Pilot Dies in Fighter Jet Crash at Italian Airshow

[Code_Geass]

An Italian Eurofighter Typhoon jet crashed during an airshow in the central Italian region of Lazio on Sunday, killing its pilot, local media reports.

ROME (Sputnik) - The tragedy took place near the town of Terracina and resulted in the suspension of the airshow, the Italian Il Corriere della Sera newspaper reported. According to eyewitnesses, the jet slammed into the water while performing a vertical loop.


The body of 36-year-old pilot Captain Gabriele Orlandi was found and retrieved about one and a half hours after the deadly crash.

https://twitter.com/x/status/911998935505543168

 

[Gomig-21]

Just saw the tweet to this, awful! RIP.
Looks like the obvious miscalculation of altitude for a loop, or just didn't pull up hard enough.

 

[Goenitz]

But why miscalculation? doesn't that has thrust vectoring?
so awful...

 

[Gomig-21]

Last time I remember something similar to this happening was in 2003 with the USAF Thunderbirds. Pilot ejected from this one though and survived. I think they found out later that either he or whomever didn't reset the altimeter for ground level in relation to sea level for the airport (or something to that effect maybe someone else can explain it better) and so he thought he had more altitude when he tried to perform this Split-S/loop on takeoff.

But why miscalculation? doesn't that has thrust vectoring?
so awful...

I'm only speculating, but I remember a retired pilot talking about these things on another forum and mentioning that besides the obvious technical failures, typically these really bad accidents are a result of "improvising" or doing maneuvers beyond the script. Most aircraft performing in a show will have a very tight set of maneuvers to follow that they have rehearsed many times before, exactly for this reason. Also to have a specific repertoire for the show. So it's usually a very bad idea to go off script and try a very dangerous maneuver.

 

[Goenitz]

reset the altimeter for ground level in relation to sea level

that can be if air base is not near to shore... they have correction factor but lest see the reports.

very tight set of maneuvers to follow

yeah, thast why I asked that they have rehearsed and follow time in second to perform each set of maneuvering,..

 

[Vortex]

RIP.

 

[Gomig-21]

that can be if air base is not near to shore...

That's a good point. You would think that with all the technology in these super machines nowadays, this altitude setting should be something the aircraft's sensors can pick up and the software automatically sets it. Shouldn't be a manual thing anymore I would think.

 

[Goenitz]

That's a good point. You would think that with all the technology in these super machines nowadays, this altitude setting should be something the aircraft's sensors can pick up and the software automatically sets it. Shouldn't be a manual thing anymore I would think.

may be... but I have never saw a jet in my life.. so whta I hv said was based on education/lectures from my university days in 2010.. it was very basic

 

[Jugger]

RIP!
Sad incident.

 

[war&peace]

Sad. RIP.
The one who played in the skies, failed on the ground. It is apparent from the footage that he had no idea of where the ground/water was. Perhaps the instruments fooled him or he forgot to correct the altimeter for his new location...really an achilles heals of 4th gen. A/C.
I think this will not be the case with the 5th gen. A/C where computer and modern avionics play more significant role in flying the bird.

 

[Mrc]

RIP

 

[The SC]

Just saw the tweet to this, awful! RIP.
Looks like the obvious miscalculation of altitude for a loop, or just didn't pull up hard enough.

A Saudi typhoon has also crashed in Yemen in an apparently safe zone a few days ago killing its pilot.. he hit a Mountain! did you read about it?

That's a good point. You would think that with all the technology in these super machines nowadays, this altitude setting should be something the aircraft's sensors can pick up and the software automatically sets it. Shouldn't be a manual thing anymore I would think.

There is a new system to correct that.. it was implemented on the US F-16s..it can save the plane from hitting the ground, even if the pilot loses consciousness..

 

[Gomig-21]

A Saudi typhoon has also crashed in Yemen in an apparently safe zone a few days ago killing its pilot.. he hit a Mountain! did you read about it?

I did, bro very sad you hate to hear these things. I don't think anyone opened a thread. Did they release any details yet?

There is a new system to correct that.. it was implemented on the US F-16s..it can save the plane from hitting the ground, even if the pilot loses consciousness..

Yep, I believe the Auto-GCAS (Automatic Ground Collision Avoidance System) has been in the most US jets for a while if I'm not mistaken. Even in Russian jets and it just beeps and repeats "warning" when the sensors sense you're about to plant the aircraft into the ground. I believe the same systems are in civilian airliners as well.

The PARS (Pilot Activated Recovery System) is the one that senses the pilot is in a state of loss of consciousness and the on-board computer automatically takes control and levels the aircraft until he wakes up. That's been in the F/A-18 for a while now as far as I know and I think you're right, it's been somewhat recently installed in maybe older F-16s? But pilots going in G-Lock is probably the worst thing since when they wake up from that, they still have no idea where they are or what's going on. That's much worst than passing out.

But as far as this incident, there's obviously no time for the aircraft to react when performing at such a low altitude. Which BTW, might very well be the case with what happened to this unfortunate Italian pilot. He was pulling negative G's before he went into the loop and suddenly he's into positive G's trying to pull up. That's usually not good for the blood flow to the brain. He might've lost consciousness before he hit the water but that usually doesn't happen to well trained pilots from any airforce flying jets like the EFT.

BTW, the Russians when performing all their acrobatics turn off the G-limiter on their Sukhois so that the aircraft can nose up and cobra and all that stuff. Otherwise the computer won't allow them to put it into such high G maneuvers or ones that could cause a stall.

 

[The SC]

I did, bro very sad you hate to hear these things. I don't think anyone opened a thread. Did they release any details yet?

It was sad indeed. that is why..
No other official details than It was a collision with a mountain, and that the pilot was killed.. but some argue that it was about 20km from a Houthi controlled area..

Yep, I believe the Auto-GCAS (Automatic Ground Collision Avoidance System) has been in the most US jets for a while if I'm not mistaken. Even in Russian jets and it just beeps and repeats "warning" when the sensors sense you're about to plant the aircraft into the ground. I believe the same systems are in civilian airliners as well.

The PARS (Pilot Activated Recovery System) is the one that senses the pilot is in a state of loss of consciousness and the on-board computer automatically takes control and levels the aircraft until he wakes up. That's been in the F/A-18 for a while now as far as I know and I think you're right, it's been somewhat recently installed in maybe older F-16s? But pilots going in G-Lock is probably the worst thing since when they wake up from that, they still have no idea where they are or what's going on. That's much worst than passing out.

But as far as this incident, there's obviously no time for the aircraft to react when performing at such a low altitude. Which BTW, might very well be the case with what happened to this unfortunate Italian pilot. He was pulling negative G's before he went into the loop and suddenly he's into positive G's trying to pull up. That's usually not good for the blood flow to the brain. He might've lost consciousness before he hit the water but that usually doesn't happen to well trained pilots from any airforce flying jets like the EFT.

BTW, the Russians when performing all their acrobatics turn off the G-limiter on their Sukhois so that the aircraft can nose up and cobra and all that stuff. Otherwise the computer won't allow them to put it into such high G maneuvers or ones that could cause a stall.

Yes that what I was talking about:

2015

NASA’s New Ground-Collision Avoidance System Integrated into USAF’s F-16s

NASA has recently released a new software, known as the Automatic Ground-Collision Avoidance System (Auto-GCAS), that the Air Force will be implementing onto their fleet of F-16 fighter jets. Auto-GCAS was developed with the cooperation of a number of private and government agencies, including: the Office of the Undersecretary for Personnel and Readiness, the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL), NASA’s Armstrong Flight Research Center, the Air Force Test Center (AFTC), and Lockheed Martin.

Ground collisions, or controlled flight into terrain (CFIT) accidents, are one of the most common reasons for fatalities (responsible for approximately 100 deaths annually in the United States) for both civil and military flights. CFIT accidents account for 26% of aircraft losses and 75% of fatalities for F-16 aircraft. This new technology will modify the aircraft’s digital flight-controls, data-transfer equipment, and modified mission computer software to relay information about time until impact and trigger an automatic response (typically an abrupt roll-to-upright then a 5g pull) to avoid a crash. The system gauges digital terrain elevation data (DTED) to obtain a profile of the terrain and measurements of the trajectory of the aircraft to execute an automated evasive recovery maneuver unless the pilot overrides the command.

https://www.asap-nsnparts.us/blog/n...avoidance-system-integrated-into-usafs-f-16s/

 

[Ultima Thule]

But why miscalculation? doesn't that has thrust vectoring?
so awful...

Current EF-2000 don't have TVC engine