Power Projection Capabillities of TAF

[Babur Han]

We dicussed allready in another Thread "Should Turkey need an LHD ?" ! For the Projection of Power in Regions like ME/North Africa, Central and south Asia other Capabillities will aslo become neccesarry for TAF ! IT would interest me what comes in your Mind which Capabillities Turkey should built up to protect it's Interests in these Regions ?

 

[xenon54 out]

We dicussed allready in another Thread "Should Turkey need an LHD ?" ! For the Projection of Power in Regions like ME/North Africa, Central and south Asia other Capabillities will aslo become neccesarry for TAF ! IT would interest me what comes in your Mind which Capabillities Turkey should built up to protect it's Interests in these Regions ?

Well, doing operations abroad which requires air refuelling and being capable of night missions which we are already capable of.
What we lag is long range radars, and stealth fighters (till F-35), not an expert, feel free to correct me.

 

[Babur Han]

Well, doing operations abroad which requires air refuelling and being capable of night missions which we are already capable of.
What we lag is long range radars, and stealth fighters (till F-35), not an expert, feel free to correct me.

* ISR Capabillities(Satelittes, strategic MALE & HALE UAV, AEW&C, Comand and Control Planes)
* Long Range strike Capabillities(Cruise Missiles also deployed on suface Combatant and Submarines, proably Aircraft Carrier ?, LHD's)
* Strategic Air Transport Capabillities(A-400 M but the number of 10 to be ordered its too less !)
* MPA which are faster and have a longer Endurance than CN-235 and ATR-72 and capable of launching ALCM !

 

[xenon54 out]

* ISR Capabillities(Satelittes, strategic MALE & HALE UAV, AEW&C, Comand and Control Planes)
* Long Range strike Capabillities(Cruise Missiles also deployed on suface Combatant and Submarines, proably Aircraft Carrier ?, LHD's)
* Strategic Air Transport Capabillities(A-400 M but the number of 10 to be ordered its too less !)
* MPA which are faster and have a longer Endurance than CN-235 and ATR-72 and capable of launching ALCM !

Looking at your list most thing exist already, only a couple projects left to be finished, i like where Turkish armys future goes.

 

[Neptune]

* ISR Capabillities(Satelittes, strategic MALE & HALE UAV, AEW&C, Comand and Control Planes)

We already have that capability with significance. HALE UAV project is ongoing.

* Long Range strike Capabillities(Cruise Missiles also deployed on suface Combatant and Submarines, proably Aircraft Carrier ?, LHD's)

TF-2000 will be armed with Gezgin LACM and a naval subsurface launched variant of SOM is likely to be under development.
You can't deploy cruise missiles on a CV nor LHD/LHA.

* Strategic Air Transport Capabillities(A-400 M but the number of 10 to be ordered its too less !)

I agree on that. However, it might be a stop gap solution. We can not know what the future may bring to us. After accepting the tenth aircraft, we might sign a deal for additional aircraft or even C-17 upon the operational requirements of TAF. Or we might go for an indigenous project.

* MPA which are faster and have a longer Endurance than CN-235 and ATR-72 and capable of launching ALCM !

Mate, what do you expect from a MPA? CN-235 is the best option for any peninsula country with territorial disputes at sea. How can we expect from a MPA to be armed with ALCM? That's insane! Only MPA aircraft performing better than CN-235 is the P-8 Poseidon of US Navy. We don't need such an aircraft since we don't have thousands of miles of coastlines with two oceans nor an objective to monitor the entire Pacific.

 

[Nefer]

Rail guns

 

[Babur Han]

TF-2000 will be armed with Gezgin LACM and a naval subsurface launched variant of SOM is likely to be under development.
You can't deploy cruise missiles on a CV nor LHD/LHA.

I not meaned Cruise Missiles will be launched from CV or LHD/LHA, but UCAV can be launched and Carrier based Fighter can launch ALCM beside Submarines and Surface Combatant !

Mate, what do you expect from a MPA? CN-235 is the best option for any peninsula country with territorial disputes at sea. How can we expect from a MPA to be armed with ALCM? That's insane! Only MPA aircraft performing better than CN-235 is the P-8 Poseidon of US Navy. We don't need such an aircraft since we don't have thousands of miles of coastlines with two oceans nor an objective to monitor the entire Pacific.

I don't say we need an Aircraft like P-8 Poseidon for the Coastlines to with Terretorial Disputes, but I think for Northwest Africa and arabian Sea it can be usefull !

 

[AUz]

What happened to Turkish TF-X program?

Also, when is Turkey's SOM missile with 2500km range is gonna get deployed?

Any updates, please?

 

[Hakan]

What happened to Turkish TF-X program?

Also, when is Turkey's SOM missile with 2500km range is gonna get deployed?

Any updates, please?

We will see 2500km som soon inshallah same with a decision on the tfx on whether or not to carry out fully with the project.

Tests on longer range soms have already taken place i forgot the achieved range.

 

[Babur Han]

We will see 2500km som soon inshallah same with a decision on the tfx on whether or not to carry out fully with the project.

Tests on longer range soms have already taken place i forgot the achieved range.

SOM is an Air launched Cruise Missile, the CM with 1500 and 2500 km Range will be called "Gezgin" and will be launched by trucks, Surface Ships and Submarines !

 

[Babur Han]

Her in these Pictures I market the geopolitic Intersections which are important or could become important for Turkey to spread it's politic and Economic Influence ! From this Point of View it's important to aquire long Range Strike and Survailance Capabilities in order to Deal with systemtric and asymetric Threats ! It is also neccessry for Turkey to built an Alliance or Cooperate(like GCC) in order to Deal with these Threats and an agressive marketing Strategy for turkish made Weapon Systems !

 

[Babur Han]

TU-16 best reliable design. Dont have problems Like TU22! Subsonic speed reliable and enough for the antiship missions. Nearly 1500 aircrafts were produced. Chinese choice right aircraft.
Turkish Navy and Air Forces, TAI attention please here H-6K with 6 antiship and 3000km combat range real jet destroyer.

Also H-6K can carry air to air missile??

If Turkey global actor in the world, we must have this birds,

Our national Fighter Programm T-FX is in the early development Phase and you want a Bomber ?

The H-6K is based on a outdatet Soviet Design, which the Chinese will replace with the H-18 Bomber in Future ! The Advantage of an Bomber I mentioned in former Posts is the greater Flexibillity in Contradiction to Land and Sea Based Cruise Missile launching Capabillities ! All these launching Capabillities combined will create a seroius Detterent aginst Anyone who threaten turkish Interest who Threaten strategic Interests of Turkey in south Asia and North West Africa !

 

[UkroTurk]

Cheapst and reliable long range attack craft Chinese H-6K. We have also AWACS Boeing 737. 737 May be use strategic bomber like P-8 poseidon?

 

[Babur Han]

Like FB-23 based on T-FX Design !

 

[Babur Han]

Cheapst and reliable long range attack craft Chinese H-6K. We have also AWACS Boeing 737. 737 May be use strategic bomber like P-8 poseidon?

This Concept which show a B-747 equippt with AGM-86 ALCM! If B-737 is considered it lacks penetration Capabillity and Stealth! Turkey is also not located on a big Ocean were we could need a P-8 like Aircraft!