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PK maybe abandon FC31 and develop JF20 single-shot stealth fighter with Chengdu

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Interesting, so they are working on two variants which is JF-17.6 which might be a new stealthy version of the JF-17 while JF-20 seems a new design while keeping in the goodies that come from the design structure of the JF-17.
Might be interesting, not to forget, we might not restrict ourselves to these two only but also a participant in the Turk stealth fighter project.
Having multiple stealth platforms in the inventory is really what's gonna help as it will be harder for the enemy to pre plan a light plan based on the weaknesses of a single platform.
 
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If this is true it's this could be huge just imagine Pakistan producing even parts of a 5th gen jet the possibilities are endless
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But the question is which emgine will they use?
 
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google transtor (too much too lazy:))
Pakistani Ministry of Planning and Development officials confirmed that the project will expand China-Pakistan cooperation on JF-17 fighters. This is likely to indicate that Pakistan has chosen chengdu as a partner in the AZM project. The new generation of stealth fighters will be the legendary JF-17 stealth version, not Shenyang FC-31 "鹘鹰" .
In fact, light-weight stealth fighter aircraft is meaningless and impossible.
 
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In fact, light-weight stealth fighter aircraft is meaningless and impossible.

Hmm this is very smart thinking jf 17 thunder already is very less observed on radar due to very small rcs with stealth tech it can be on par with western stealth rcs... But i hope pakistan and china engineers don't leak out anymore information...these were supposed to be secret... We are supposed to wait till india announces 5th gen stealth aircraft then we can reveal ours till then work on it must go in low profile in secret.
 
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google transtor (too much too lazy:))
Pakistani Ministry of Planning and Development officials confirmed that the project will expand China-Pakistan cooperation on JF-17 fighters. This is likely to indicate that Pakistan has chosen chengdu as a partner in the AZM project. The new generation of stealth fighters will be the legendary JF-17 stealth version, not Shenyang FC-31 "鹘鹰" .
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The network accidentally exposed the model of three single-head stealth fighters, one of which was named JF-17.6, one could not see the sideboard number of the cockpit, and the last one was JF-20. From the appearance, the JF-17.6 and the unnamed models belong to the direct stealth improvement of the JF-17 fighter, retaining the basic aerodynamic layout of the JF-17, such as the DSI without the boundary layer air inlet, Gothic The pointed arch has a large side strip, but the side of the front fuselage adds a hidden ridgeline, and the rear fuselage is changed from a single vertical tail to a cambered double tail. JF-17.6 uses a belly-mounted semi-buried bomb and a stealth conformal weapon pod on the weapon mount. The unnamed model has a new built-in bomb bay on the belly, which is obviously more perfect in stealth design. However, it will adversely affect the flight of the aircraft due to the occupation of the internal oil space.
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The JF-20's body shape has been completely redesigned, not only the nose radome is sharper, the cockpit cover is more integrated into the front fuselage, the transition between the lower surface of the fuselage and the wing is smoother, and JF-17 is also eliminated. The pointed arch is large. Like the unrecognized model, the JF-20 has a large bomb bay on the belly. This machine is obviously the best high-end solution in stealth performance of the three schemes. Of course, this means that the development cost is the highest.
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The reason why the Pakistan Air Force did not focus on the spot-based FC-31, and finally chose to fly to develop a single-engine stealth fighter based on JF-17. The main reason is the high procurement and maintenance cost of the dual-engine fighter. Take air power in a certain area as an example. In 2009, the cost per hour of F-16A/B flight was $4,900, and the cost of flying F-CK-1A/B fighters per hour was as high as $7,700. It can be seen. The Pakistani Air Force with limited military spending has a long history of operating single-engine fighters, and its active main fighters Mirage III/5, J-7, JF-17, and F-16 are all single-engine, so they continue to be used in the AZM project. The single shot design is also understandable.
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In fact, light-weight stealth fighter aircraft is meaningless and impossible.
That is true if u want to bomb an enemy nations industrial based.. But in pakistan air forces case. Lightweight stealth aircraft gived ability to take out s400 radars or launchers easily, with PL 21 400 km range those would be easy missions especially with stealth aircraft.

Not only s400 but stealthy jf 17 can take out aerial targets like rafale and f-16s without getting exposed.. Lastly light Weight stealth jf 17 with just 4 missiles in the internal bay or a single babur class cruise missile can launch 1 tactical nuke per aircraft onto enemy armored colums.

Pakistan just needs to defend and destroy intruders not wipe put all indian industral bases.... If pakistan can achieve this then thats all we need.


However these were just dummy models used as demonstrators to paf i dont think paf selected jf 17 stealth..
 
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In fact, light-weight stealth fighter aircraft is meaningless and impossible.
You have a very good point.
A sizable internal weapons bay is paramount for a real fifth gen fighter.
And goodbye super cruise.
 
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That is true if u want to bomb an enemy nations industrial based.. But in pakistan air forces case. Lightweight stealth aircraft gived ability to take out s400 radars or launchers easily, with PL 21 400 km range those would be easy missions especially with stealth aircraft.

Not only s400 but stealthy jf 17 can take out aerial targets like rafale and f-16s without getting exposed.. Lastly light Weight stealth jf 17 with just 4 missiles in the internal bay or a single babur class cruise missile can launch 1 tactical nuke per aircraft onto enemy armored colums.

Pakistan just needs to defend and destroy intruders not wipe put all indian industral bases.... If pakistan can achieve this then thats all we need.


However these were just dummy models used as demonstrators to paf i dont think paf selected jf 17 stealth..
Can you tell me which countries are developing lightweight stealth fighters?
And how can the lightweight fighter take enough missiles and bombs inside?
You must know that F-35 is close to a heavy-weight fighter aircraft.
 
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Pretty sure those particular pics were identified as fan based models with no basis in reality.

Not to say a single engined stealth project isn't in the works.
 
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google transtor (too much too lazy:))
Pakistani Ministry of Planning and Development officials confirmed that the project will expand China-Pakistan cooperation on JF-17 fighters. This is likely to indicate that Pakistan has chosen chengdu as a partner in the AZM project. The new generation of stealth fighters will be the legendary JF-17 stealth version, not Shenyang FC-31 "鹘鹰" .
g_9a-hqwsysz0349886.jpg

The network accidentally exposed the model of three single-head stealth fighters, one of which was named JF-17.6, one could not see the sideboard number of the cockpit, and the last one was JF-20. From the appearance, the JF-17.6 and the unnamed models belong to the direct stealth improvement of the JF-17 fighter, retaining the basic aerodynamic layout of the JF-17, such as the DSI without the boundary layer air inlet, Gothic The pointed arch has a large side strip, but the side of the front fuselage adds a hidden ridgeline, and the rear fuselage is changed from a single vertical tail to a cambered double tail. JF-17.6 uses a belly-mounted semi-buried bomb and a stealth conformal weapon pod on the weapon mount. The unnamed model has a new built-in bomb bay on the belly, which is obviously more perfect in stealth design. However, it will adversely affect the flight of the aircraft due to the occupation of the internal oil space.
OEWu-hqwsysz0349941.jpg

The JF-20's body shape has been completely redesigned, not only the nose radome is sharper, the cockpit cover is more integrated into the front fuselage, the transition between the lower surface of the fuselage and the wing is smoother, and JF-17 is also eliminated. The pointed arch is large. Like the unrecognized model, the JF-20 has a large bomb bay on the belly. This machine is obviously the best high-end solution in stealth performance of the three schemes. Of course, this means that the development cost is the highest.
8jPv-hqwsysz0350056.jpg

The reason why the Pakistan Air Force did not focus on the spot-based FC-31, and finally chose to fly to develop a single-engine stealth fighter based on JF-17. The main reason is the high procurement and maintenance cost of the dual-engine fighter. Take air power in a certain area as an example. In 2009, the cost per hour of F-16A/B flight was $4,900, and the cost of flying F-CK-1A/B fighters per hour was as high as $7,700. It can be seen. The Pakistani Air Force with limited military spending has a long history of operating single-engine fighters, and its active main fighters Mirage III/5, J-7, JF-17, and F-16 are all single-engine, so they continue to be used in the AZM project. The single shot design is also understandable.

If it's design jointly then how it's indigenous development as claim by many members?
 
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Hi,

This news is plausible---. A single engine 5th gen aircraft based pretty much on the design of the J31 and the F35.

The only real issue was the engine---and as that has been resolved---the rest is a formality now---.
Sir God forbid this persistent insistence of paf on a lightweight single engine fighter may be its undoing.
 
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Can you tell me which countries are developing lightweight stealth fighters?
And how can the lightweight fighter take enough missiles and bombs inside?
You must know that F-35 is close to a heavy-weight fighter aircraft.

Pakistan would be the first country and just 4 missiles would be enough... As i said this light weight fighter would have a stealth interceptor and precision strike role to attack high value targets. It doesn't need more than 4 missiles.. For that role.

I think pakistan airforce wants jf 17 stealth as an stealth interceptor not ground attack fighter like f-35 or j-20..

I might be wrong. Time will tell.
 
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Pakistan would be the first country and just 4 missiles would be enough... As i said this light weight fighter would have a stealth interceptor and precision strike role to attack high value targets. It doesn't need more than 4 missiles.. For that role.

I think pakistan airforce wants jf 17 stealth as an stealth interceptor not ground attack fighter like f-35 or j-20..

I might be wrong. Time will tell.
Sir four missiles carried internally by that size and type of aircraft?
 
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