Post supernatural experiences of yours and fallows.

[war&peace]

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[PakSword]

Spiritual world is very strange. It holds a lot of information and actual super powers. To answer your post, yes
Spirits exist. Spirit as in soul of a person who has left this world.

Spirits have knowledge of most things and the knowledge evolves. The seeking, sharing and spreading of knowledge is common in spiritual world. The knowledge gained in life time is very crucial but it doesnt stop here.

God has knowledge of everything and its up to God with whom He shares knowledge.

But the question is, can you call an spirit at your will?

@DESERT FIGHTER hey man dont soldiers go to derelict empty places do you know any stories of soldier(s) who were posted in a distant empty place and faced a supernatural jin bhoot???? (I've heard many lodgings provided to govt and army officers are often haunted???)
ANYONE WITH ARMY BACKGROUNG SHARE THEIR SUPERNATURAL EXPERIENCES IN FAR AWAY PLACES. THANKS

Pakistan Army se tou jinnat ki bhi lub lub hoti hai..

 

[Signalian]

But the question is, can you call an spirit at your will?

Yes. its possible.

 

[PakSword]

Yes. its possible.

So you are saying that an spirit in Sajiyeen (as mentioned in Quran), can leave this place of extreme torment and come to the caller to answer questions and then go back to the original place to continue with the torment?

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Man there's jinn of smokeless fire, man of dust and angels of noor.

Where did these spirits come from????

Yes. its possible.

NAY.
Rather that is what hadis warns us that the dajjal will claim to do such things i.e calling spirits of dead people etc etc

So you are saying that an spirit in Sajiyeen (as mentioned in Quran), can leave this place of extreme torment and come to the caller to answer questions and then go back to the original place to continue with the torment?

 

[Signalian]

So you are saying that an spirit in Sajiyeen (as mentioned in Quran), can leave this place of extreme torment and come to the caller to answer questions and then go back to the original place to continue with the torment?

why would somebody create a problem for himself by calling a spirit in torment, which would be an evil or sinner spirit.

Man there's jinn of smokeless fire, man of dust and angels of noor.

Where did these spirits come from????

spirit = rooh/soul.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Bro thats where the part of sufiism I fear comes in. The rooh of a person is taken to sijjiyeen and illiyeeen as pointed out by @PakSword. We are muslims and this is not ouija board.

If you thinkin about super duper naik rooh of maulana jalaludin rumi or ghous e azam(whatever that is) to appear in front of you that is very dangerous. Do keep in mind these jinns or rooh as you imagine. Can change their shapes they have power given to them by Allah azzawajal to shapeshift.

Hence when dajjal will make claim of letting you meet your dead loved ones it will infact jinns(rooh/spirit) as you call them, changing their appearance to fool the person to fall into the trap of dajjal.

why would somebody create a problem for himself by calling a spirit in torment, which would be an evil or sinner spirit.


spirit = rooh/soul.

 

[PakSword]

why would somebody create a problem for himself by calling a spirit in torment, which would be an evil or sinner spirit.

And do not say about those who are killed in the way of Allah, "They are dead." Rather, they are alive, but you perceive [it] not. Al-Baqara (154)

“It was narrated from Anas bin Malik that the Prophet (s.a.w) said: "There is no soul that dies, having a good (reward) with Allah, that would like to return to this world, or to have this world and everything in it, except the martyr, who wishes that he could come back to this world and be killed (again), because of what he sees of the virtue of martyrdom." (Muslim Hadith No: 4867).


Now do you think good spirits will come to answer questions.. and that too on the invitation of Non-Muslims?

 

[Signalian]

And do not say about those who are killed in the way of Allah, "They are dead." Rather, they are alive, but you perceive [it] not. Al-Baqara (154)

“It was narrated from Anas bin Malik that the Prophet (s.a.w) said: "There is no soul that dies, having a good (reward) with Allah, that would like to return to this world, or to have this world and everything in it, except the martyr, who wishes that he could come back to this world and be killed (again), because of what he sees of the virtue of martyrdom." (Muslim Hadith No: 4867).


Now do you think good spirits will come to answer questions.. and that too on the invitation of Non-Muslims?

Calling spirits to answer questions is an absurd idea.

Bro thats where the part of sufiism I fear comes in. The rooh of a person is taken to sijjiyeen and illiyeeen as pointed out by @PakSword. We are muslims and this is not ouija board.

If you thinkin about super duper naik rooh of maulana jalaludin rumi or ghous e azam(whatever that is) to appear in front of you that is very dangerous. Do keep in mind these jinns or rooh as you imagine. Can change their shapes they have power given to them by Allah azzawajal to shapeshift.

Hence when dajjal will make claim of letting you meet your dead loved ones it will infact jinns(rooh/spirit) as you call them, changing their appearance to fool the person to fall into the trap of dajjal.

yes Sir, as you say

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Here you say its not okay.

Calling spirits to answer questions is an absurd idea.

But in previous ones you said they're okay.
Whats up with this tho???

 

[PakSword]

Calling spirits to answer questions is an absurd idea.

You can't call any spirit.. whether good or bad.. Good ones are living in Aliyyeen, and bad ones are "arrested" in Sajiyyeen..

The alliyyeen ones are in very good shape.. enjoying their time there.. sajiyyeen ones? well, their grave has been turned into one of the pits of the hell..

There is a hadith (I am not quoting you the exact words).. Allah asks the Shuhada about what they want... and they respond that they want to go back and get martyrdom again.. Allah asks it more than one time.. and they answer the same.. and then Allah says it means they don't want anything..

Coming back of the spirits in our dimension for whatever purpose is not possible... what the people see on oaija board is Evil Jinn.. (Oaija is the name of an evil Jinn by the way.. and some say that he is a King of Jinns) He plays with the callers.. And when they call the jinn, he has to submit to the caller.. in return, they have to submit to the jinn as well.. Ask any Oaija practitioner if he can just break the session without submitting to the demand of the called "spirit" (which is in fact a jinn).. Those who have done it without the permission (broken the session), they have lost their senses.. and faced different unreal world the whole life..

My request.. whoever in Muslims (or Non-Muslims) you see who wants to indulge in this practice, you should make him aware of the consequences..

 

[Signalian]

Here you say its not okay.


But in previous ones you said they're okay.
Whats up with this tho???

Yar, He is asking to call spirit to answer questions.

Why would somebody need to call a spirit to answer questions. The point is to call somebody just to answer questions.

If a certain spirit means something to you and you want to benefit it, give khatam e paak, recite koran for that spirit, to make it stronger. Visit its grave or shrine, recite fateha. Make dua for it. If that spirit is in torment, you are helping in your way to make its torment lighter or end its torment if God willing. A day might come that the spirit comes and visits you when you are reciting koran for it.

You mentioned names of pious spirits in your previous posts. Some people are lucky enough that those pious spirits may visit them, probably those people who really love them.

You can't call any spirit.. whether good or bad.. Good ones are living in Aliyyeen, and bad ones are "arrested" in Sajiyyeen..

The alliyyeen ones are in very good shape.. enjoying their time there.. sajiyyeen ones? well, their grave has been turned into one of the pits of the hell..

There is a hadith (I am not quoting you the exact words).. Allah asks the Shuhada about what they want... and they respond that they want to go back and get martyrdom again.. Allah asks it more than one time.. and they answer the same.. and then Allah says it means they don't want anything..

Coming back of the spirits in our dimension for whatever purpose is not possible... what the people see on oaija board is Evil Jinn.. (Oaija is the name of an evil Jinn by the way.. and some say that he is a King of Jinns) He plays with the callers.. And when they call the jinn, he has to submit to the caller.. in return, they have to submit to the jinn as well.. Ask any Oaija practitioner if he can just break the session without submitting to the demand of the called "spirit" (which is in fact a jinn).. Those who have done it without the permission (broken the session), they have lost their senses.. and faced different unreal world the whole life..

My request.. whoever in Muslims (or Non-Muslims) you see who wants to indulge in this practice, you should make him aware of the consequences..

ok. as you say.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Yaar 40% of what u just said makes sense. The remianing 60% is borderline bida'a.

Khair its ur school of thought. Cheers.

Yar, He is asking to call spirit to answer questions.

Why would somebody need to call a spirit to answer questions. The point is to call somebody just to answer questions.

If a certain spirit means something to you and you want to benefit it, give khatam e paak, recite koran for that spirit, to make it stronger. Visit its grave or shrine, recite fateha. Make dua for it. If that spirit is in torment, you are helping in your way to make its torment lighter or end its torment if God willing. A day might come that the spirit comes and visits you when you are reciting koran for it.

You mentioned names of pious spirits in your previous posts. Some people are lucky enough that those pious spirits may visit them, probably those people who really love them.


ok. as you say.

 

[Signalian]

Yaar 40% of what u just said makes sense. The remianing 60% is borderline bida'a.

Khair its ur school of thought. Cheers.

Thank you thats why im refraining from opening the pandora's box.

 

[PakSword]

ok. as you say.

I am not saying anything by myself bro.. you have to understand this.. as a Muslim, we have the responsibility to share the knowledge.. if you have something that says that good spirits can be called at our will, please share it.. It may benefit us and increase our knowledge..

I hope you are not taking any of my posts negative..