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A weak foundation in building sophisticated machinery and a lack of innovation are major obstacles for the People’s Liberation Army in upgrading its latest domestically produced jet fighters, military experts say.

Major General Zhu Heping – vice-president of the Air Force Command Academy and the grandson of the father of the Red Army, Zhu De – talked about the constraints facing the PLA in an interview with the South China Morning Post.

He said one key hindrance was the state of the country’s machinery industry, even though the PLA had been upgrading to a more hi-tech force for a decade. Another problem was the lack of innovation in the industry sector.

Zhu said those 10 years, under the rule of former president Hu Jintao and former premier Wen Jiabao, had seen crucial gains made in military modernisation.

“Taking the air force as an example, we managed to take a huge step forward by replacing second-generation jet fighters with third-generation ones as the main force,” he said.

Zhu said big strides had been made in developing anti-aircraft weapons and giving information technology a bigger role.

“More importantly, we saw an enormous improvement in the quality of our pilots,” he said. “At present you can hardly find an officer who does not hold a bachelor’s degree or higher.”

More importantly, we saw an enormous improvement in the quality of our pilots. At present you can hardly find an officer who does not hold a bachelor’s degree or higher
However, Zhu said, Chinese industry had not progressed quite so rapidly. “To be honest, we’ve overlooked the problem of how difficult, complicated and time-consuming it is for us to upgrade the machinery industry in our country,” he said.

Zhu cited as an example the fact that the air force had to buy foreign engines for home-made fighter jets.

Before President Xi Jinping went to Russia last month on his maiden overseas visit as a head of state, Beijing and Moscow signed an agreement that will see China buy 24 Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets from Russia – with analysts estimating the deal to cost around US$1.56 billion.

China can make most of the parts for fourth-generation fighter jets, but falls down when it comes to the likes of the Su-35′s sophisticated 117S engines.

Hong Kong-based military commentator Ma Dingsheng said having the right materials for the alloy and the proper smelting technique were preconditions for manufacturing high-quality engines – for aircraft, tanks or warships.

“Beijing could spend hundreds of millions of dollars to buy the aircraft, dissect them and pore over the advanced engines inside and out before trying to copy their design,” he said.

“But they are doomed to fail to overcome the predicament presented by the lack of the materials and techniques required to make them.”

He said it would be hard to make significant progress in machinery production capabilities in a decade or two.

“In my opinion, it’s too early to talk about innovation when China is still left in the dust by its Russian or Western counterparts in this respect,” Ma said.

Veteran Macau-based PLA watcher Antony Wong Dong said innovative ideas could play a key role in technological advancement but he was not optimistic.

“Independent thinking is the last thing the current education system under the [Communist] party’s leadership intends to encourage or highlight,” Wong said. “As a matter of fact, this kind of education has long been an obstacle for every single kind of domestic innovation and made things even worse.”

Wong said a country’s level of advancement in producing sophisticated engines was a perfect yardstick for judging its general level of industrialisation.

“How can one expect the fruits of self-innovation when everybody’s mindset is focused on anything but independent thinking in the country? Up to this moment, submission is still the overriding priority for millions of mainland students from kindergartens to universities,” Wong said.

The PLA’s Zhu said he hoped new Premier Li Keqiang could make big strides in encouraging domestic innovation.

PLAAF general: Poor industrial foundation, lack of innovation obstructing development of fighters | idrw.org
 
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All in good time my Indian comrade. We Chinese arent celebrating yet, the goal is still in our sights.
 
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My Utmost Respect to him . Self Criticism is perhaps the highest of qualities a Man can attain . Meanwhile boasting and chest thumping on future plans can be easily found amongst masses on on the both side of Himalayas ( At one side more than other ) .
 
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i dont think PRC appreciates or encourages self criticism. this man might get into trouble
 
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welcome, he learns that “The squeaking wheel gets the oil”.
 
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It's the bloody idleness of Asians. Same ******* problem in DRDO. Unless we self assess Russians, Americans will play

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with our national security.
 
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Those whose words are humble while they increase war preparations are going to advance.

Sun Tzu.......
 
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Of course there will be a lack of innovation in a society that is still catching up. This only becomes an issue when you have caught up and then cannot innovate to take things to the next level.

Anyway it is good to see senior figures openly stating where China could improve as this is the only way to get these things changed for the better.
 
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Finally a PLAAF general tell the truth.:hitwall:
 
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Weird, Zhu never called or implied anything to be "poor" or "obstructing" and at best only pointed out where the weakest part of the chain remains (there will always be one no matter how good you are) but not that it in a dire state or even a hindrance and secondly only that the Chinese underestimated the effort it takes to reach the high goals they set them self, not that it was all for naught and nothing has been achieved yet,like the jealous Indians would love to believe.
Other than that he just praised and mentioned the heavy progress and development made.

This a constructive review of the progress that has been made and analysis of the discrepancies in the entire progress structure, not plain criticism or even a complaint.

While the major part of the so called "criticism" in this piece of junk called article, is just the usual ever repeated baseless slander and anti Chinese propaganda but unrelated to Zhu, desperately spun between the lines, in attempt to give certain nations usual masturbation material some credibility under the guise of a "Chinese PLAAF general interview".
 
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Weird, Zhu never called or implied anything to be "poor" or "obstructing" and at best only pointed out where the weakest part of the chain remains (there will always be one no matter how good you are) but not that it in a dire state or even a hindrance and secondly only that the Chinese underestimated the effort it takes to reach the high goals they set them self, not that it was all for naught and nothing has been achieved yet,like the jealous Indians would love to believe.
Other than that he just praised and mentioned the heavy progress and development made.

This a constructive review of the progress that has been made and analysis of the discrepancies in the entire progress structure, not plain criticism or even a complaint.

While the major part of the so called "criticism" in this piece of junk called article, is just the usual ever repeated baseless slander and anti Chinese propaganda but unrelated to Zhu, desperately spun between the lines, in attempt to give certain nations usual masturbation material some credibility under the guise of a "Chinese PLAAF general interview".


It seems the General is frustrated that China is not advanced at engines as it is in other areas like airframes, missiles, radars and ship design.

This is only to be expected as jet turbofans, along with SSNs, are the most difficult technologies to master and China is still trying to catch up in major areas. It will get there but will take another couple of decades if all goes according to plan.

China can still be content that it can now make gas turbines in the newer Type-052C and Type-052D destroyers and has already started equipping J-11B fighters with it's own engines.

There are no real short-cuts when it comes to engines and the Chinese will have to go through the same trial and error journey that the US, Europeans and Russians went through.
 
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This is what differentiates China from India。

China recognizes its weak points and tries to rectify the loose links in the shortest time possible。

India has nothing yet still boasts as if it is THE one。:azn:
 
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This is what differentiates China from India。

China recognizes its weak points and tries to rectify the loose links in the shortest time possible。

India has nothing yet still boasts as if it is THE one。:azn:

this is called cover up anyway..show me a single indian claiming that india is perfect and have all the technology in the world.but its other way round that ur members boast that china is already a super power and can counter even u.s or any other country as of today in the other thread.grow up..a chinese general says that china is not doing satisfactorily and typical chinese are dragging india in between..
 
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this is called cover up anyway..show me a single indian claiming that india is perfect and have all the technology in the world.but its other way round that ur members boast that china is already a super power and can counter even u.s or any other country as of today in the other thread.grow up..a chinese general says that china is not doing satisfactorily and typical chinese are dragging india in between..

Really dude? You are really thick skinned. Take a mirror and look inside and you still can tell lies. :lol:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...es-superior-chinese-quality-says-experts.html
 
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