Post supernatural experiences of yours and fallows.

[Ahmet Pasha]

Those of us whonhave suffered at the hands of this evil can only warn people at the top of our voice but most people think of as hardliner extremists and continue to be mureeds of pirs who are doing exactly which you described doing shirk, asking for babies etc etc to gain more favors from evil shayateen.

My father was subjected to black magic and perhaps me too tho i am not v sure about myself but my family was also targetted, so i used to get such dreams . Me and people for, family never cared much abt black magic but when my father got ill and wasnt getting cured then he was told by a buzurg a pious person and he gave Quranic verses recitation my father found healing, Then istarted reading up on what black magic is then i found out little bit about it how its done how ot effcts etc etc.

And how to find protection. Rest whater dieseases whether its black magic or whatever it is , is all through Allahs will and he tests his peoples iman or strenght of faith through various means.

Anyways, so ifound put that when black magicians want t turn a husband or a woman into their partners slaves they ask requestin woman to bring her urine or menstual blood. Then they prepare some concotion with evil words and soells on it and they tell the opwoman to take it back and feed her hsuband. These mblack magic wizards at times ask customers to bring some of the most unimaginable hideous of the things .

Some of them for their higher level amal or lets say a witchcraft session , (what should i say the right word is not coming to my mind right now,) in urdu we call it amal which is sort of a session in which they read their spells and perform stuff to attain some purpose or goal, so for higher level amals they ask for babies blood, or killing a baby and bringing his dead body to the performer of evil magic.

There is also a spell called death spell that is done to make the subject fall sevrely ill or kill them. In this case the magician blows his evil spells on whatever the object of the subject he uses and in such cases that object is buried in graveyards. This is one of the worst spells, in many victims cases, this spell causes kidney diseases and then kidney failure, mostly it causes cancer. Please from this dont assume that everyone who suffers from these diseases suffers due to magic spells. Well no, but in some cases people targeted suffer from this

My uncles son was so badly effected that when this guy used to bathe , the water coming off from his body would turn slightly black. I also personally saw some sign on my father but i wont share it here.

Amomgst us muslims , anyone who perfroms black magic or seeks help thru it are all thrown out of fold of islam until they repent and leave behind all this crap.

But even if u are a nonmuslim. I will strongly advice u against seeking seeking any help thru black magic, cause black mgic is such a sick curse that momentarily it might help the person who gets his task dont thru it but later some years or time later these things start damaging his life. Get ur sister was suffering but iwould suggest u to make prayer to God for help , black magic kight help u today but tomorrow the jinns or evils forces used to help u cud also damage ur family or somehwo it cud come back to haunt ur family.

Also the wizard or the performer of black magic, if he does not leave witchcraft dies extremely painful death.

 

[Ocean]

That's not true at all. Rather mega crap. You must provide a comprehensive evidence or apologise for defaming the women.

Total BS it is and btw azad kashmir guy normally seems very horny when online so i dont take his such foolish statements seriously

Oh Pappy,

You are so innocent---I do not want to believe---.

These pak women---they are so damned aggressive---they would pluck you from the bough---swallow you whole without blinking an eye and you would not know what happened to you---and spit you out.

Not true there are such but from bigger cities like lahore, karachi and we cant say those women make up majority pf pak womans populace. Normally those men fall for such women who have their brains located in their genitals

 

[war&peace]

Total BS it is and btw azad kashmir guy normally seems very horny when online so i dont take his such foolish statements seriously

I have reported because I take a strong offence since this generalisation includes the female members of my family and I know them very well. That's the worst thing he has said and according to sharia a person would be lashed 80 times if he blames a respectable girl for adultery and cannot provide the evidence i.e. eye-witnesses.

Not true there are such but from bigger cities like lahore, karachi and we cant say those women make up majority pf pak womans populace. Normally those men fall for such women who have their brains located in their genitals

Well those kind of women exist in a large numbers in the west and they are known as cougars but in Pakistan, they are less than a 0.0001% of the total female population. So I really detest when someone makes such an unqualified generalisation. All I can say that they are speaking about their families only. I hope they don't get offended.

 

[Ocean]

I have reported because I take a strong offence since this generalisation includes the female members of my family and I know them very well. That's the worst thing he has said and according to sharia a person would be lashed 80 times if he blames a respectable girl for adultery and cannot provide the evidence i.e. eye-witnesses.


Well those kind of women exist in a large numbers in the west and they are known as cougars but in Pakistan, they are less than a 0.0001% of the total female population. So I really detest when someone makes such an unqualified generalisation. All I can say that they are speaking about their families only. I hope they don't get offended.

cougars are older women who chase young men. I wont say cougars in this scenario i will say their women approach their men just like men would approach women and i think rest we know their live ins or one night relationships
He said in the rest of the world men chase women in pakistan , pakistani women chase men , that alone shows how stupid is his comment and that he lives in some other world , atleast not this earth. I mean in west practically every next woman chase their men, and even arab and gcc countries it happens. and then he said pakistani women chase and straight up bang men and after that they ask name etc i mean is that FCUKING SERIOUS?

Statements like mastankhans and azad kashmir come from men who fail to grab pak womens attention and or were rejected by them and hence take out frustration but making such statements.

 

[MastanKhan]

Statements like mastankhans and azad kashmir come from men who fail to grab pak womens attention and or were rejected by them and hence take out frustration but making such statements.

Hi,

That was not an intelligent comment---. If you can talk from your vantage point---why can we not talk from our perch---. You got your experiences---we got ours---.

And the women folks are laughing their heads off at watching two men fight it off for their honor---?

 

[Azadkashmir]

That's not true at all. Rather mega crap. You must provide a comprehensive evidence or apologise for defaming the women.

yeah for you i am going to get isi to make portfolio evidence.

 

[Signalian]

There is also a spell called death spell that is done to make the subject fall sevrely ill or kill them.

Unfortunately, this is correct, Magic can be used to kill a person slowly or instantly. Although life and death is in Allah's hands, its Allah's will whether your life is to be taken by magic or accident or naturally.

As for severely ill, if one possesses that spiritual eye and goes to a hospital or sees a person afflicted with any disease, majority of the cases have a spiritual cause behind them, whether black magic or encounter with a spiritual creature which harmed them. Probably this is why, a few doctors whom i met have a spiritual background and analyse the patient medically and spiritually. Though i'm not from a medical background, some cases also intrigued me, like a young healthy person developed brain tumor and died within a month or two. Especially the cases in which all the medical tests are clear but the patient has symptoms of a certain disease.

The procedure you explained in post and the affected areas of body like kidney are very common. Mostly, its heart and brain , then liver and kidney. The procedure of a spiritual creature entering a human body from certain places like head or feet, making its way to the target part of the body, completing its cycle of certain days there, then resting phase as the disease develops and finally attacking with full force, it may vary case to case but the resulting damage is sometimes irreplaceable.

Its ok if you don't share personal stuff, you don't need to but there is no denying that all such things exist. Since most of us cannot comprehend them so we tend to ignore them and brush them aside as mere myth or fake. Such an attitude still doesn't change reality.

Graveyard itself is a big topic. Most people think that only jinns are found in graveyards, whats ignored is that graveyard is full of spirits and mostly bad ones, those who committed heinous sins in their lifetime. It would be ignorant to think that amils/magicians go to graveyards to get control of jinns only, its the spirits they are after . Jinns have no friendship with a spirit of dead person to reside in a graveyard, jinns have many many other places to reside like mountains, valleys, caves, jungles, deserts etc.

Similarly, so called "dead people" are buried in shrines/tombs/mazar/dargah. But why is it that people go to a shrine at 3am at night but are scared to enter a graveyard at similar timings. The difference is the the spirit itself. People can spend hours sitting at a shrine but can hardly stay 15 minutes at the grave of a relative in a graveyard. From a common man's eye, dead people are buried in both places, but from a spiritual person's eye, the dimensions of both places are very different and varying universes have opened up at both places.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

It was a chilly day....









I got married...









What could be more scary.

 

[Ocean]

Hi,

That was not an intelligent comment---. If you can talk from your vantage point---why can we not talk from our perch---. You got your experiences---we got ours---.

And the women folks are laughing their heads off at watching two men fight it off for their honor---?

Sir ur posts had too many generalizations. As of this part" And the women folks are laughing their heads off at watching two men fight it off for their honor" lagta hai bohat bad guman hain ap khawateen say . Maybe they are not laughing, they cud be feeling good that there are people who are taking up stand against generalizations amde against them

 

[Doctor Strange]

Dont know if this counts or not. Only one supernatural encounter of my life is, I observed whole night constant star movements in the sky, it was Eid e Miladunnabi night 2006/07

 

[Ocean]

Unfortunately, this is correct, Magic can be used to kill a person slowly or instantly. Although life and death is in Allah's hands, its Allah's will whether your life is to be taken by magic or accident or naturally.

As for severely ill, if one possesses that spiritual eye and goes to a hospital or sees a person afflicted with any disease, majority of the cases have a spiritual cause behind them, whether black magic or encounter with a spiritual creature which harmed them. Probably this is why, a few doctors whom i met have a spiritual background and analyse the patient medically and spiritually. Though i'm not from a medical background, some cases also intrigued me, like a young healthy person developed brain tumor and died within a month or two. Especially the cases in which all the medical tests are clear but the patient has symptoms of a certain disease.

The procedure you explained in post and the affected areas of body like kidney are very common. Mostly, its heart and brain , then liver and kidney. The procedure of a spiritual creature entering a human body from certain places like head or feet, making its way to the target part of the body, completing its cycle of certain days there, then resting phase as the disease develops and finally attacking with full force, it may vary case to case but the resulting damage is sometimes irreplaceable.

Its ok if you don't share personal stuff, you don't need to but there is no denying that all such things exist. Since most of us cannot comprehend them so we tend to ignore them and brush them aside as mere myth or fake. Such an attitude still doesn't change reality.

Graveyard itself is a big topic. Most people think that only jinns are found in graveyards, whats ignored is that graveyard is full of spirits and mostly bad ones, those who committed heinous sins in their lifetime. It would be ignorant to think that amils/magicians go to graveyards to get control of jinns only, its the spirits they are after . Jinns have no friendship with a spirit of dead person to reside in a graveyard, jinns have many many other places to reside like mountains, valleys, caves, jungles, deserts etc.

Similarly, so called "dead people" are buried in shrines/tombs/mazar/dargah. But why is it that people go to a shrine at 3am at night but are scared to enter a graveyard at similar timings. The difference is the the spirit itself. People can spend hours sitting at a shrine but can hardly stay 15 minutes at the grave of a relative in a graveyard. From a common man's eye, dead people are buried in both places, but from a spiritual person's eye, the dimensions of both places are very different and varying universes have opened up at both places.

Well i dont believe in shrines etc. in our culture people visit shrines and make duas there and ask please yeh dila dain woh dila dain. Why jot pray to Allah in namaz and straight up ask for help. Anyways, leaving this debate aside for another day, moving on to netx stuff.

People are not scared of visiting shrines because of their beliefs that shirne is a burial place of some pious person and vsisiting his grave will get their prayers fulfilled, its the conditioned thinki and the whole fanfare that goes on there, and huge crowds presence that does not let ppl feel scared. Also its a single grave there unlike many graves in the graveyard.

I dont know about spirits as roohain loittering in gr e yard. Isnt it said in quran that good and bad souls are kept in illiyeen and sijjeen so whynwould human spirits graveyards? And i think its just in ur opinion that people feel scared of visitn ggraveyard n dont stick around mire than 15 minutes. Not true at all , some people even build a grave of close relative within four bludnaries of their own house in the back of lawn or close by. And i dont know anyone amongst my relatives who are scared of visiting graveyard and sitting there for as long as they wish. I know women who even alone visit graveyards. So i think thts the first time i have heard something.

One of the saddest things that hapoen in a country like pakistan is that black magic perfromers often need bones and skulls of humans so they send their clients or students to dig those bones out of graves, so mny times people fond graves desecrated in the morning. , i think now law is a bit strict if someoen is caught digging a grave he can get arrested. Also if anyone notices such suspicious indivduals around graveyard they shud immediately be reported.

One last thing. Soem years back when i used to get signs in dreams ,n iwas experiencing sleep paralysis etc that i described earlier, i also started experiencing a new thing,something ihad never experienced before, at times i would find myself reciting surah falaq, surah naas , surah ikhlaas in my sleep, as in i would be asleep n i would feeling i am reciting somethign then some nminutes later iwould wake up form sleep and i will relaize i am reciting these surahs. Hwta cud be the cause behind this? Any clue

 

[Signalian]

Well i dont believe in shrines etc. in our culture people visit shrines and make duas there and ask please yeh dila dain woh dila dain. Why jot pray to Allah in namaz and straight up ask for help. Anyways, leaving this debate aside for another day, moving on to netx stuff.

People are not scared of visiting shrines because of their beliefs that shirne is a burial place of some pious person and vsisiting his grave will get their prayers fulfilled, its the conditioned thinki and the whole fanfare that goes on there, and huge crowds presence that does not let ppl feel scared. Also its a single grave there unlike many graves in the graveyard.

I dont know about spirits as roohain loittering in gr e yard. Isnt it said in quran that good and bad souls are kept in illiyeen and sijjeen so whynwould human spirits graveyards? And i think its just in ur opinion that people feel scared of visitn ggraveyard n dont stick around mire than 15 minutes. Not true at all , some people even build a grave of close relative within four bludnaries of their own house in the back of lawn or close by. And i dont know anyone amongst my relatives who are scared of visiting graveyard and sitting there for as long as they wish. I know women who even alone visit graveyards. So i think thts the first time i have heard something.

One of the saddest things that hapoen in a country like pakistan is that black magic perfromers often need bones and skulls of humans so they send their clients or students to dig those bones out of graves, so mny times people fond graves desecrated in the morning. , i think now law is a bit strict if someoen is caught digging a grave he can get arrested. Also if anyone notices such suspicious indivduals around graveyard they shud immediately be reported.

One last thing. Soem years back when i used to get signs in dreams ,n iwas experiencing sleep paralysis etc that i described earlier, i also started experiencing a new thing,something ihad never experienced before, at times i would find myself reciting surah falaq, surah naas , surah ikhlaas in my sleep, as in i would be asleep n i would feeling i am reciting somethign then some nminutes later iwould wake up form sleep and i will relaize i am reciting these surahs. Hwta cud be the cause behind this? Any clue

For people who visit shrines and say yeh dila den woh dila den, maybe they get those things that's why they ask from there. Probably they see something over there that we cant see or maybe they are directed to go there by some entity to get what they want and they really do get it.

You got the point that crowd builds up at the shrine, but graveyards don't experience such attention. Pious people can be buried in graveyard too, maybe the one buried in shrine is very different from rest of the dead people that he gets more attention even after he departs to the next world.
I talked of a certain timing (late night) of being hesitant to go to a graveyard in comparison with shrine at same timing, not generally that people are scared all the time.

Yeah why should the Spirits be loitering in the graveyard when they should either be in barzakh or maybe experiencing fire of hell due to sins in the grave. Does it depend what kind of spirits they are or maybe a certain time period is to be spent at certain place before moving to the next destination. Interestingly, what about those spirits who don't even get a grave to their credit like burnt in an air crash with no remains. And the ones in mass graves, all spirits bundled up together, how is justice dealt there.

So if no spirit is loitering in the graveyard, then whats the point of desecrating graves

Is it just about finding skull and bones, Or can it be about burying some writing in an empty grave when the spirit could be in illiyeen and sijjeen Then what good is an empty grave with skull/bones for an amil. If the spirit is in illiyeen and sijjeen then using its skull and bones could have some connection with it.

The experience you had in sleep while resisting being empowered meant you had the will not to give in. You also wrote you would shout out Allah's name.

 

[Ocean]

For people who visit shrines and say yeh dila den woh dila den, maybe they get those things that's why they ask from there. Probably they see something over there that we cant see or maybe they are directed to go there by some entity to get what they want and they really do get it.

You got the point that crowd builds up at the shrine, but graveyards don't experience such attention. Pious people can be buried in graveyard too, maybe the one buried in shrine is very different from rest of the dead people that he gets more attention even after he departs to the next world.
I talked of a certain timing (late night) of being hesitant to go to a graveyard in comparison with shrine at same timing, not generally that people are scared all the time.

Yeah why should the Spirits be loitering in the graveyard when they should either be in barzakh or maybe experiencing fire of hell due to sins in the grave. Does it depend what kind of spirits they are or maybe a certain time period is to be spent at certain place before moving to the next destination. Interestingly, what about those spirits who don't even get a grave to their credit like burnt in an air crash with no remains. And the ones in mass graves, all spirits bundled up together, how is justice dealt there.

So if no spirit is loitering in the graveyard, then whats the point of desecrating graves

Is it just about finding skull and bones, Or can it be about burying some writing in an empty grave when the spirit could be in illiyeen and sijjeen Then what good is an empty grave with skull/bones for an amil. If the spirit is in illiyeen and sijjeen then using its skull and bones could have some connection with it.

They dig out graves to take out bones those bones are used by magician to perform spells, those graves cpuld be of any human no one knows whether he is good or bad. I only this much abt it dont have much knowledge.

And i thought magicians used to burry objects with evil spells on them im graveyard cause they wanted their victim to die fast. That ws just my thought.

Btw there is another spell in which witchcraft performer tries to permanently handicap a victim. He takes afour legged small animal lile rabbits, rats etc, put some spell on it and defo uses some used object of the subject , then break all four legs of that animal and burries it in graveyard. As long as the animal is burried n spell is active the victim,will keep meeting accidents where he will break his legs or arms or back bone etc. yup but if Allah has to save him

The experience you had in sleep while resisting being empowered meant you had the will not to give in. You also wrote you would shout out Allah's name

Thanks for sharing that.

 

[Well.wisher]

My late naani was possessed by demons and the situations she suffered , I'm unable to explain here.
As for me , I used to experience some supernatural activities around me when I used to read quran late night . But I gradually stopped when I took protection of quranic ayahs.

 

[Signalian]

They dig out graves to take out bones those bones are used by magician to perform spells, those graves cpuld be of any human no one knows whether he is good or bad. I only this much abt it dont have much knowledge.

And i thought magicians used to burry objects with evil spells on them im graveyard cause they wanted their victim to die fast. That ws just my thought.

Btw there is another spell in which witchcraft performer tries to permanently handicap a victim. He takes afour legged small animal lile rabbits, rats etc, put some spell on it and defo uses some used object of the subject , then break all four legs of that animal and burries it in graveyard. As long as the animal is burried n spell is active the victim,will keep meeting accidents where he will break his legs or arms or back bone etc. yup but if Allah has to save him

Thanks for sharing that.

It all comes down to damaging ones in magic, you only talk about destruction. How about the neutral ones like teleportation and telepathy.

In teleportation, the amil rests at one place, but he is present at another place. But its not only magicians or amils, its the main form of transport for jinns. The legend of Asif Barkhiya. It could involve cloning too. Cloning of the spirit, the soul. The stronger ones dont need a body to reside in, at the destination point. The weaker ones need a body. Its also seems that teleportation is used by every spiritual being. Dervishes have their own ways too.
Logically it seems, that only a part of spirit leaves the body, because the body also needs energy (spirit) to keep it functioning and alive, though it maybe in a state of sleep.

Cloning itself is a complex topic especially when the number of clones go up in thousands. There is no hunger or sleep for the spirit. A human has one spirit and thats all which is left after he dies and this one spirit is capable of so much. Why am i talking of death again, lol. There is so much which can be done through spirit even when alive. Positive and good things.

Telepathy, you might be knowing that if the name of spiritual creature or spiritual being is taken by someone anywhere in the universe, he gets to know who took it, why it was taken and in what context. Now im not talking about creatures like jinns, but also humans who are spiritual like an amil or a dervish.

And then of course, mind reading like reading intentions and thoughts. The books are filled with such narrations. A mere inclination of whats in the mind is shown on the face but probably much more. Then the history, past of a human being and in some scenarios, possible future. Imagine the reaction when told everything.

The amount of knowledge in spirituality whether used for good or bad is endless. Imagine living a spiritual life and then wanting to go back to science and logics, but then again what if a person lives both, like the dervishes of modern era do. They are educated folk like PHd's, doctors, engineers, scientists, government servants, almost like the dervishes in old times were qualified as Hakeems and scholars.

The difference is huge: help humans or harm humans. Ofcourse Allah helps humans but He can also create means and pathways through someone or something, to help a human.