 announcement of a Saudi-Russian output freeze at very high January levels—may reflect an urgent need for revenue as well as other strategic imperatives.Talk of a Saudi Aramco IPO similarly suggests a need for hard currency.

A political market, moreover, functions according to demand as well as supply. What if the price of loyalty rises?

It appears that is just what’s happening. King Salman had to spend lavishly to secure the allegiance of the notables who were pledged to the late King Abdullah. Here’s what played out in two other countries when this kind of inflation hit. In South Sudan, an insatiable elite not only diverted the newly minted country’s oil money to private pockets but also kept up their outsized demands when the money ran out, sparking a descent into chaos. The Somali government enjoys generous donor support, but is priced out of a very competitive political market by a host of other buyers—with ideological, security, or criminal agendas of their own.

Such comparisons may be offensive to Saudi leaders, but they are telling. If the loyalty price index keeps rising, the monarchy could face political insolvency.

The Saudi ruling elite is operating something like a sophisticated criminal enterprise.
Looked at another way, the Saudi ruling elite is operating something like a sophisticated criminal enterprise, when populations everywhere are making insistent demands for government accountability. With its political and business elites interwoven in a monopolistic network, quantities of unaccountable cash leaving the country for private investments and lavish purchases abroad, and state functions bent to serve these objectives, Saudi Arabia might be compared to such kleptocracies as Viktor Yanukovich’s Ukraine.

Increasingly, Saudi citizens are seeing themselves as just that: citizens, not subjects. In countries as diverse as Nigeria, Ukraine, Brazil, Moldova, and Malaysia, people are contesting criminalized government and impunity for public officials—sometimes violently. In more than half a dozen countries in 2015, populations took to the streets to protest corruption. In three of them, heads of state are either threatened or have had to resign. Elsewhere, the same grievances have contributed to the expansion of jihadist movements or criminal organizations posing as Robin Hoods. Russia and China’s external adventurism can at least partially be explained as an effort to re-channel their publics’ dissatisfaction with the quality of governance.

For the moment, it is largely Saudi Arabia’s Shia minority that is voicing political demands. But the highly educated Sunni majority, with unprecedented exposure to the outside world, is unlikely to stay satisfied forever with a few favors doled out by geriatric rulers impervious to their input. And then there are the “guest workers.” Saudi officials, like those in other Gulf states, seem to think they can exploit an infinite supply of indigents grateful to work, whatever the conditions. But citizens are now heavily outnumbered in their own countries by laborers who may soon begin claiming rights.

For decades, Riyadh has eased pressure by exporting its dissenters—like Osama bin Laden—fomenting extremism across the Muslim world. But that strategy can backfire: Bin Laden’s critique of Saudi corruption has been taken up by others, and it resonates among many Arabs. And King Salman (who is 80, by the way) does not display the dexterity of his half-brother Abdullah. He’s reached for some of the familiar items in the autocrats’ toolbox: executing dissidents, embarking on foreign wars, and whipping up sectarian rivalries to discredit the demands of Saudi Shiites and boost nationalist fervor. Each of these has grave risks.

The U.S. keeps getting caught flat-footed when purportedly solid countries come apart.
There are a few ways things could go, as Salman’s brittle grip on power begins cracking.

One is a factional struggle within the royal family, with the price of allegiance bid up beyond anyone’s ability to pay in cash. Another is foreign war. With Saudi Arabia and Iran already confronting each other by proxy in Yemen and Syria, escalation is too easy. U.S. decision-makers should bear that danger in mind as they keep pressing for regional solutions to regional problems. A third scenario is insurrection—either a nonviolent uprising or a jihadi insurgency—a result all too predictable given episodes throughout the region in recent years.

The United States keeps getting caught off-guard when purportedly solid countries come apart. To do better this time, U.S. military and intelligence officials should, at the very least, and immediately, run some rigorous planning exercises to test different scenarios and potential actions aimed at reducing codependence and mitigating risk. They should work hard to identify the most likely, and most dangerous, regional outcomes of a Saudi collapse—or the increasingly desperate efforts of its rulers to avoid one. And above all, they should abandon the automatic-pilot thinking that has been guiding U.S. policy to date.

“Hope is not a policy” is a hackneyed phrase. But choosing not to consider alternatives amounts to the same thing.
 
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Cracks have started to appear and the allies of Saudi Arabia now realize that this horse will not make it to the finish line.

Contingency plans will be made and implemented. Ladies and Gentlemen, here we are witnessing history in the making.
 
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Cracks have started to appear and the allies of Saudi Arabia now realize that this horse will not make it to the finish line.

Contingency plans will be made and implemented. Ladies and Gentlemen, here we are witnessing history in the making.
I believe when I see.
 
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Saudi Arabia war on U.S shale,Iran, and Russia has backfired on them. Now they can only hope oil prices go back to over $100 dollars to keep the people happy and Monarch in power.


they should have diversified the economy more away from fossil fuels to something else like the UAE has done.

but at least they saved up hundreds of billions of dollars and had sovereign wealth funds unlike some other OPEC countries.
 
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they should have diversified the economy more away from fossil fuels to something else like the UAE has done.
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Even UAE economy is not diversified in Western sense of the concept. They are basically a giant shopping mall where all the rich people of the region go for shopping. It is not like they are manufacturing the next generation of cell phones or designing the next iteration of sound recognition software. They are a re-exporter of goods to the region, importing and stocking goods for onward shipment to Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Pakistan, India and even Iran.

Such an economic "diversification" is not salable nor sustainable, and definitely not to the scale that would sustain Saudi Arabia with a much larger local population than UAE's.
 
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Even UAE economy is not diversified in Western sense of the concept. They are basically a giant shopping mall where all the rich people of the region go for shopping. It is not like they are manufacturing the next generation of cell phones or designing the next iteration of sound recognition software. They are a re-exporter of goods to the region, importing and stocking goods for onward shipment to Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Pakistan, India and even Iran.

Such an economic "diversification" is not salable nor sustainable, and definitely not to the scale that would sustain Saudi Arabia with a much larger local population than UAE's.
Who told u they not diversify ?which world u live ?i told u many time marasi will remain marasi even whole village dies
 
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Even UAE economy is not diversified in Western sense of the concept. They are basically a giant shopping mall where all the rich people of the region go for shopping. It is not like they are manufacturing the next generation of cell phones or designing the next iteration of sound recognition software. They are a re-exporter of goods to the region, importing and stocking goods for onward shipment to Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Pakistan, India and even Iran.

Such an economic "diversification" is not salable nor sustainable, and definitely not to the scale that would sustain Saudi Arabia with a much larger local population than UAE's.
So is singapore, but good thing is that countries like this cannot afford to have a unstable regional environ. Any conflict in the region will dry up their revenues. They will have to run the country and foreign policy with a sane mind.
 
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Saudi Arabia war on U.S shale,Iran, and Russia has backfired on them. Now they can only hope oil prices go back to over $100 dollars to keep the people happy and Monarch in power.


they should have diversified the economy more away from fossil fuels to something else like the UAE has done.

but at least they saved up hundreds of billions of dollars and had sovereign wealth funds unlike some other OPEC countries.
Saudis wont collaps there r many reasons for that these aytullah kids wake up every moring and thinks they will collaps .
Saudi arabia is tax free economy this first time they double the oil prices at pumps .No tax impose on ppl .
Cost per barrel to saudia is 11$ due to modren tech But aytullah and company its cost only 70 $ PB which is due old tech still living in Raza shah era .oil prices will Hover down 30 to 35$ PB even this is worst era they been through .they have Big cash reserves with 1 trillion only invest US alone .plus they invested heavy in manufacturing research and development.its All hogwash these Aytullah kids fart all the time .
UAE oil reserves gonna finish in next 10 to 15 yrs its long known they switching to tourism and real state with service sector Hub they moving to that direction .A holiday shopping destination for Ppl form europe to south asia .
All GCC states r very good bussiness men not fool hardies they know oil prices fluctuates alot ups and down this boom gonna bust one day .
Now come to Aytullah iran which Economy taters undes the sanctions before nuclear program but after nuclear saction by obama and Bush adminstartions inflations was high with poverty even Iran did not have mony to buy wheat from ukraine so he decided to deal with Pak on barter system .They given up on nuclear weapons now they r in market with plate full war in iraq syria tension with neighbours plus troubles inside home even Iran flood oil in market profit margins for them r very low due to Tech of 70s .Even all wars end today it will be yrs to get iran back on feet .i dont think these wars gonna end soon they gonna foot the russian Bill in syria solution in iraq syria r impossible at the moment plus more and more regional countries r joining these wars turkey moving in very soon Pakistan will too already they moving in with small steps wil increase with time .When pressure will increase on Iran from Pak side then what gonna happen? that is Irans soft belly sunni baloch area with very low deployment from iran i never met any iranian so far my 20 yrs living canada who is favourable to Aytullah and company all praises Shah no one praise Mullah of iran even the new comers .cheers
 
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Yes the GCC countries are so broke that they can only afford to pay Indian workers. :lol:

Iran on the other hand is tremendously wealthy...we know that from how many of the relatives of Ayatollahs now have properties in the GCC states, the planeloads of Iranian women with too much makeup who turn up in places like Dubai to 'work', and of course from the lack of Indians.

Looking forward to seeing lots of Indians moving to Qom and building temples. The Iranians have pantomimes as well. Just imagine combining your myths with theirs. It would be awesome. An amazing fairy story for the ages. :lol:
 
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Saudis wont collaps there r many reasons for that these aytullah kids wake up every moring and thinks they will collaps .
Saudi arabia is tax free economy this first time they double the oil prices at pumps .No tax impose on ppl .
Cost per barrel to saudia is 11$ due to modren tech But aytullah and company its cost only 70 $ PB which is due old tech still living in Raza shah era .oil prices will Hover down 30 to 35$ PB even this is worst era they been through .they have Big cash reserves with 1 trillion only invest US alone .plus they invested heavy in manufacturing research and development.its All hogwash these Aytullah kids fart all the time .
UAE oil reserves gonna finish in next 10 to 15 yrs its long known they switching to tourism and real state with service sector Hub they moving to that direction .A holiday shopping destination for Ppl form europe to south asia .
All GCC states r very good bussiness men not fool hardies they know oil prices fluctuates alot ups and down this boom gonna bust one day .
Now come to Aytullah iran which Economy taters undes the sanctions before nuclear program but after nuclear saction by obama and Bush adminstartions inflations was high with poverty even Iran did not have mony to buy wheat from ukraine so he decided to deal with Pak on barter system .They given up on nuclear weapons now they r in market with plate full war in iraq syria tension with neighbours plus troubles inside home even Iran flood oil in market profit margins for them r very low due to Tech of 70s .Even all wars end today it will be yrs to get iran back on feet .i dont think these wars gonna end soon they gonna foot the russian Bill in syria solution in iraq syria r impossible at the moment plus more and more regional countries r joining these wars turkey moving in very soon Pakistan will too already they moving in with small steps wil increase with time .When pressure will increase on Iran from Pak side then what gonna happen? that is Irans soft belly sunni baloch area with very low deployment from iran i never met any iranian so far my 20 yrs living canada who is favourable to Aytullah and company all praises Shah no one praise Mullah of iran even the new comers .cheers


does money grow on trees in Saudi Arabia?? if oil prices stay depressed below $100 and it's war in Yemen continues to be bog KSA is in trouble


I seriously doubt the current King is as popular as the last one, and the current one has less money to hand out to keep his people happy.


and I find it funny you mention KSA has no TAX!! we'll see how long that lasts.
 
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You should give the good news to Rafsanjani and the rest of the Ayatollahs :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Yes the GCC countries are so broke that they can only afford to pay Indian workers. :lol:

Iran on the other hand is tremendously wealthy...we know that from how many of the relatives of Ayatollahs now have properties in the GCC states, the planeloads of Iranian women with too much makeup who turn up in places like Dubai to 'work', and of course from the lack of Indians.

Looking forward to seeing lots of Indians moving to Qom and building temples. The Iranians have pantomimes as well. Just imagine combining your myths with theirs. It would be awesome. An amazing fairy story for the ages. :lol:
There is No Way iran can come out from these wars syria ,iraq inside troubles poverty ,inflation all of above they have to pay Russia for his services nothing is free in this world .plus more regional players coming in the game like turkey ,Pakistan whom r way stronger than pisrams sultan boods called iran .

does money grow on trees in Saudi Arabia?? if oil prices stay depressed below $100 and it's war in Yemen continues to be bog KSA is in trouble


I seriously doubt the current King is as popular as the last one, and the current one has less money to hand out to keep his people happy.


and I find it funny you mention KSA has no TAX!! we'll see how long that lasts.
Yes that is true they have tax free economy .they r tribel society its not king is papular or not its all about theior tribel system they live in .yemni war i beleive they no choice left to intervene or let it go to Saleh cum houthi shia with theior iranian masters it will take time but good thing about them is they share resources with eachother i meant GCC .plus from day one they start military offence in yemen they buy all Ammo LGB ,to Artillary shells ,small Ammo from pak and eygpt which cost them half of price if they buy from Europe or states .For yemen they have to deal with Saleh which they will down the road leaving Houthi shias alone pushing back where they came from .
I agree for them yemen is war but for iran is war from all fronts iraq ,syria ,kurds tensions with turks and other pkayers like Pak even without saction things r very tough for them they tired already still soft belly not exposed yet .
 
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People from iran are so deluded they are living in the 80's.


Each and every country in GCC knows that they can't rely on oil only and have made contingency plans years ago. GCC will follow the European Union model and start giving bails outs to member if in trouble.

UAE is the shinning example of how GCC countries are stepping away from oil, because Dubai is the best holiday destination in the world right now. they are making billions down there
 
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